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modem question and modem string wanted
modem question and modem string wanted
Is it ok to have an isa modem and pci modem installed at the same time? I have a dual boot system. 98se and xp. 98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem (cl-md56xx cirrus logic) Windows xp does not. However, xp does recognize the ESS 1868 ISA sound card. I hope that does not mean, I have to reinstall XP, so it will recognize my modem. I did try the standard modem trick As far as the string wanted For 98se What is the string to mute the modem volume and show the connection speed, not the port speed. Greg |
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modem question and modem string wanted
Greg wrote:
modem question and modem string wanted Is it ok to have an isa modem and pci modem installed at the same time? I have a dual boot system. 98se and xp. 98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem (cl-md56xx cirrus logic) Windows xp does not. However, xp does recognize the ESS 1868 ISA sound card. I hope that does not mean, I have to reinstall XP, so it will recognize my modem. I did try the standard modem trick As far as the string wanted For 98se What is the string to mute the modem volume and show the connection speed, not the port speed. Greg XP should work with a standard ISA modem the built-in "genric" drive should work It may be an IRQ conflict have a look in the control panel... and if there is a conflict...try re-assigning the resources. It may be a bit of trial and error but within a try or two you should resolve the conflict (if there is one) |
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modem question and modem string wanted
Greg wrote:
(...) You have a motherboard with ISA slots. You are running XP on said computer. You are indicating that you have internet access via dial-up modem. You are one hurting unit. Do yourself a favor and get a computer that was manufactured this decade, and subscribe to a broad-band internet service. |
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modem question and modem string wanted
98 Guy wrote:
Greg wrote: (...) You have a motherboard with ISA slots. You are running XP on said computer. You are indicating that you have internet access via dial-up modem. You are one hurting unit. Do yourself a favor and get a computer that was manufactured this decade, and subscribe to a broad-band internet service. As evidenced recently some of our more rural cousins do not have the luxury of broadband access. -- Geoff ExploitEd Wisdom and experience come with age, they say, but I do wish I could remember the darn question |
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modem question and modem string wanted
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:16:20 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:
Greg wrote: (...) You have a motherboard with ISA slots. You are running XP on said computer. You are indicating that you have internet access via dial-up modem. You are one hurting unit. Do yourself a favor and get a computer that was manufactured this decade, and subscribe to a broad-band internet service. My computer can handle up 500 mb of memory, because of tech broke one the plastic plug. It can only handle 256 mb stick at the most. The stick order does not matter, from what I have read. My computer was a business system built by Compaq and was giving to me, when the business upgraded to xp. However, this system has 2 isa slots. 5 pci slots 2 on board 1.1 USB slot 1 pci slot is using a ragepro pci graphic card. 1 pci slot is using a usb 2.0 pci card 1 pci slot is for a pci modem that went bad I order another one. 1 pci using is used for a Network Adapter 1 pcl slot empty (This maybe a AGP slot, not sure) 1 ISA slot is used for an E1868 ISA sound card 1 ISA slot is used for an cl-md56xx cirrus modem currently. 5 bay drive (Never could get a second hard drive or a second cd drive to work correctly). I have been running xp and 98se for a long while. Xp is a little slow, but that because of my memory. That does not bug me. I am used to slow systems. As far is getting a computer, do you want to send me $500.00 walmart gift card? I am kidding of course. I will be glad to get a computer if you did that. I still would have to buy a USB modem and install a floppy drive. My system I would love to have Would be W7 (I hate the new desktop and start menu, that is a turn off) or Vista With a floppy drive, DVD/cdrw burner drive Access to the Bios menu needed. So, I can choose the boot order. One site said xp does not have ISA bus. If that was the case, my ISA sound card wouldn't work. The only reason I got xp, is so I can use flash to pay my bills. Greg |
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GbH wrote:
Do yourself a favor and get a computer that was manufactured this decade, and subscribe to a broad-band internet service. As evidenced recently some of our more rural cousins do not have the luxury of broadband access. Evidence points to lack of spending $$$ and not necessarily lack of broadband coverage, as indicated by running XP on ancient hardware. |
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modem question and modem string wanted
Greg wrote:
Do yourself a favor and get a computer that was manufactured this decade, and subscribe to a broad-band internet service. My computer can handle up 500 mb of memory, Even PC's made 10 years ago can handle 512 mb memory. Doesn't mean their suitable for XP. CPU speed and internal cache are important if we're dealing with such ancient hardware. And you're only running with 256 mb to boot. Like I said, do yourself a favor and get newer hardware. And messing with modems these days is just nonsense. However, this system has 2 isa slots. 5 pci slots 2 on board 1.1 USB slot Not even AGP? And USB 1.1? (shakes my head) Xp is a little slow, but that because of my memory. Trust me. It's slow mainly because of your CPU. If you had a P4 or even a Celeron running 2 or 3 ghz, then I'd say your 256 mb ram is the problem. What do you have - a Pentium 1 running at 133 mhz? Maybe a P-2 running at 250 mhz? As far is getting a computer, do you want to send me $500.00 walmart gift card? I am kidding of course. I will be glad to get a computer if you did that. Go to one of those discount / surplus tech stores and pick up a 5-year-old HP or IBM PC that just came off lease from a call center for $150. I still would have to buy a USB modem and USB modem? (shakes head again) One site said xp does not have ISA bus. XP can handle ISA bus cards just fine. Just don't expect hardware auto-detection. The only reason I got xp, is so I can use flash to pay my bills. Win-98 runs flash-9 no problem, and flash-10 if you know what you're doing. Adobe is still supporting flash-9. |
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modem question and modem string wanted
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:42:36 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:
Greg wrote: Do yourself a favor and get a computer that was manufactured this decade, and subscribe to a broad-band internet service. My computer can handle up 500 mb of memory, Even PC's made 10 years ago can handle 512 mb memory. Doesn't mean their suitable for XP. CPU speed and internal cache are important if we're dealing with such ancient hardware. And you're only running with 256 mb to boot. I am actual running with less memory than that. I am not much of a gamer. I use it mainly for paying bills, newsgroups, forums, shopping, TV guide (Titan.com) My computer CPU is P3 running at 500 mhz on the pci slots maybe be an AGP slot. Greg |
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modem question and modem string wanted
In message , 98 Guy writes:
Greg wrote: Do yourself a favor and get a computer that was manufactured this decade, and subscribe to a broad-band internet service. My computer can handle up 500 mb of memory, Even PC's made 10 years ago can handle 512 mb memory. Doesn't mean their suitable for XP. Or that they're not. CPU speed and internal cache are important if we're dealing with such ancient hardware. Amount of RAM is far more important. I agree, 256M isn't really enough for XP though, especially SP2 or 3. And you're only running with 256 mb to boot. Like I said, do yourself a favor and get newer hardware. And messing with modems these days is just nonsense. Well a lot of the web does seem to assume you have BB, yes. For just email and text newsgroups, provided no idiot sends you a huge attachment, it's OK. However, this system has 2 isa slots. 5 pci slots 2 on board 1.1 USB slot Not even AGP? You don't need AGP. (Or even PCI, though I don't know if XP knows about ISA when it comes to graphics cards.) [] I still would have to buy a USB modem and USB modem? (shakes head again) Most desktop machines have a serial port (unless you only have one and the mouse is in it!). [] -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf ** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously outdated thoughts on PCs. ** Archduke Ferdinand found alive - First World War a mistake! |
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modem question and modem string wanted
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:31:04 -0500, Greg wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:42:36 -0500, 98 Guy wrote: Greg wrote: Do yourself a favor and get a computer that was manufactured this decade, and subscribe to a broad-band internet service. My computer can handle up 500 mb of memory, Even PC's made 10 years ago can handle 512 mb memory. Doesn't mean their suitable for XP. CPU speed and internal cache are important if we're dealing with such ancient hardware. And you're only running with 256 mb to boot. I am actual running with less memory than that. I am not much of a gamer. I use it mainly for paying bills, newsgroups, forums, shopping, TV guide (Titan.com) If you have less than 256MB, you have less RAM than most people need for adequate performance. But you reinforce the view that how much memory you need depends on what apps you run. -- Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP (Windows Desktop Experience) since 2003 Please Reply to the Newsgroup |
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modem question and modem string wanted
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:14:45 -0500, MEB
wrote: Greg wrote: modem question and modem string wanted Is it ok to have an isa modem and pci modem installed at the same time? I have a dual boot system. 98se and xp. Sure, note that both will take a comm port, so it would be best to disable any onboard comm ports via BIOS. You may have conflicts which might take some manual configuration in 9X. 98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem (cl-md56xx cirrus logic) Windows xp does not. However, xp does recognize the ESS 1868 ISA sound card. I hope that does not mean, I have to reinstall XP, so it will recognize my modem. I did try the standard modem trick As far as the string wanted For 98se What is the string to mute the modem volume and show the connection speed, not the port speed. Greg ISA isn't directly addressed in XP, and the modem may not "talk" properly to XP for it to be installed [requiring XP drivers]. If you're interested look for how to get ISA to work properly, and for an XP driver for the ISA modem. Note, however, that this modem doesn't seem to work in XP [or well from what I have found], its a softmodem. The cl-md56xx Cirrus modem is an EARLY implementation of a Win-modem [controllerless] meaning it is a SOFTWARE modem [and works better with the 6.04 or later firmware upgrade, and many were under product recall]. It also uses Cirrus Logic's special set of AT commands, so standard Hayes commands may not work properly. I just ordered a modem again. This time, I made sure it would have drivers for both 98se and xp. I think the only way xp would recognize it, is to do a reinstall or repair install of xp. I think you might be write about the com ports. 98se Com port 1 (Maybe the mouse) Com port 2 (ISA modem) Com port 3 (maybe it was used for the old pci modem) Xp Com port 1 (Maybe the mouse) Com port 2 (Unknown) AT+M0,S22 (Put this in the extra modem settings) I think the S code forces to show the connection speed, not the port speed. Not sure if I remember if that is correct. To all, Does it hurt to have an ISA modem and a PCI modem installed at the same time? I would like to keep it installed for Puppy Linux. Greg |
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modem question and modem string wanted
Greg wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 21:14:45 -0500, MEB wrote: Greg wrote: modem question and modem string wanted Is it ok to have an isa modem and pci modem installed at the same time? I have a dual boot system. 98se and xp. Sure, note that both will take a comm port, so it would be best to disable any onboard comm ports via BIOS. You may have conflicts which might take some manual configuration in 9X. 98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem (cl-md56xx cirrus logic) Windows xp does not. However, xp does recognize the ESS 1868 ISA sound card. I hope that does not mean, I have to reinstall XP, so it will recognize my modem. I did try the standard modem trick As far as the string wanted For 98se What is the string to mute the modem volume and show the connection speed, not the port speed. Greg ISA isn't directly addressed in XP, and the modem may not "talk" properly to XP for it to be installed [requiring XP drivers]. If you're interested look for how to get ISA to work properly, and for an XP driver for the ISA modem. Note, however, that this modem doesn't seem to work in XP [or well from what I have found], its a softmodem. The cl-md56xx Cirrus modem is an EARLY implementation of a Win-modem [controllerless] meaning it is a SOFTWARE modem [and works better with the 6.04 or later firmware upgrade, and many were under product recall]. It also uses Cirrus Logic's special set of AT commands, so standard Hayes commands may not work properly. I just ordered a modem again. This time, I made sure it would have drivers for both 98se and xp. I think the only way xp would recognize it, is to do a reinstall or repair install of xp. It may not have, even then... I think you might be write about the com ports. 98se Com port 1 (Maybe the mouse) Com port 2 (ISA modem) Com port 3 (maybe it was used for the old pci modem) Is it a serial mouse, then yes. If a PS2 then no. Xp Com port 1 (Maybe the mouse) Com port 2 (Unknown) AT+M0,S22 (Put this in the extra modem settings) No comma, all commands are to be placed in one long string. The comma is generally a pause command. So the init string may look like ATF0V1X4&K3E1M0W1&Q4\N3S46=138&W1 - etc. I think the S code forces to show the connection speed, not the port speed. Not sure if I remember if that is correct. S22 - Speaker/Results Bit Mapped Options Indicates the status of command options. Default: 117 (75h) (01110101b) Bit 0,1 - Speaker volume (Ln) 0 Off (L0) 1 Low (L1) (Default.) 2 Medium (L2) 3 High (L3) Bit 2,3 - Speaker control (Mn) 0 Disabled (M0) 1 Off on carrier (M1) (Default.) 2 Always on (M2) 3 On during handshake (M3) Bit 4,5,6 - Limit result codes (Xn) 0 X0 4 X1 5 X2 6 X3 7 X4 (Default.) Bit 7 - Reserved S95 - Extended Result Codes The bits in this register can be set to override some of the Wn command options. A bit set to a 1 in this register will enable the corresponding result code regardless of the Wn setting. Also, refer to Table 3-1. Default: 0 Bit 0 CONNECT result code indicates DCE speed instead of DTE speed. Bit 1 Append/ARQ to CONNECT XXXX result code in error-correction mode (XXXX = rate; see Table 3-1). Bit 2 Enable CARRIER XXXX result code (XXXX = rate; see Table 3-1). Bit 3 Enable PROTOCOL XXXX result code (XXXX = protocol identifier; see Table 3-1). Bit 4 Reserved. Bit 5 Enable COMPRESSION result code (XXXX = compression type; see Table 3-1). Bit 6 Reserved. Bit 7 Reserved To all, Does it hurt to have an ISA modem and a PCI modem installed at the same time? I would like to keep it installed for Puppy Linux. Greg Answered already. I used to run two myself, one for regular usage, another for dedicated Fax services [two line system] or with a single line [the USR Sportster Fax/Data 14400 for faxes as it tended to connect better with all the fax machines and modems]. Note: you *may* have to disable some of the features or split them between the two internal modems. You can't (or shouldn't) have a single line and run two programs using two separate modems at the same time. BOTH may try to answer, or the Fax/Data signaling [monitoring] may interfere with the other program [even though they are on separate comm ports]. Most comm programs have the option to choose which device you want to use, so pick which one when starting. Its MUCH easier to use an internal and external [turn off when not in use]. -- MEB http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking http://peoplescounsel.org The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government ___--- |
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modem question and modem string wanted
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:08:35 -0500, Greg put
finger to keyboard and composed: modem question and modem string wanted Is it ok to have an isa modem and pci modem installed at the same time? I have a dual boot system. 98se and xp. 98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem (cl-md56xx cirrus logic) The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless, others had a hardware controller. See http://www.modemsite.com/56K/intel.asp Does your modem have jumpers? Does it have RAM (61xxx or 62xxx) and EPROM/EEPROM (27xxx or 29xxx) chips? Windows xp does not. However, xp does recognize the ESS 1868 ISA sound card. I hope that does not mean, I have to reinstall XP, so it will recognize my modem. I did try the standard modem trick As far as the string wanted For 98se What is the string to mute the modem volume and show the connection speed, not the port speed. W2 should show the DCE speed. The speaker control commands should be generic Hayes, ie Mn and Ln. Here is an archived library of AT commands: http://web.archive.org/web/200204061...gen_atcmd.html Ambient/Intel/Cirrus Logic MD56XX 56k: http://web.archive.org/web/200208080...m/md56xxdb.pdf Ambient/Intel/Cirrus Logic MD562X 56k: http://web.archive.org/web/200208080...m/md562Xpg.pdf - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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modem question and modem string wanted
Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 09:08:35 -0500, Greg put finger to keyboard and composed: modem question and modem string wanted Is it ok to have an isa modem and pci modem installed at the same time? I have a dual boot system. 98se and xp. 98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem (cl-md56xx cirrus logic) The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless, others had a hardware controller. See http://www.modemsite.com/56K/intel.asp Does your modem have jumpers? Does it have RAM (61xxx or 62xxx) and EPROM/EEPROM (27xxx or 29xxx) chips? Windows xp does not. However, xp does recognize the ESS 1868 ISA sound card. I hope that does not mean, I have to reinstall XP, so it will recognize my modem. I did try the standard modem trick As far as the string wanted For 98se What is the string to mute the modem volume and show the connection speed, not the port speed. W2 should show the DCE speed. The speaker control commands should be generic Hayes, ie Mn and Ln. Here is an archived library of AT commands: http://web.archive.org/web/200204061...gen_atcmd.html Ambient/Intel/Cirrus Logic MD56XX 56k: http://web.archive.org/web/200208080...m/md56xxdb.pdf Ambient/Intel/Cirrus Logic MD562X 56k: http://web.archive.org/web/200208080...m/md562Xpg.pdf - Franc Zabkar Good info Franc... being it was an ISA not PCI I provided the AT commands to obtain the information to identify the particular device, chipset, and other information. The ISA information I found appeared to claim this was a software modem, though that appears potentially wrong according to the webarchive link, as well as my indication of non-standard command set. Hmm, I should have dug a little deeper. The other information and commands seem to be correct. Thanks Franc. -- MEB |
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Franc Zabkar wrote:
98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem (cl-md56xx cirrus logic) The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless, others had a hardware controller. I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless. The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had on-board processors and did all the communication work themselves, as opposed to controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all PCI-based modems). The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing with a controller-less modem. |
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