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glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: Please show us any credible evidence that any Linux Live CD (not a Linux hard drive installation) uses the Windows swap file on the hard drive. The swap file is OS-dependent in the first place, and the Live CDs don't use the hard drive for anything by default. In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: Please show us any credible evidence that any Linux Live CD (not a Linux hard drive installation) uses the Windows swap file on the hard drive. The swap file is OS-dependent in the first place, and the Live CDs don't use the hard drive for anything by default. Yeah I know ignorant people won't believe it no matter what anybody says. So what is the point? But intelligent people know this to be true. And one of them found here is Paul. And as far as I know, Paul doesn't see you as a troll that you are. So just ask him about it. But you probably won't believe Paul either, so what's the point? So, you don't have any evidence to support the claim, then. There you go again with your attitude, calling names when you can't back up a statement. All that proves is your own ignorance. Nope, far from it ignorant one. Even Paul knows better. But keep your head in the sand, who the hell cares what you do? If you're so effing smart, why can't you give even one citation to back up your claim? Instead you put it off onto someone who isn't even involved in the thread and has not made your claim. You made a claim with nothing to support it (again) and when you are asked to show the proof of your claim, you start name calling (again), and have nothing to offer. Pathetic. Yes I know ignorant people like yourself won't believe. But I know how it really happens and are more than willing to show anybody who wants to learn the same thing. But it is common for ignorant people like yourself to act this way. snip Yeah, right.... you would be happy to show us except you won't. I have many times in the past. You have not supplied any evidence at all, despite more than one person in this thread asking for it. Anybody with half a brain can check the archives. As for Paul, he has chimed into this thread and he hasn't backed your claim either.... quite the opposite. Paul may not recall, but I do. Paul is one of the more intelligent people that I know here. I trust him far more than I trust people like you. I'm sorry but you are being the ignorant person once again. I asked nicely for some proof of your claim at the onset, and you've blathered without supplying one iota of proof or documentation of the claim. Enjoy yourself proclaiming your "superiority" to everyone else here.... sadly you are proving otherwise. I said it many times in the past and it means nothing. Saying it again will also mean nothing no doubt to stupid people like yourself. But it has been all documented in the past and in the archives. Thus why should I repeatedly repeat myself when stupid people keep asking for the same things over and over again? -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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"BillW50" wrote in message
... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: Please show us any credible evidence that any Linux Live CD (not a Linux hard drive installation) uses the Windows swap file on the hard drive. The swap file is OS-dependent in the first place, and the Live CDs don't use the hard drive for anything by default. In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: "BillW50" wrote in message ... In , glee typed: Please show us any credible evidence that any Linux Live CD (not a Linux hard drive installation) uses the Windows swap file on the hard drive. The swap file is OS-dependent in the first place, and the Live CDs don't use the hard drive for anything by default. Yeah I know ignorant people won't believe it no matter what anybody says. So what is the point? But intelligent people know this to be true. And one of them found here is Paul. And as far as I know, Paul doesn't see you as a troll that you are. So just ask him about it. But you probably won't believe Paul either, so what's the point? So, you don't have any evidence to support the claim, then. There you go again with your attitude, calling names when you can't back up a statement. All that proves is your own ignorance. Nope, far from it ignorant one. Even Paul knows better. But keep your head in the sand, who the hell cares what you do? If you're so effing smart, why can't you give even one citation to back up your claim? Instead you put it off onto someone who isn't even involved in the thread and has not made your claim. You made a claim with nothing to support it (again) and when you are asked to show the proof of your claim, you start name calling (again), and have nothing to offer. Pathetic. Yes I know ignorant people like yourself won't believe. But I know how it really happens and are more than willing to show anybody who wants to learn the same thing. But it is common for ignorant people like yourself to act this way. snip Yeah, right.... you would be happy to show us except you won't. I have many times in the past. You have not supplied any evidence at all, despite more than one person in this thread asking for it. Anybody with half a brain can check the archives. As for Paul, he has chimed into this thread and he hasn't backed your claim either.... quite the opposite. Paul may not recall, but I do. Paul is one of the more intelligent people that I know here. I trust him far more than I trust people like you. I'm sorry but you are being the ignorant person once again. I asked nicely for some proof of your claim at the onset, and you've blathered without supplying one iota of proof or documentation of the claim. Enjoy yourself proclaiming your "superiority" to everyone else here.... sadly you are proving otherwise. I said it many times in the past and it means nothing. Saying it again will also mean nothing no doubt to stupid people like yourself. But it has been all documented in the past and in the archives. Thus why should I repeatedly repeat myself when stupid people keep asking for the same things over and over again? Oh get over yourself. I HAVE looked in archives and all that has shown up so far is your own statement, with no proof that the Live CD was even responsible, and no one supporting your claim that the Live CD writes to the hard drive by default in any circumstances. Now provide your "proof" and corroboration, or STFU. You keep stating Paul verified your finding that Linux Live CD with default settings wrote to your hard drive, that it uses the Windows swap file on the hard drive, etc. So, show this supposed verification! All you keep doing is calling everyone ignorant or stupid, who asks you to back up your claim.... not unlike many of the posts of yours I have come across in the archives, where you call posters who disagree with you "ignorant, stupid, liars, and frauds". The time you have spent here calling everyone who disagrees with you stupid, you could have already proven your claim.... but apparently you simply can't supply proof. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: I am pretty sure I still have what Paul supported what I said back in 2009. Although I didn't look for it and I am willing to dig for it and pull it out as a trump card if I have too. Put up or shut up. It must be a thorough test, it must show without doubt that a Linux Live boot changed data on the hard disk with no direction from you, and you must be able to reproduce the results. I don't even know what megalomania means. Look it up. |
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On Jun 9, 2:48*pm, "BillW50" wrote:
, Robert Macy typed: No, built-in CD Drive Oh that could be a huge problem. Did the machine originally have a built in optical drive? As I was working on a client's Alienware M9700 machine and it had the restore discs and the internal optical drive was bad. I was going to replace the drive, but I wanted to install Windows first to see what else was needed. So I hooked up an external USB drive and tried to install. And I ran into much of the same problems that you did. The retail versions of XP require SP2 or SP3 to install from USB. Earlier builds will not install. Although sadly, not all OEM versions will work correctly from USB, even if SP2 at least. I had to replace the internal DVD drive before I could get it to install. And it was XP SP2. And your problem sounds very much like what I had ran across. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2 This was the 'built-in' CD Drive. Just to check I swapped out to another drive, same symptom so I assumed problem not in reading the disk, nor in the drive itself. I went through and re-seated all the cabling to the disks, but that didn't seem to change things. I'm beginning to believe Glen Ventura's comments "WTF are you trying to use a 'sick' HD for?" That, coupled with summer heat here in AZ, I;m beginning to think the system, or the HD, doesn't like being non- office temperature 88 vs 66. Even in CA, we kept the office around 84+, which was difficult to do. |
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On Jun 9, 3:01*pm, "glee" wrote:
"BillW50" wrote in message ... In , Robert Macy typed: No, built-in CD Drive Oh that could be a huge problem. Did the machine originally have a built in optical drive? As I was working on a client's Alienware M9700 machine and it had the restore discs and the internal optical drive was bad. I was going to replace the drive, but I wanted to install Windows first to see what else was needed. So I hooked up an external USB drive and tried to install. And I ran into much of the same problems that you did. The retail versions of XP require SP2 or SP3 to install from USB. Earlier builds will not install. Although sadly, not all OEM versions will work correctly from USB, even if SP2 at least. I had to replace the internal DVD drive before I could get it to install. And it was XP SP2. And your problem sounds very much like what I had ran across. Put your reading glasses on! *Robert said "No COMMA built-in CD Drive", meaning No he isn't using a USB optical, he's using an internal optical. You are apparently reading it "No built-in CD Drive". *Punctuation is there for a reason. *Eats shoots and leaves... Eats, shoots, and leaves.. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP *Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ Lighten up! Someday curiosity will outstrip vanity and I'll wear my reading glasses more. I'm beginning to believe your comment about using the HD, but could be the driver chips on the motherboard, too. |
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Robert Macy wrote:
On Jun 9, 2:48 pm, "BillW50" wrote: , Robert Macy typed: No, built-in CD Drive Oh that could be a huge problem. Did the machine originally have a built in optical drive? As I was working on a client's Alienware M9700 machine and it had the restore discs and the internal optical drive was bad. I was going to replace the drive, but I wanted to install Windows first to see what else was needed. So I hooked up an external USB drive and tried to install. And I ran into much of the same problems that you did. The retail versions of XP require SP2 or SP3 to install from USB. Earlier builds will not install. Although sadly, not all OEM versions will work correctly from USB, even if SP2 at least. I had to replace the internal DVD drive before I could get it to install. And it was XP SP2. And your problem sounds very much like what I had ran across. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2 This was the 'built-in' CD Drive. Just to check I swapped out to another drive, same symptom so I assumed problem not in reading the disk, nor in the drive itself. I went through and re-seated all the cabling to the disks, but that didn't seem to change things. I'm beginning to believe Glen Ventura's comments "WTF are you trying to use a 'sick' HD for?" That, coupled with summer heat here in AZ, I;m beginning to think the system, or the HD, doesn't like being non- office temperature 88 vs 66. Even in CA, we kept the office around 84+, which was difficult to do. If that's the case, use HDTune (or any other utility that can check disk drive temperature), and verify you aren't actually running the hard drive at too high a temperature. For a number of years, hard drives have had a thermistor added to them, for temperature monitoring at the drive level. http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe Here is an example screenshot, showing the little temperature readout near the top of HDTune. This shows "30C", so musta been a summer day. http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8...scomposite.gif If the drive is showing higher than 50C, I'd be concerned. On some computer cases, the hard drive is in an air cooling "dead zone". If you expect to keep the hard drive running, it helps to arrange cooling air from outside, to blow on the hard drive. My current computer has a modification, to do just that. A fan mounted externally in an aluminum frame, blows through the hard drive slots. That helps my hard drive temperature, exactly track room temperature. (Because the hard drive cannot be heated up by other stuff inside the computer.) Operating FDB hard drive motors, at high temperatures, tends to force the lubricant out of them over time. And that can shorten the life of the drive. Of all the items inside the computer case, the hard drive temp is the one I take the most seriously. It's the one most at risk. Some commercial computer cases have that "what were they thinking" kind of air cooling system design inside. Which may occasionally need to be fixed to give decent performance. Sometimes the solution may be as simple, as moving the drive to one of the other storage trays, that gets more cooling. Paul |
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On Jun 10, 2:34*pm, Paul wrote:
Robert Macy wrote: On Jun 9, 2:48 pm, "BillW50" wrote: , Robert Macy typed: No, built-in CD Drive Oh that could be a huge problem. Did the machine originally have a built in optical drive? As I was working on a client's Alienware M9700 machine and it had the restore discs and the internal optical drive was bad. I was going to replace the drive, but I wanted to install Windows first to see what else was needed. So I hooked up an external USB drive and tried to install. And I ran into much of the same problems that you did. The retail versions of XP require SP2 or SP3 to install from USB. Earlier builds will not install. Although sadly, not all OEM versions will work correctly from USB, even if SP2 at least. I had to replace the internal DVD drive before I could get it to install. And it was XP SP2.. And your problem sounds very much like what I had ran across. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 2GB - Windows XP SP2 This was the 'built-in' CD Drive. Just to check I swapped out to another drive, same symptom so I assumed problem not in reading the disk, nor in the drive itself. *I went through and re-seated all the cabling to the disks, but that didn't seem to change things. I'm beginning to believe Glen Ventura's comments "WTF are you trying to use a 'sick' HD for?" *That, coupled with summer heat here in AZ, I;m beginning to think the system, or the HD, doesn't like being non- office temperature 88 vs 66. Even in CA, we kept the office around 84+, which was difficult to do. If that's the case, use HDTune (or any other utility that can check disk drive temperature), and verify you aren't actually running the hard drive at too high a temperature. For a number of years, hard drives have had a thermistor added to them, for temperature monitoring at the drive level. http://www.hdtune.com/files/hdtune_255.exe Here is an example screenshot, showing the little temperature readout near the top of HDTune. This shows "30C", so musta been a summer day. http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8...scomposite.gif If the drive is showing higher than 50C, I'd be concerned. On some computer cases, the hard drive is in an air cooling "dead zone". If you expect to keep the hard drive running, it helps to arrange cooling air from outside, to blow on the hard drive. My current computer has a modification, to do just that. A fan mounted externally in an aluminum frame, blows through the hard drive slots. That helps my hard drive temperature, exactly track room temperature. (Because the hard drive cannot be heated up by other stuff inside the computer.) Operating FDB hard drive motors, at high temperatures, tends to force the lubricant out of them over time. And that can shorten the life of the drive. Of all the items inside the computer case, the hard drive temp is the one I take the most seriously. It's the one most at risk. Some commercial computer cases have that "what were they thinking" kind of air cooling system design inside. Which may occasionally need to be fixed to give decent performance. Sometimes the solution may be as simple, as moving the drive to one of the other storage trays, that gets more cooling. * * Paul Thank you for that utility!Screenshot looks like it runs under WinXP. Hmmmm.....chicken/egg, cart/horse The HD is bolted tightly into the frame so that's the heat sink for it. Should track the temp of the chassis, but then again. Good idea to keep things cool every 10C shortens life by 2:1, at least statistically halves the MTBF. |
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"Robert Macy" wrote in message
... This was the 'built-in' CD Drive. Just to check I swapped out to another drive, same symptom so I assumed problem not in reading the disk, nor in the drive itself. I went through and re-seated all the cabling to the disks, but that didn't seem to change things. I'm beginning to believe Glen Ventura's comments "WTF are you trying to use a 'sick' HD for?" That, coupled with summer heat here in AZ, I;m beginning to think the system, or the HD, doesn't like being non- office temperature 88 vs 66. Even in CA, we kept the office around 84+, which was difficult to do. FYI... I didn't say "WTF".... I said something like Why on earth are you using a damaged drive for your system files. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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Nil wrote:
On 09 Jun 2012, Paul wrote in microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: He might be referring to "Wubi", but I can't be sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wubi_(Ubuntu_installer) If he is, he's talking about something completely different than everybody else is, even though the subject has been clarified several times. We've very specific about it being a "Live Linux" bootup disk, not an install-to-hard-disk situation. I've never used Wubi. I've installed Linux to its own partition, and that doesn't use Wubi. That uses the regular installer, and Windows would not be running at that time. I've got on computer running one of those Wubi installations, and Unbuntu is presented as a choice by Windows boot manager. This is my Linux play toy, not something I used day-to-day. Or, you can run Linux from the CD as a LiveCD. A LiveCD doesn't need to install anything, and distros like Knoppix, don't actually even encourage installation. Yes. That's what I've been trying to get across. I just tried setting up a Wubi based install here, and no dramatics. First, I had to pull the network cable, so Wubi would recognize the .iso file with the 700MB of install files on it (located in the same folder as wubi.exe). If you leave the network connected for the first phase, it instead starts the 700MB download for itself (with no confirmation of what version you want to install). I didn't want any installs with Unity, so dropped a 10.04LTS .iso file into my wubi folder. The wubi.exe was extracted from the .iso, with 7ZIP. It prepares a couple ~4GB files as storage space. I told it, it could have up to 8GB, and my Windows file system is FAT32. So it knew not to make containers larger than 4GB each. It made three containers (for loopback mounting) with its own division of labor for each one. It copies the files from the 700MB .iso, into one of the containers. Looks like the files are uncompressed at that point. Then, it reboots, and it has meddled with boot.ini, so the system is now dual-boot on one disk. I select Ubuntu from the Windows boot menu, and then the installer continues on with the installation. The installer at that point, could be the regular Ubuntu installer. The files then seem to be copied one more time, presumably from the uncompressed store that was created on the first pass. The usual unnecessary downloads from Ubuntu (stuff not on the CD), and after about 15 minutes of screwing around, it's done. I'd plugged the network cable back in, so the network would be available after the first reboot. On the next reboot, selecting ubuntu again from the Windows boot menu, it comes up in the 10.04LTS desktop (which is the file I located next to wubi.exe). The desktop seems to work. And the one partition I gave it (a precise copy of my normal WinXP partition), it has mounted the Windows file system as /host. So really, nothing bad happened. The wiki for the usage of wubi.exe, warns about "dirty shutdowns". It says people who become frustrated, and switch off the power to the computer in mid session, are their own worst enemy. The article also mentions you can go to "found.000" in Windows, and sometimes, your damaged Ubuntu containers can be found there. Since nothing froze or acted up during this short test, there were no fireworks to report. And no need to press the reset button or the like. I can think of a case, where "pressing of the reset button" would be a natural user response. Canonical was clever enough, on their servers, to turn off ICMP services. Leaving the servers with a "black hole" problem. Then, what happens is, the Ubuntu installer starts downloading additional packages from the Canonical servers, and the process gets stuck at exactly the same place each time. I had that problem with native installs to a separate hard drive. I found a thread with a ton of people complaining about the same thing. One contributer to the thread, types three words in his message "change your MTU", with no explanation or anything. OK, so I'm reading the thread, and considering all the possibilities. And after about another ten minutes of reading, it dawns on me "Oh, ****, a black hole problem...". That's what the "change your MTU" contribution meant. I've dealt with that once before, and changing the MTU did indeed allow the install to finish. Now, if you were in "WUBI country", and that bug came up, then what would you do ? The thing is stuck, you need to escape, everything is dead (because the kernel is deadlocked at that point). Not even control-alt-delete works. On a native file system install, no problem, your ext4 probably needs cleaning on the next reboot, or if like me, you restart the install, you've probably formatted the thing again anyway. So no damage done. But if you were doing that from WUBI and that happened, now the damage could be to the Windows file system (as a dirty shutdown). Either the file system, or the containers being used by WUBI, would be candidates for damage. And no way for me to predict, how likely that would be. So that's the only exposure that comes to mind. The "black hole" problem had been around for a while (complaint thread was super-long). Anyway, I didn't get stuck, so I presume there isn't a black hole exposure if you're installing 10.04LTS (which is apparently still supported package-manager wise, until some time in 2013?). Since Canonical has more than one server for things like this, it's really hard for me to guess which server had the problem, and causes the install process to deadlock. Paul |
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On Jun 10, 9:04*pm, "glee" wrote:
"Robert Macy" wrote in message ... This was the 'built-in' CD Drive. Just to check I swapped out to another drive, same symptom so I assumed problem not in reading the disk, nor in the drive itself. *I went through and re-seated all the cabling to the disks, but that didn't seem to change things. I'm beginning to believe Glen Ventura's comments "WTF are you trying to use a 'sick' HD for?" *That, coupled with summer heat here in AZ, I;m beginning to think the system, or the HD, doesn't like being non- office temperature 88 vs 66. Even in CA, we kept the office around 84+, which was difficult to do. FYI... I didn't say "WTF".... I said something like Why on earth are you using a damaged drive for your system files. -- Glen Ventura MS MVP *Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ APOLOGIES!!! Your EXACT comment was, "Why on earth would you install Windows on the faulty drive in the first place??" I think that upon reading your comment I chided myself and attributed my own words to your sentiment. As I read your comment, came to mind: during my private pilot days, one day when I went out with my instructor for some specific new training, during run-up just before take off, the engine stalled, spluttered, and then ran again ok. I finished the run up and started out onto the runway for takeoff and my instructor startled I went to runway NOT to taxiway, said, "You weren't really planning on taking off were you?" as we taxiied back to the hangars for the mechanics to find out why the engine had faltered. Using a faltering HD means is less risky. |
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"Robert Macy" wrote in message
... On Jun 10, 9:04 pm, "glee" wrote: snip FYI... I didn't say "WTF".... I said something like Why on earth are you using a damaged drive for your system files. APOLOGIES!!! Your EXACT comment was, "Why on earth would you install Windows on the faulty drive in the first place??" I think that upon reading your comment I chided myself and attributed my own words to your sentiment. As I read your comment, came to mind: during my private pilot days, one day when I went out with my instructor for some specific new training, during run-up just before take off, the engine stalled, spluttered, and then ran again ok. I finished the run up and started out onto the runway for takeoff and my instructor startled I went to runway NOT to taxiway, said, "You weren't really planning on taking off were you?" as we taxiied back to the hangars for the mechanics to find out why the engine had faltered. Using a faltering HD means is less risky. WTF! lol... -- Glen Ventura MS MVP Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ |
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On Jun 11, 12:51*pm, "glee" wrote:
"Robert Macy" wrote in message ... On Jun 10, 9:04 pm, "glee" wrote: snip FYI... I didn't say "WTF".... I said something like Why on earth are you using a damaged drive for your system files. APOLOGIES!!! Your EXACT comment was, "Why on earth would you install Windows on the faulty drive in the first place??" I think that upon reading your comment I chided myself and attributed my own words to your sentiment. As I read your comment, came to mind: during my private pilot days, one day when I went out with my instructor for some specific new training, during run-up just before take off, the engine stalled, spluttered, and then ran again ok. I finished the run up and started out onto the runway for takeoff and my instructor startled I went to runway NOT to taxiway, said, "You weren't really planning on taking off were you?" as we taxiied back to the hangars for the mechanics to find out why the engine had faltered. *Using a faltering HD means is less risky. WTF! *lol... -- Glen Ventura MS MVP *Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ yes, and 'F' stands for 'fondue' |
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On Jun 11, 12:51*pm, "glee" wrote:
"Robert Macy" wrote in message ... On Jun 10, 9:04 pm, "glee" wrote: snip FYI... I didn't say "WTF".... I said something like Why on earth are you using a damaged drive for your system files. APOLOGIES!!! Your EXACT comment was, "Why on earth would you install Windows on the faulty drive in the first place??" I think that upon reading your comment I chided myself and attributed my own words to your sentiment. As I read your comment, came to mind: during my private pilot days, one day when I went out with my instructor for some specific new training, during run-up just before take off, the engine stalled, spluttered, and then ran again ok. I finished the run up and started out onto the runway for takeoff and my instructor startled I went to runway NOT to taxiway, said, "You weren't really planning on taking off were you?" as we taxiied back to the hangars for the mechanics to find out why the engine had faltered. *Using a faltering HD means is less risky. WTF! *lol... -- Glen Ventura MS MVP *Oct. 2002 - Sept. 2009 CompTIA A+ Failed same way ?? again today comes up saying missing \system This time I ran Scandisk on both C: and E: with no errors, but after running that the CD seemed to be happier, this time the CD got all the way to the repair console, but asked for number of installation ?! What is that?! It's the installation that failed, the one I'm using, what does the 'number' of the installation mean? just hitting enter with blank response did nothing. |
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Robert Macy wrote:
Failed same way ?? again today comes up saying missing \system This time I ran Scandisk on both C: and E: with no errors, but after running that the CD seemed to be happier, this time the CD got all the way to the repair console, but asked for number of installation ?! What is that?! It's the installation that failed, the one I'm using, what does the 'number' of the installation mean? just hitting enter with blank response did nothing. The repair disc scans for OS installations. If it sees more than one with the right ingredients, it will show them in a menu. To give an example, I have WinXP on one disk, and Win2K on the other disk. If I insert the WinXP CD and fire up the repair console, it will scan and find both installs, and ask me to type a number to select the correct one. Trouble is, there is no external information to specify which is which. You can't rely on the "drive letter" it uses. 1) C:\Blah 2) D:\Blah I have a 50:50 chance of typing the correct number. The right answer in my case, might have been "2", even though the install is called "C:" when that OS is running. After you make the selection, you'll be asked for the administrator password. Since my two installs have different passwords, that's how I can ensure the correct one is selected. If the password doesn't work, it means I selected the wrong one. If I select the wrong one, I end up rebooting and trying again. The tool is dumb - it doesn't know what failed. It doesn't even know the difference between WinXP and Win2K. It's up to you to guess which is which, and enter the correct administrator password. Paul |
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Original CD won't 'restore' system ??
On Jun 13, 1:30*pm, Paul wrote:
Robert Macy wrote: Failed same way ?? again today *comes up saying missing \system This time I ran Scandisk on both C: and E: with no errors, but after running that the CD seemed to be happier, this time the CD got all the way to the repair console, but asked for number of installation ?! What is that?! *It's the installation that failed, the one I'm using, what does the 'number' of the installation mean? just hitting enter with blank response did nothing. The repair disc scans for OS installations. If it sees more than one with the right ingredients, it will show them in a menu. To give an example, I have WinXP on one disk, and Win2K on the other disk.. If I insert the WinXP CD and fire up the repair console, it will scan and find both installs, and ask me to type a number to select the correct one.. Trouble is, there is no external information to specify which is which. You can't rely on the "drive letter" it uses. 1) C:\Blah 2) D:\Blah I have a 50:50 chance of typing the correct number. The right answer in my case, might have been "2", even though the install is called "C:" when that OS is running. After you make the selection, you'll be asked for the administrator password. Since my two installs have different passwords, that's how I can ensure the correct one is selected. If the password doesn't work, it means I selected the wrong one. If I select the wrong one, I end up rebooting and trying again. The tool is dumb - it doesn't know what failed. It doesn't even know the difference between WinXP and Win2K. It's up to you to guess which is which, and enter the correct administrator password. * * Paul AFter running scandisk and leaving the info in the drives, it went further and listed the ONLY install WinXP Professional etc, then hung after I selected it. didn't go any more. Ok, frustration, put in Win98 boot disk and reformatted the C: drive, did scandisk /surface on BOTH C: and E: came up perfect. install WinXP, and it hung at the F8, I accept the agreement... screen.!! Ok boot up, reformat C: run scandiskc -perfect and this time got past install WinXP, accept agreemtn where to install, leave memory intact, and THEN it hung. Ok go back and install Win98, works great. using the same CD Drive. I can't believe the WinXP CD has gone bad. just keps hanging at or near the start. Is there any possiblity that the RAM is intermittent, or bad in some critical location? |
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