If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. |
|
|
|
Thread Tools | Rate Thread | Display Modes |
#16
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
In alt.windows7.general Shadow wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:10:42 -0500, Yousuf Khan wrote: On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote: Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that? It defrags, but does not optimize, which is why there are so many third party defraggers out there. http://web.archive.org/web/201406291...fragger .html []'s Archive? What happened to http://mydefrag.com/? -- Quote of the Week: "I got this aunt... Carpenter ant." --Girl and Crow Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.home.dhs.org (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \ Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ / Please nuke ANT if replying by e-mail privately. If credit- ( ) ing, then please kindly use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. |
Ads |
#18
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 21:53:22 -0600, Char Jackson
wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:31:57 -0600, wrote: I got a used computer on ebay with a FRESH install of XP Pro SP3. The seller also installed on of them free "Office Suites" and a free Anti-Virus program, (I dont recall which one), and Chrome browser. That's all that was on the drive. That thing took literally 4 to 5 minutes to boot. I swear that was the slowest booting computer in history. I know it was not the office suite, or Chrome causing the problem, and neither of them were running upon bootup. I wiped the drive, installed XP Pro Sp3, and that same computer booted in less than one minute. Its obvious the problem was the anti-virus bull****.... It's also obvious that you never know what else the previous owner installed before handing the system over to you. No matter what he/she claims to have done, I would always recommend reformatting and starting fresh. A very strong ditto! He had no idea how the computer has been maintained, what has been installed incorrectly, what is missing, what viruses and spyware there may be, etc. I wouldn't want to live with somebody else's mistakes and problems, possibility of kiddy p0rn, etc., and I wouldn't recommend that anyone else do so either. Not doing a clean operating system installation with a used computer is playing with fire. |
#19
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Thu, 29 Dec 2016 23:25:16
-0200, Shadow wrote: On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:09:12 -0800, XPUSER wrote: Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA Replying to the XP side of the discussion. And old IDE HD can indeed cause a slow startup (Mydefrag - run the "System Disk Weekly" script), but it's a good idea to look at what services and startups you are running. CodeStuff Starter is a great program for examining them. Have a look at Black Viper's web site about what services are safe to disable. Thanks for these sources. I'm not the OP but I will check them out. Do you really want Google, Adobe, Microsoft, Oracle and others sending your data at startup to "check if there is an appropriate update" ? Probably not. It's amazing the arrogance of all these writers that they put in these startup programs without even asking. I had one program that checked if there was an update every 10 minutes. Every month would have been more than enough. Plus the ones that load part of themselves just in case you want to use it later. I found Anvir. Not sure what the name means. It does a bunch of things but the only one I really like is that it keeps track of files in the startup folder, and if you tell it to get rid of one, you can also tell it to get rid of it every time it gets added. Some of these programs will re-add themselves every session if you delete them, and this thwarts that. I'm no expert but everything I've read, about how fast drives are even with fragmented files, makes it seem like fragmentation is not the OP's problem, but since he asked, I also have Glary Utilities. It has a lot of parts and I can't remember them and I never use them, but one part it has is an entry in the right-click menu in your file manager for Glary Defrag, for one program or one directory at a time. Any directory. OOPs, I take that back. The entry is in every context menu but I finally tried it, in the OP's honor, and it points to the whole drive, when I thought it would just do one file. It analysed my 85gigs in just a minute or two and said that I am 0.61% fragmented. So I'm not going to defrag, but it has a map with 7 colors, and it has an optimize option. Do you want to pre-load your Office Software "so it's faster when you eventually use it" ? No .... Do you really want Remote Desktop activated, do you use Scheduler, do you want M$ checking if all your private videos are DRM compatible ? Disable the non-essential. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mydefrag http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S.../Starter.shtml Black Viper is down, ATM, but there is a table he http://www.majorgeeks.com/content/pa...iguration.html Which might help. []'s |
#20
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
Wow !
I downloaded MyDefrag v4.3.1 I ran "System Disk Daily" on C: of my Win XP Pro partition. The PC boots with NO disk head noise and completes boot to desktop in about 20 seconds (that's including Log In less my typing time). What a significant improvement !!!! Thanks !!! |
#21
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:39:09 -0800, XPUSER wrote:
Wow ! I downloaded MyDefrag v4.3.1 I ran "System Disk Daily" on C: of my Win XP Pro partition. The PC boots with NO disk head noise and completes boot to desktop in about 20 seconds (that's including Log In less my typing time). What a significant improvement !!!! Thanks !!! I prefer the "System Disk Weekly" It takes longer than the one you used, but does a better job. The monthly script is a bit of a pain, takes too long to complete. Anyway, thanks for the feedback. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
#22
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
On 12/30/2016 03:08 PM, Shadow wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:39:09 -0800, XPUSER wrote: Wow ! I downloaded MyDefrag v4.3.1 I ran "System Disk Daily" on C: of my Win XP Pro partition. The PC boots with NO disk head noise and completes boot to desktop in about 20 seconds (that's including Log In less my typing time). What a significant improvement !!!! Thanks !!! I prefer the "System Disk Weekly" It takes longer than the one you used, but does a better job. The monthly script is a bit of a pain, takes too long to complete. Anyway, thanks for the feedback. []'s When I have a dinner for 10 to cook for, I usually run the monthly, but that's once a year. :-) Now that I have an SSD I haven't seen that program in a long time. Kinda liked watching it clean the little dots as it progressed. (I know... get a life!). :-) |
#23
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:39:09
-0800, XPUSER wrote: Wow ! I downloaded MyDefrag v4.3.1 I ran "System Disk Daily" on C: of my Win XP Pro partition. The PC boots with NO disk head noise and completes boot to desktop in about 20 seconds (that's including Log In less my typing time). What a significant improvement !!!! What you really mean is, "All you cynics who said my plan wouldn't help, Fooey on you. You're not as smart as you think" That includes me iirc. Thanks !!! |
#24
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
micky wrote:
In microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, on Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:39:09 -0800, XPUSER wrote: Wow ! I downloaded MyDefrag v4.3.1 I ran "System Disk Daily" on C: of my Win XP Pro partition. The PC boots with NO disk head noise and completes boot to desktop in about 20 seconds (that's including Log In less my typing time). What a significant improvement !!!! What you really mean is, "All you cynics who said my plan wouldn't help, Fooey on you. You're not as smart as you think" That includes me iirc. I'd want to understand why it did make a difference. To start with, you'd run your defragmenter tool in analysis mode, and see the "percentage fragmentation" claimed in the analysis. But just as important, you'd probably also want to check the disk health (SMART), because it's not a good idea to run any stressful processes on a sick hard drive. Examples of things where you should check health, are before using CHKDSK or before using a defragmenter. The defragmenter may offer an improvement in performance, in the same way that running a copy of Spinrite might, by re-writing flaky sectors and reducing or removing read timeouts on bad sectors. As for how the OS treats the disk, WinXP does actually work behind the scenes, but I think it only works on .pf files. It actually does some optimization on its own. I know this, because the process failed one day, and was writing to the same sector over and over again. And making a noise come from the hard drive. That's how I discovered WinXP was being sneaky. Later OSes can have regularly scheduled defragmentation. Or in the case of an SSD on such systems, instead of a defrag, the OS can run a re-TRIM on the SSD, to inform the SSD what clusters aren't in usage. There's lots you can learn from these little events, if you plan ahead. Another metric, would be how long it took MyDefrag to finish the job. Paul |
#25
|
|||
|
|||
Defrag Bootup Files
|
|
Thread Tools | |
Display Modes | Rate This Thread |
|
|