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  #16  
Old November 8th 09, 05:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:30:17 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

CPU speed and internal cache are important if we're dealing with
such ancient hardware.


Amount of RAM is far more important.


Sorry. You can't simply dismiss CPU type or clock speed and say it's
less important than installed ram.

If you optimize XP (remove a lot of running services and do a few other
things) then you can run XP on 256 mb. It helps if you have a fast hard
drive and controller, and AGP-4x or faster video.

But the CPU can be a show-stopper even with 512 mb or 1 gb of memory.

I don't care how much ram you have - XP on anything less than an 800 mh
P-3 will be a dog.




Sorry, but I disagree with both of you. What hardware you need for
acceptable performance depends very greatly on what apps you run.

My wife is a perfect example. She used to run Windows XP on an
extremely low-power machine--a 400MHz CPU with 256MB of RAM. She was
completely satisfied with its performance and turned me down whenever
I proposed upgrading it for her.

Why was she satisfied with such a low-power machine? Because all she
did was e-mail, an occasional web search, and solitaire (and *very*
occasionally created a simple word processing document). And I know
several other people with very light computer use who are also
satisfied with low-power machines.

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  #17  
Old November 8th 09, 11:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Greg
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:05:40 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:30:17 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote:

CPU speed and internal cache are important if we're dealing with
such ancient hardware.

Amount of RAM is far more important.


Sorry. You can't simply dismiss CPU type or clock speed and say it's
less important than installed ram.

If you optimize XP (remove a lot of running services and do a few other
things) then you can run XP on 256 mb. It helps if you have a fast hard
drive and controller, and AGP-4x or faster video.

But the CPU can be a show-stopper even with 512 mb or 1 gb of memory.

I don't care how much ram you have - XP on anything less than an 800 mh
P-3 will be a dog.




Sorry, but I disagree with both of you. What hardware you need for
acceptable performance depends very greatly on what apps you run.

My wife is a perfect example. She used to run Windows XP on an
extremely low-power machine--a 400MHz CPU with 256MB of RAM. She was
completely satisfied with its performance and turned me down whenever
I proposed upgrading it for her.

Why was she satisfied with such a low-power machine? Because all she
did was e-mail, an occasional web search, and solitaire (and *very*
occasionally created a simple word processing document). And I know
several other people with very light computer use who are also
satisfied with low-power machines.



I agree.

The reason for a PCI graphic card, was my onboard video card was
acting up. (I know it is a sign of my motherboard going bad. I
just hope it can hold up tell tax time).

I really like this system.


Greg


  #18  
Old November 9th 09, 12:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Greg
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)


The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.


I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had on-board
processors and did all the communication work themselves, as opposed to
controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the
ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing with a
controller-less modem.


Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does not
in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp didn't
reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series



Greg
  #19  
Old November 9th 09, 12:40 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
98 Guy
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

Greg wrote:

The reason for a PCI graphic card, was my onboard video card
was acting up. (I know it is a sign of my motherboard going
bad. I just hope it can hold up tell tax time).


What motherboard with ISA slots has on-board video???
  #20  
Old November 9th 09, 12:45 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Franc Zabkar
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy put finger to
keyboard and composed:

I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.


PCtel made a PnP ISA HSP (softmodem) chipset (PCT288I):
http://www.modemsite.com/56K/pctel.asp

They were used in Commwave/Multiwave ISA modems.

Here is a datasheet:
http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf-...-308/16942.pdf

- Franc Zabkar
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  #21  
Old November 9th 09, 12:52 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
BillW50
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

In ,
Greg typed on Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:00:02 -0500:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)

The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.


I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had
on-board processors and did all the communication work themselves,
as opposed to controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all
PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the
ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing
with a controller-less modem.


Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does not
in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp didn't
reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series


Virtually all non-RS-232 modems are WinModems and requires the
manufactures driver before Windows will see it.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2


  #22  
Old November 9th 09, 02:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
98 Guy
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

Franc Zabkar wrote:

I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.


PCtel made a PnP ISA HSP (softmodem) chipset (PCT288I):
http://www.modemsite.com/56K/pctel.asp

They were used in Commwave/Multiwave ISA modems.

Here is a datasheet:


You will note that in the data sheet, it says that:

"PCMCIA or PnP (for 8/16 bit ISA) requires additional PCMCIA
interface or PnP chip."

The PCT288I itself does not contain a host-bus interface. So we (I)
will need to see evidence that this chip made it to a consumer product
in the form of an ISA-bus card.

This might be relevant:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Multiw...em.-a020489847

If I read this correctly, this press release seems to mark the first
time that a controller-less modem from Multiwave became available for
general sale. Note that it is a PCI card:

---------------
FREMONT, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 15, 1998--Multiwave Innovation
announced the introduction of the CommWave 56k PCI

The new modem is designed with the best-of-class modem chipset from
Lucent Technologies Microelectronics Group which has won numerous
awards.

CommWave 56k PCI modem is the next generation of Digital Signal
Processor-based modem solutions. Its high level of integration creates
an ultra-low-cost, high performance, low power, full-featured modem
utilizing minimum CPU CPU
in full central processing unit

The integrated PCI interface allows it to have greater access to host PC
system resources. In conjunction with the host PC, it implements K56flex
technology, with which PC users can achieve Internet connection rates up
to 56kbits/sec with backward compatibility.
------------------
  #23  
Old November 9th 09, 03:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
MEB[_2_]
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

Greg wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)
The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.

I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had on-board
processors and did all the communication work themselves, as opposed to
controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the
ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing with a
controller-less modem.


Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does not
in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp didn't
reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series

Greg


Greg, I gave you the ATI commands so you could find out exactly what
this modem is, firmware, etc.. It might help to solve your issues if you
were to provide the group with that information, and would certainly end
the debate on controllerless or not, and what potential software you
might need.

It sure would help to know..

--
MEB
http://peoplescounsel.org/ref/windows-main.htm
Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
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  #24  
Old November 9th 09, 06:27 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Bill in Co.
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Greg typed on Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:00:02 -0500:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)

The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.

I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had
on-board processors and did all the communication work themselves,
as opposed to controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all
PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the
ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing
with a controller-less modem.


Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does not
in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp didn't
reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series


Virtually all non-RS-232 modems are WinModems and requires the
manufactures driver before Windows will see it.


But wouldn't there be some advantage to replacing a WinModem with one that
had a built-in controller to do all the processing (assuming they were still
available? I gather they are not (in a PCI card) from what you're saying.

Or is it that at this point in time, the overall difference wouldn't even be
noticeable on the current systems? Like maybe the "performance hit" would
only be noticeable on some really old and slow CPUs (like a 100 or 200 MHz)?


  #25  
Old November 9th 09, 06:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Greg
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:43:49 -0500, MEB
wrote:


Greg wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)
The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.
I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had on-board
processors and did all the communication work themselves, as opposed to
controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the
ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing with a
controller-less modem.


Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does not
in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp didn't
reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series

Greg


Greg, I gave you the ATI commands so you could find out exactly what
this modem is, firmware, etc.. It might help to solve your issues if you
were to provide the group with that information, and would certainly end
the debate on controllerless or not, and what potential software you
might need.

It sure would help to know..


MEB., That reply was for 98guy. Not you.



To All,
My computer specs again.
5 drive bays.
2 Memory slots-on board
P3 500 mhz cpu
5 pci slots or 4 pci slots and 1 agp slot.
2 ISA slots
Two USB 1.0/1.1-on board slots
One printer port -on board slots
Two serial ports-on board slots
One ps2 keyboard port-on board slot
One ps2 mouse port on-board slot
On board sound cards (Still works but using the ISA sound card, I
bought for dos game compatibility)


Trying to the fix the confusion.
My previous modem was a pci modem. Which worked fine until it quit
and it was a winmodem as well.

The modem, I am using now, is an ISA modem. This is only temporary.
Tell my pci modem comes in. Hopefully, with drivers for both 98se
and xp.

I will possible keep the isa modem installed, because it works with
puppy Linux.


Greg


  #26  
Old November 9th 09, 08:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Franc Zabkar
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 20:58:21 -0500, 98 Guy put finger to
keyboard and composed:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.


PCtel made a PnP ISA HSP (softmodem) chipset (PCT288I):
http://www.modemsite.com/56K/pctel.asp

They were used in Commwave/Multiwave ISA modems.

Here is a datasheet:


You will note that in the data sheet, it says that:

"PCMCIA or PnP (for 8/16 bit ISA) requires additional PCMCIA
interface or PnP chip."

The PCT288I itself does not contain a host-bus interface. So we (I)
will need to see evidence that this chip made it to a consumer product
in the form of an ISA-bus card.


AISI, the datasheet shows that the PCT288I does contain an interface
to the "PC Bus". Only the PnP functionality would need to be provided
by additional silicon. In fact I have a 56K Dynalink ISA modem with a
Rockwell/Conexant ACF2 chipset that can be jumpered for PnP mode or
non-PnP mode. It has a datapump, controller, RAM, OTPROM, and an
additional chip specifically for negotiating PnP.

This might be relevant:

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Multiw...em.-a020489847

If I read this correctly, this press release seems to mark the first
time that a controller-less modem from Multiwave became available for
general sale. Note that it is a PCI card:

---------------
FREMONT, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--April 15, 1998--Multiwave Innovation
announced the introduction of the CommWave 56k PCI


Here is Multiwave's archived news page (09 Jan 1998):
http://web.archive.org/web/199807041...e.com/news.htm

New Product, October 1997:

"CommWave 56K PnP Internal modem -- the K56Flex compatible ISA
SoftModem for Windows 95 is now available for USA and most Asia
countries."

The following is a single-chip 56K ISA softmodem. Even the DSP is
emulated by the host, so this modem has less silicon than even a
controllerless modem.

Drivers for V.90/K56Flex ISA 56K HSP PnP and PCMCIA v7.55 Released :
27 October 98:
http://web.archive.org/web/199902080...multiwave.com/

MULTIWAVE INNOVATION, INC COMMWAVE 56K PNP (REV.1.0):
http://stason.org/TULARC/pc/modems-t...s-asynchr.html

Tech specs for CommWave CW56K HSP modem:
http://web.archive.org/web/199812052...d_cw56khsp.htm

"Full ISA Intel's Plug-n-Play"

"Single-Chip Host Signal Processing (HSP) ASIC"

"No redundant high speed chipsets such as Data Pump (or DSP), UART,
SRAM and ROM found in most high speed data/fax modem board"

- Franc Zabkar
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  #27  
Old November 9th 09, 01:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
MEB[_2_]
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Greg wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:43:49 -0500, MEB
wrote:

Greg wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)
The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.
I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had on-board
processors and did all the communication work themselves, as opposed to
controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the
ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing with a
controller-less modem.
Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does not
in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp didn't
reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series

Greg

Greg, I gave you the ATI commands so you could find out exactly what
this modem is, firmware, etc.. It might help to solve your issues if you
were to provide the group with that information, and would certainly end
the debate on controllerless or not, and what potential software you
might need.

It sure would help to know..


MEB., That reply was for 98guy. Not you.



To All,
My computer specs again.
5 drive bays.
2 Memory slots-on board
P3 500 mhz cpu
5 pci slots or 4 pci slots and 1 agp slot.
2 ISA slots
Two USB 1.0/1.1-on board slots
One printer port -on board slots
Two serial ports-on board slots
One ps2 keyboard port-on board slot
One ps2 mouse port on-board slot
On board sound cards (Still works but using the ISA sound card, I
bought for dos game compatibility)


Trying to the fix the confusion.
My previous modem was a pci modem. Which worked fine until it quit
and it was a winmodem as well.

The modem, I am using now, is an ISA modem. This is only temporary.
Tell my pci modem comes in. Hopefully, with drivers for both 98se
and xp.

I will possible keep the isa modem installed, because it works with
puppy Linux.


Greg



Okay, Greg, continue to talk about it in THEORY, or supply what the
group actually needs, the MODEM device ID, firmware, etc., which comes
via running the ATI* commands which I provided using a terminal program.
The AT&V information would also be valuable. [those commands were shown
with a small i to avoid confusion with a 1]
Unless you're careful in your purchase, the new PCI modem will be
controllerless... perhaps you would like some suggestions on what to
potentially look for, for cross-platform compatibility, or have you
already purchased the new modem?

--
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Windows Info, Diagnostics, Security, Networking
http://peoplescounsel.org
The "real world" of Law, Justice, and Government
___---
  #28  
Old November 9th 09, 03:21 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
98 Guy
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

Franc Zabkar wrote:

In fact I have a 56K Dynalink ISA modem with a Rockwell/Conexant
ACF2 chipset that can be jumpered for PnP mode or non-PnP mode.
It has a datapump, controller, RAM, OTPROM, and an additional
chip specifically for negotiating PnP.


Let's get a handle on the types of modems. There a

- Softmodems or winmodems (aka full softmodems)
- controller-based modems (aka hardware modems)
- controller-less modems (aka half-soft modems)

Softmodems do not have a DPU (Data Pump Unit) which contains the
DSP-Digital Signal Processor and they also lack an MCU (on-board
microprocessor control unit). These are the dumbest and cheapest
modems, and put the highest load on the PC's CPU. They will not
function under DOS. These are the modems that you will not find in
ISA-bus format. PCTel, ESS, Conexant Soft56K, HSF, U.S. Robotics 5670
are all softmodems.

Winmodem is a trade-name owned by US Robotics. It's their terminology
for what is essentially a softmodem. Legally, other companies could not
call their product a "Winmodem". US Robotics stopped using the term
"Winmodem" at some point for their controller-based modems because many
people always equated "winmodem" with "softmodem".

Controller-based modems have both the DPU and MCU built-in. All
external modems that connect to a computer over a serial cable are full
controller-based modems. It is RARE to find a full controller-based
hardware modem in PCI or PCIe format. The U.S. Robotics 5610 is a
controller based PCI internal fax modem.

Controller-less modems have a DPU but hand off the controller functions
to the PC's cpu. From a performace point of view, this is much better
than a full soft-modem because the most CPU-intensive data processing is
done by the modem's DPU.

If there ever were any full soft-modems made in ISA-bus format, then
they must have been pathetic in operation because the performance of the
ISA bus was poor relative to the data transfer that needed to be done,
and the 16-bit ISA bus would be highly inefficient for a 32-bit OS or
driver, as it would have to constantly thunking up and down.

New Product, October 1997:

"CommWave 56K PnP Internal modem -- the K56Flex compatible ISA
SoftModem for Windows 95 is now available for USA and most Asia
countries."


Must have been a piece-of-**** in operation.

My guess is that ISA-based full softmodems were a short-lived phenomena.
  #29  
Old November 9th 09, 03:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
BillW50
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In ,
Bill in Co. typed on Sun, 8 Nov 2009 22:27:10 -0700:
BillW50 wrote:
In ,
Greg typed on Sun, 08 Nov 2009 18:00:02 -0500:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)

The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.

I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had
on-board processors and did all the communication work themselves,
as opposed to controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all
PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize
the ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of
dealing with a controller-less modem.

Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does
not in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp
didn't reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series


Virtually all non-RS-232 modems are WinModems and requires the
manufactures driver before Windows will see it.


But wouldn't there be some advantage to replacing a WinModem with one
that had a built-in controller to do all the processing (assuming
they were still available? I gather they are not (in a PCI card)
from what you're saying.
Or is it that at this point in time, the overall difference wouldn't
even be noticeable on the current systems? Like maybe the
"performance hit" would only be noticeable on some really old and
slow CPUs (like a 100 or 200 MHz)?


"98 Guy" explained it better than I could. And I used WinModems back
then and while people claimed that WinModems used a lot of CPU power, I
never saw much of a performance difference.

--
Bill
Gateway MX6124 ('06 era) - Windows XP SP2


  #30  
Old November 9th 09, 05:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.win98.gen_discussion,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Greg
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Default modem question and modem string wanted

On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 07:56:46 -0500, MEB
wrote:

Greg wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:43:49 -0500, MEB
wrote:

Greg wrote:
On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:08:56 -0500, 98 Guy wrote:

Franc Zabkar wrote:

98se and puppy Linux live cd does recognize my ISA modem
(cl-md56xx cirrus logic)
The xx is important. Some 56xx modems were controllerless,
others had a hardware controller.
I'm fairly certain that _no_ ISA-based modems were controllerless.

The best modems were in fact ISA-based, because they always had on-board
processors and did all the communication work themselves, as opposed to
controller-less modems (which as a rule were are all PCI-based modems).

The OP is advised to remove the PCI modem and get XP to recognize the
ISA modem. His anemic system doesn't need extra load of dealing with a
controller-less modem.
Controller-less modems work fine. It is the ISA modem that does not
in xp. I tried everything (Short of reinstalling xp). xp didn't
reorganized the modem.

My system is a Compaq desktop ep pro series

Greg
Greg, I gave you the ATI commands so you could find out exactly what
this modem is, firmware, etc.. It might help to solve your issues if you
were to provide the group with that information, and would certainly end
the debate on controllerless or not, and what potential software you
might need.

It sure would help to know..


MEB., That reply was for 98guy. Not you.



To All,
My computer specs again.
5 drive bays.
2 Memory slots-on board
P3 500 mhz cpu
5 pci slots or 4 pci slots and 1 agp slot.
2 ISA slots
Two USB 1.0/1.1-on board slots
One printer port -on board slots
Two serial ports-on board slots
One ps2 keyboard port-on board slot
One ps2 mouse port on-board slot
On board sound cards (Still works but using the ISA sound card, I
bought for dos game compatibility)


Trying to the fix the confusion.
My previous modem was a pci modem. Which worked fine until it quit
and it was a winmodem as well.

The modem, I am using now, is an ISA modem. This is only temporary.
Tell my pci modem comes in. Hopefully, with drivers for both 98se
and xp.

I will possible keep the isa modem installed, because it works with
puppy Linux.


Greg



Okay, Greg, continue to talk about it in THEORY, or supply what the
group actually needs, the MODEM device ID, firmware, etc., which comes
via running the ATI* commands which I provided using a terminal program.
The AT&V information would also be valuable. [those commands were shown
with a small i to avoid confusion with a 1]
Unless you're careful in your purchase, the new PCI modem will be
controllerless... perhaps you would like some suggestions on what to
potentially look for, for cross-platform compatibility, or have you
already purchased the new modem?



Your confusing the issue and me.

I already ordered the pci modem, it suppose to have driver for both
98se and xp.

On the ISA modem, I am using, it is temporary for 98se.

The reason I want the string, there is no volume control for this
modem in 98se. (Yes, I looked, grey out)

The other reasons, it was not showing the DTE speed.

You could of been simple and said put this string in like this

AT+W2 L0

Greg





 




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