motherboard change

Decided to upgrade my motherboard today. Installed the new one and restarted
my system. It will start to load windows then restart. I tried safe mode and
it still does it. I reinstalled the old board and brought the system back up.
I had planned to install the new drivers first and then shut down the machine
and swap the boards again. The cd will autorun but tells me the motherboard
is not supported and exits. How can I get around this problem without
reloading windows. I have tons of stuff I don't want to lose.

If your version of XP came with the computer then it is likely an OEM
version of XP and as such might be BIOS locked. Therefore it will not run on
a different motherboard. If this is the case you will need to acquire a
retail version of XP that is the same flavor that you have installed . If
your version is XP Home then you need an XP Home version and if you had
already installed SP3 then the version of XP will also need to have SP3. You
can slipstream SP3 into an earlier version if you must. Once you have this
CD you can perform an in place Repair Install.
How to slipstream http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
How to do a Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Before attempting any of this ensure you have a backup of all important
data.

--

Xandros


"Butch" wrote in message
...
Decided to upgrade my motherboard today. Installed the new one and
restarted
my system. It will start to load windows then restart. I tried safe mode
and
it still does it. I reinstalled the old board and brought the system back
up.
I had planned to install the new drivers first and then shut down the
machine
and swap the boards again. The cd will autorun but tells me the
motherboard
is not supported and exits. How can I get around this problem without
reloading windows. I have tons of stuff I don't want to lose.

Sounds like you needed to do your homework before you bought the Motherboard.
if the booting to the install cd tells you it doesn't support the new MB,
then why are you not accepting it's truth???

I assume you have done the following, shut down pc, swap in the new MB, boot
only to the install cd, not the installed operating system on the HD, see if
the cd reports (again) if it will not support the new MB, is this the case?

I seem to have the impression that you tried to (while in windows) insert
the install cd and do a repair, this will not work. you MUST boot to the cd
(change the boot order if necessary in your BIOS). am I correct ?

"Butch" wrote:

Decided to upgrade my motherboard today. Installed the new one and restarted
my system. It will start to load windows then restart. I tried safe mode and
it still does it. I reinstalled the old board and brought the system back up.
I had planned to install the new drivers first and then shut down the machine
and swap the boards again. The cd will autorun but tells me the motherboard
is not supported and exits. How can I get around this problem without
reloading windows. I have tons of stuff I don't want to lose.

The date and time was 12/11/2008 4:46 PM, and on a whim, Butch pounded
out on the keyboard:

Decided to upgrade my motherboard today. Installed the new one and restarted
my system. It will start to load windows then restart. I tried safe mode and
it still does it. I reinstalled the old board and brought the system back up.
I had planned to install the new drivers first and then shut down the machine
and swap the boards again. The cd will autorun but tells me the motherboard
is not supported and exits. How can I get around this problem without
reloading windows. I have tons of stuff I don't want to lose.

Hi Butch,

You need to perform a Repair Install on Windows, NOT a new install.
THEN install your new drivers.
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

You should make a backup first if you have "tons of stuff you don't want
to lose". Usually it goes flawlessly, but not 100% of the time.

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Butch wrote:
Decided to upgrade my motherboard today. Installed the new one and restarted
my system. It will start to load windows then restart. I tried safe mode and
it still does it. I reinstalled the old board and brought the system back up.
I had planned to install the new drivers first and then shut down the machine
and swap the boards again. The cd will autorun but tells me the motherboard
is not supported and exits. How can I get around this problem without
reloading windows. I have tons of stuff I don't want to lose.


Normally, and assuming a retail license (many factory-installed OEM
installations are BIOS-locked to a specific motherboard chipset and
therefore are *not* transferable to a new motherboard - check yours
before starting), unless the new motherboard is virtually identical
(same chipset, same IDE controllers, same BIOS version, etc.) to the one
on which the WinXP installation was originally performed, you'll need to
perform a repair (a.k.a. in-place upgrade) installation, at the very least:

How to Perform an In-Place Upgrade of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/directo...;EN-US;Q315341

Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with WinXP Installed
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html

The "why" is quite simple, really, and has nothing to do with
licensing issues, per se; it's a purely technical matter, at this point.
You've pulled the proverbial hardware rug out from under the OS. (If
you don't like -- or get -- the rug analogy, think of it as picking up a
Cape Cod style home and then setting it down onto a Ranch style
foundation. It just isn't going to fit.) WinXP, like Win2K before it,
is not nearly as "promiscuous" as Win9x when it comes to accepting any
old hardware configuration you throw at it. On installation it
"tailors" itself to the specific hardware found. This is one of the
reasons that the entire WinNT/2K/XP OS family is so much more stable
than the Win9x group.

As always when undertaking such a significant change, back up any
important data before starting.

This will also probably require re-activation, unless you have a
Volume Licensed version of WinXP Pro installed. If it's been more than
120 days since you last activated that specific Product Key, you'll most
likely be able to activate via the Internet without problem. If it's
been less, you might have to make a 5 minute phone call.



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The date and time was 12/11/2008 4:53 PM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

If your version of XP came with the computer then it is likely an OEM
version of XP and as such might be BIOS locked. Therefore it will not run on
a different motherboard. If this is the case you will need to acquire a
retail version of XP that is the same flavor that you have installed . If
your version is XP Home then you need an XP Home version and if you had
already installed SP3 then the version of XP will also need to have SP3. You
can slipstream SP3 into an earlier version if you must. Once you have this
CD you can perform an in place Repair Install.
How to slipstream http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
How to do a Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Before attempting any of this ensure you have a backup of all important
data.


You misunderstood. The OP reinstalled the old MB and tried to install
the new MB drivers first, so when he swapped in the new one, Windows
would recognize it. The new MB CD stated the old MB is not supported.

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The date and time was 12/11/2008 4:55 PM, and on a whim, sgopus pounded
out on the keyboard:

Sounds like you needed to do your homework before you bought the Motherboard.
if the booting to the install cd tells you it doesn't support the new MB,
then why are you not accepting it's truth???

I assume you have done the following, shut down pc, swap in the new MB, boot
only to the install cd, not the installed operating system on the HD, see if
the cd reports (again) if it will not support the new MB, is this the case?

I seem to have the impression that you tried to (while in windows) insert
the install cd and do a repair, this will not work. you MUST boot to the cd
(change the boot order if necessary in your BIOS). am I correct ?

"Butch" wrote:

Decided to upgrade my motherboard today. Installed the new one and restarted
my system. It will start to load windows then restart. I tried safe mode and
it still does it. I reinstalled the old board and brought the system back up.
I had planned to install the new drivers first and then shut down the machine
and swap the boards again. The cd will autorun but tells me the motherboard
is not supported and exits. How can I get around this problem without
reloading windows. I have tons of stuff I don't want to lose.


You misunderstood IMO. The OP reinstalled the old MB and tried to
install the new MB drivers first, so when he swapped in the new one,
Windows would recognize it. The new MB CD stated the old MB is not
supported.

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"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was 12/11/2008 4:53 PM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

If your version of XP came with the computer then it is likely an OEM
version of XP and as such might be BIOS locked. Therefore it will not run
on a different motherboard. If this is the case you will need to acquire
a retail version of XP that is the same flavor that you have installed .
If your version is XP Home then you need an XP Home version and if you
had already installed SP3 then the version of XP will also need to have
SP3. You can slipstream SP3 into an earlier version if you must. Once you
have this CD you can perform an in place Repair Install.
How to slipstream http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
How to do a Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Before attempting any of this ensure you have a backup of all important
data.


You misunderstood. The OP reinstalled the old MB and tried to install the
new MB drivers first, so when he swapped in the new one, Windows would
recognize it. The new MB CD stated the old MB is not supported.

--
Terry R.

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With all due respect Terry R what makes you think I misunderstood the OP?


--

Xandros

The date and time was 12/12/2008 5:55 AM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

"Terry R." wrote in message
...
The date and time was 12/11/2008 4:53 PM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

If your version of XP came with the computer then it is likely an OEM
version of XP and as such might be BIOS locked. Therefore it will not run
on a different motherboard. If this is the case you will need to acquire
a retail version of XP that is the same flavor that you have installed .
If your version is XP Home then you need an XP Home version and if you
had already installed SP3 then the version of XP will also need to have
SP3. You can slipstream SP3 into an earlier version if you must. Once you
have this CD you can perform an in place Repair Install.
How to slipstream http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
How to do a Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Before attempting any of this ensure you have a backup of all important
data.

You misunderstood. The OP reinstalled the old MB and tried to install the
new MB drivers first, so when he swapped in the new one, Windows would
recognize it. The new MB CD stated the old MB is not supported.


With all due respect Terry R what makes you think I misunderstood the OP?



Re-read it carefully and you will see. I thought the same as you when I
first read it. Then I saw what he did.

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"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was 12/12/2008 5:55 AM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

"Terry R." wrote in message
...
The date and time was 12/11/2008 4:53 PM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

If your version of XP came with the computer then it is likely an OEM
version of XP and as such might be BIOS locked. Therefore it will not
run on a different motherboard. If this is the case you will need to
acquire a retail version of XP that is the same flavor that you have
installed . If your version is XP Home then you need an XP Home version
and if you had already installed SP3 then the version of XP will also
need to have SP3. You can slipstream SP3 into an earlier version if you
must. Once you have this CD you can perform an in place Repair Install.
How to slipstream http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
How to do a Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Before attempting any of this ensure you have a backup of all important
data.

You misunderstood. The OP reinstalled the old MB and tried to install
the new MB drivers first, so when he swapped in the new one, Windows
would recognize it. The new MB CD stated the old MB is not supported.


With all due respect Terry R what makes you think I misunderstood the OP?



Re-read it carefully and you will see. I thought the same as you when I
first read it. Then I saw what he did.

--
Terry R.

Being the idiot that I am I did re-read the OP's post and I still don't see
why you think my suggestion is incorrect. It is obvious that the OP wants to
install a version of XP on a new motherboard that came preinstalled on
another system. It is highly likely it is an OEM version that is BIOS locked
and that is why it won't run on a different motherboard. And of course he
can't install drivers for the new board on the old board.

His option is to do a Repair Install with a retail version of XP that is the
same flavour as is OEM version.
--

Xandros

Xandros wrote:
"Terry R." wrote in message
...
The date and time was 12/12/2008 5:55 AM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

"Terry R." wrote in message
...
The date and time was 12/11/2008 4:53 PM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

If your version of XP came with the computer then it is likely an OEM
version of XP and as such might be BIOS locked. Therefore it will not
run on a different motherboard. If this is the case you will need to
acquire a retail version of XP that is the same flavor that you have
installed . If your version is XP Home then you need an XP Home version
and if you had already installed SP3 then the version of XP will also
need to have SP3. You can slipstream SP3 into an earlier version if you
must. Once you have this CD you can perform an in place Repair Install.
How to slipstream http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
How to do a Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Before attempting any of this ensure you have a backup of all important
data.

You misunderstood. The OP reinstalled the old MB and tried to install
the new MB drivers first, so when he swapped in the new one, Windows
would recognize it. The new MB CD stated the old MB is not supported.

With all due respect Terry R what makes you think I misunderstood the OP?


Re-read it carefully and you will see. I thought the same as you when I
first read it. Then I saw what he did.

--
Terry R.

Being the idiot that I am I did re-read the OP's post and I still don't see
why you think my suggestion is incorrect. It is obvious that the OP wants to
install a version of XP on a new motherboard that came preinstalled on
another system. It is highly likely it is an OEM version that is BIOS locked
and that is why it won't run on a different motherboard. And of course he
can't install drivers for the new board on the old board.

His option is to do a Repair Install with a retail version of XP that is the
same flavour as is OEM version.

Until the OP reports back, I guess we won't know. I don't believe it's
because of an OEM version of XP, but the way he was going about trying
to get it working.

Hopefully we'll know soon.

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Terry R.

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"Terry R." wrote in message
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Xandros wrote:
"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was 12/12/2008 5:55 AM, and on a whim, Xandros pounded
out on the keyboard:

"Terry R." wrote in message
...
The date and time was 12/11/2008 4:53 PM, and on a whim, Xandros
pounded out on the keyboard:

If your version of XP came with the computer then it is likely an OEM
version of XP and as such might be BIOS locked. Therefore it will not
run on a different motherboard. If this is the case you will need to
acquire a retail version of XP that is the same flavor that you have
installed . If your version is XP Home then you need an XP Home
version and if you had already installed SP3 then the version of XP
will also need to have SP3. You can slipstream SP3 into an earlier
version if you must. Once you have this CD you can perform an in
place Repair Install.
How to slipstream http://www.webtree.ca/windowsxp/slipstream.htm
How to do a Repair Install
http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/XPrepairinstall.htm

Before attempting any of this ensure you have a backup of all
important data.

You misunderstood. The OP reinstalled the old MB and tried to install
the new MB drivers first, so when he swapped in the new one, Windows
would recognize it. The new MB CD stated the old MB is not supported.

With all due respect Terry R what makes you think I misunderstood the
OP?


Re-read it carefully and you will see. I thought the same as you when I
first read it. Then I saw what he did.

--
Terry R.

Being the idiot that I am I did re-read the OP's post and I still don't
see why you think my suggestion is incorrect. It is obvious that the OP
wants to install a version of XP on a new motherboard that came
preinstalled on another system. It is highly likely it is an OEM version
that is BIOS locked and that is why it won't run on a different
motherboard. And of course he can't install drivers for the new board on
the old board.

His option is to do a Repair Install with a retail version of XP that is
the same flavour as is OEM version.

Until the OP reports back, I guess we won't know. I don't believe it's
because of an OEM version of XP, but the way he was going about trying to
get it working.

Hopefully we'll know soon.

--
Terry R.

You can believe what you want Terry but I've seen this many times. Purchase
a system with a BIOS locked OEM version of XP on it. Pull the motherboard
and install a new board from a different manufacturer. Boot the system and
XP will refuse to boot to the Desktop. Put the old board back in and it will
boot. Obviously the newboard is not liked. Boot with the old board. Try to
replace hardware drivers for a completely different board. They will not be
accepted. That is exactly what the OP tried. if you read the post.


--

Xandros

"Butch" wrote in message
...
Decided to upgrade my motherboard today. Installed the new one and
restarted
my system. It will start to load windows then restart. I tried safe mode
and
it still does it. I reinstalled the old board and brought the system back
up.
I had planned to install the new drivers first and then shut down the
machine
and swap the boards again. The cd will autorun but tells me the
motherboard
is not supported and exits. How can I get around this problem without
reloading windows. I have tons of stuff I don't want to lose.

Its quite normal for the updated driver installation to bow out on
installation with an inappropriate motherboard (old motherboard).

To answer the negation of "reloading windows", you have to provide more
information which I feel is probably not coming anyway....
--
Dave