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How do you install gadgets in W10?
All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up and running in the first place. Am I missing something obvious here? -- Peter --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Try 8GadgetPack: https://8gadgetpack.net/
On 1/01/2019 09:48, Ramsman wrote: How do you install gadgets in W10? All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up and running in the first place. Am I missing something obvious here? |
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Ramsman wrote:
How do you install gadgets in W10? All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up and running in the first place. Am I missing something obvious here? https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/ "After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7. " This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports the HTML/JS gadgets. So when I downloaded one of them, I got 8GadgetPackSetup.msi 23,244,220 bytes You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights. Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it. https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML and JS in there. Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some are watched more carefully than others. That makes it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is. You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform, downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives the black hats too much info to work with). Paul |
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On 01/01/2019 10:04, Kevin Bean wrote:
Try 8GadgetPack: https://8gadgetpack.net/ On 1/01/2019 09:48, Ramsman wrote: How do you install gadgets in W10? All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up and running in the first place. Am I missing something obvious here? Thanks, but I don't want them. I just want to install a single meter. -- Peter --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 01/01/2019 10:26, Paul wrote:
Ramsman wrote: How do you install gadgets in W10? All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up and running in the first place. Am I missing something obvious here? https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/ Â*Â* "After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just Â*Â*Â* right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll Â*Â*Â* see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7. Â*Â* " This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports the HTML/JS gadgets. So when I downloaded one of them, I got Â*Â* 8GadgetPackSetup.msiÂ*Â*Â* 23,244,220 bytes You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights. Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it. https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML and JS in there. Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some are watched more carefully than others. That makes it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is. You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform, downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives the black hats too much info to work with). Â*Â* Paul It's NetworkMonitorII.gadget. No .exe or .msi. No obvious way of installing. I just want to run this gadget, not any of ther ones included in the various packages. -- Peter --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Ramsman wrote:
On 01/01/2019 10:26, Paul wrote: Ramsman wrote: How do you install gadgets in W10? All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up and running in the first place. Am I missing something obvious here? https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/ "After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7. " This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports the HTML/JS gadgets. So when I downloaded one of them, I got 8GadgetPackSetup.msi 23,244,220 bytes You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights. Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it. https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML and JS in there. Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some are watched more carefully than others. That makes it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is. You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform, downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives the black hats too much info to work with). Paul It's NetworkMonitorII.gadget. No .exe or .msi. No obvious way of installing. I just want to run this gadget, not any of ther ones included in the various packages. If you look at 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , it includes "sidebar.exe". Checking the properties on that file, it's Microsoft software, not something written by a third party. What the MSI package does, is install some bits and pieces from another Windows OS, so that the "NetworkMonitorII.gadget" you have, can be "interpreted". Some of these things rely on engines in the OS to "interpret" and not "execute" them. That is an example of an essential element to interpret your "NetworkMonitorII.gadget". Now, in addition to sidebar.exe , the file would need to be hacked a bit. Some Microsoft content has a declaration of what OS it is for. If you try and take Solitaire from an older Windows OS and run it in Windows 10, it is blacklisted. By using a hex editor, you change a few bytes in it (I don't know the recipe) and that declares it is for your current OS. That's why we have 100MB games packs where files have been hacked to pass a blacklist check. You cannot hack files which are signed. Critical parts of the OS are signed as well as marked. If you attempt to change the OS declaration, it ruins the signing and the loader won't load it. So anyway, if you look at the 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , some of it is a couple Windows 7 materials, which might be hacked so they pass a blacklist check. Then, you load your *.gadget on top of that, to be interpreted and placed in the sidebar. It's something like that. You need two components: 1) The subsystem to interpret the *.gadget. 2) The *.gadget file itself. The MSI, at a bare minimum, gives you (1). But I can see HTML and JS in the MSI as well, so the product is likely "decorated" as well. I don't have a *.gadget handy, but I'm willing to bet if you have 7ZIP handy, the file format is actually an archive format of some sort, with HTML and JS files inside. It should not be an EXE with a PE32 header. It will be ZIP-like (and open-able with the right tool for examination). Paul |
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On 01/01/2019 11:10, Paul wrote:
Ramsman wrote: On 01/01/2019 10:26, Paul wrote: Ramsman wrote: How do you install gadgets in W10? All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up and running in the first place. Am I missing something obvious here? https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/ Â*Â*Â* "After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just Â*Â*Â*Â* right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll Â*Â*Â*Â* see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7. Â*Â*Â* " This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports the HTML/JS gadgets. So when I downloaded one of them, I got Â*Â*Â* 8GadgetPackSetup.msiÂ*Â*Â* 23,244,220 bytes You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights. Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it. https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML and JS in there. Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some are watched more carefully than others. That makes it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is. You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform, downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives the black hats too much info to work with). Â*Â*Â* Paul It's NetworkMonitorII.gadget. No .exe or .msi. No obvious way of installing. I just want to run this gadget, not any of ther ones included in the various packages. If you look at 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , it includes "sidebar.exe". Checking the properties on that file, it's Microsoft software, not something written by a third party. What the MSI package does, is install some bits and pieces from another Windows OS, so that the "NetworkMonitorII.gadget" you have, can be "interpreted". Some of these things rely on engines in the OS to "interpret" and not "execute" them. That is an example of an essential element to interpret your "NetworkMonitorII.gadget". Now, in addition to sidebar.exe , the file would need to be hacked a bit. Some Microsoft content has a declaration of what OS it is for. If you try and take Solitaire from an older Windows OS and run it in Windows 10, it is blacklisted. By using a hex editor, you change a few bytes in it (I don't know the recipe) and that declares it is for your current OS. That's why we have 100MB games packs where files have been hacked to pass a blacklist check. You cannot hack files which are signed. Critical parts of the OS are signed as well as marked. If you attempt to change the OS declaration, it ruins the signing and the loader won't load it. So anyway, if you look at the 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , some of it is a couple Windows 7 materials, which might be hacked so they pass a blacklist check. Then, you load your *.gadget on top of that, to be interpreted and placed in the sidebar. It's something like that. You need two components: 1) The subsystem to interpret the *.gadget. 2) The *.gadget file itself. The MSI, at a bare minimum, gives you (1). But I can see HTML and JS in the MSI as well, so the product is likely "decorated" as well. I don't have a *.gadget handy, but I'm willing to bet if you have 7ZIP handy, the file format is actually an archive format of some sort, with HTML and JS files inside. It should not be an EXE with a PE32 header. It will be ZIP-like (and open-able with the right tool for examination). Â*Â* Paul Thanks for the information, Paul. There is only a .zip file, and it contains only the .gadget file. There is more information on the website, but I have other things that require urgent attention at the moment, so I'll leave this for a while. -- Peter --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On 1/3/2019 1:48 AM, Ramsman wrote:
On 01/01/2019 11:10, Paul wrote: Ramsman wrote: On 01/01/2019 10:26, Paul wrote: Ramsman wrote: How do you install gadgets in W10? All the web sources I've found talk about "once installed" or reviving gadgets from W7/Vista, but I can't find out how to get a W10 gadget up and running in the first place. Am I missing something obvious here? https://www.howtogeek.com/277161/how...ably-shouldnt/ Â*Â*Â* "After installing 8GadgetPack or Gadgets Revived, you can just Â*Â*Â*Â* right-click your Windows desktop and select "Gadgets". You’ll Â*Â*Â*Â* see the same gadgets Window you’ll remember from Windows 7. Â*Â*Â* " This implies the thing you download, is an EXE, an MSI, or the like and you install it. That puts back the platform that supports the HTML/JS gadgets. So when I downloaded one of them, I got Â*Â*Â* 8GadgetPackSetup.msiÂ*Â*Â* 23,244,220 bytes You can right-click that and "install". The OS knows which file types deserve elevation, and it will prompt for administrator rights. Judging by the date, someone has already been re-scanning it. https://www.virustotal.com/#/file/a2...75ce/detection If you examine the package with 7ZIP, it has "sidebar.exe", so the kit does have executables in it. It's not all fluffy HTML and JS in there. Your computer is filled with attack surfaces. Some are watched more carefully than others. That makes it hard to estimate how "dangerous" such a thing is. You may be tempted to "add" content to the base platform, downloading HTML/JS from an unknown source. And maybe Windows Defender doesn't have good protections for such imports (makers of AV products, don't publicly admit either way as to what they're good or bad at, because it gives the black hats too much info to work with). Â*Â*Â* Paul It's NetworkMonitorII.gadget. No .exe or .msi. No obvious way of installing. I just want to run this gadget, not any of ther ones included in the various packages. If you look at 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , it includes "sidebar.exe". Checking the properties on that file, it's Microsoft software, not something written by a third party. What the MSI package does, is install some bits and pieces from another Windows OS, so that the "NetworkMonitorII.gadget" you have, can be "interpreted". Some of these things rely on engines in the OS to "interpret" and not "execute" them. That is an example of an essential element to interpret your "NetworkMonitorII.gadget". Now, in addition to sidebar.exe , the file would need to be hacked a bit. Some Microsoft content has a declaration of what OS it is for. If you try and take Solitaire from an older Windows OS and run it in Windows 10, it is blacklisted. By using a hex editor, you change a few bytes in it (I don't know the recipe) and that declares it is for your current OS. That's why we have 100MB games packs where files have been hacked to pass a blacklist check. You cannot hack files which are signed. Critical parts of the OS are signed as well as marked. If you attempt to change the OS declaration, it ruins the signing and the loader won't load it. So anyway, if you look at the 8GadgetPackSetup.msi , some of it is a couple Windows 7 materials, which might be hacked so they pass a blacklist check. Then, you load your *.gadget on top of that, to be interpreted and placed in the sidebar. It's something like that. You need two components: 1) The subsystem to interpret the *.gadget. 2) The *.gadget file itself. The MSI, at a bare minimum, gives you (1). But I can see HTML and JS in the MSI as well, so the product is likely "decorated" as well. I don't have a *.gadget handy, but I'm willing to bet if you have 7ZIP handy, the file format is actually an archive format of some sort, with HTML and JS files inside. It should not be an EXE with a PE32 header.Rai It will be ZIP-like (and open-able with the right tool for examination). Â*Â*Â* Paul Thanks for the information, Paul. There is only a .zip file, and it contains only the .gadget file. There is more information on the website, but I have other things that require urgent attention at the moment, so I'll leave this for a while. I've had win10 updates uninstall 8gadget. I switched to rainmeter. |
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