Win XP & Norton Internet Security

I have "Norton Internet Security 2012"
I am trying to find out a version called 2013 and puzzled to see quite a few
items
Starting from £19.99 to £29.99 but none of them have a version maked as
"Norton
Internet Security 2013 for PCs 3"
Some are advertised as "Norton Internet Security 21 - 3"
But the images/photos advertised are as "Norton Internet Security" These
may be coming
out from crooks???
Any user of NIS, please help me to identify the version for 2013?
Any help is appreciated.

On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 13:45:45 -0000, "AAH" wrote:

I have "Norton Internet Security 2012"
I am trying to find out a version called 2013 and puzzled to see quite a few
items
Starting from £19.99 to £29.99 but none of them have a version maked as
"Norton
Internet Security 2013 for PCs 3"
Some are advertised as "Norton Internet Security 21 - 3"
But the images/photos advertised are as "Norton Internet Security" These
may be coming
out from crooks???
Any user of NIS, please help me to identify the version for 2013?
Any help is appreciated.

Have you tried the Symantec web site?

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AAH wrote:

I have "Norton Internet Security 2012"
I am trying to find out a version called 2013 and puzzled to see quite a few
items
Starting from £19.99 to £29.99 but none of them have a version maked as
"Norton
Internet Security 2013 for PCs 3"
Some are advertised as "Norton Internet Security 21 - 3"
But the images/photos advertised are as "Norton Internet Security" These
may be coming
out from crooks???
Any user of NIS, please help me to identify the version for 2013?
Any help is appreciated.


/rant/
Using the year as the version name has been a long mistake. I think
Microsoft started it in 1995 when they named their product Windows 95.
Then everyone else had to use a year in their product's name or as its
version number. In fact, often the year is part of only the product
*name* but that product has its own separate version number. Sometimes
companies tire of putting a year in the product's name. It makes users
think a product is outdated if, for example, the product has no changes
nor does it need any changes in over 2, or more, years.

That year stamping in the product title is how marketers spur customers
into buying the next version. Going from 11.01.8.483 to 11.02.4.112
isn't going to make users think, gee, there's a new version that they
just must have now. But when its 2014 and the product's name is "We
Cheat 'Em & How 2011" then users feel they have old crap and need to get
the new shiny stuff.

Companies will switch back and forth between using the version number or
year stamp in a product's title. One year it's GoofyDraw 9, the next
it's GoofyDraw 2011, the next it's GoofyDraw Ultra, the next it's
whatever they want to disconnect you from visualizing the version
history. They're just screwing with you so you don't know what is the
current version, how old is the one you have, and try to get you to buy
whatever they're now selling.
/rant/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Internet_Security

Well, the product could be referenced as version 2014 (using the
product's title instead of the actual version number) or by its real
version number of 21.0. Either way refers to the same build of the
product. They're selling it. You're supposed to know what you want to
buy. If they were selling version 16.0 (and probably at a big discount)
then you're supposed to know if that's what you want. They're selling
an old version, they're not going to splash aloud that it's old because
they want a sale, and they figure you know you buying an old version to
get that big discount.

There are sites that will sell old versions (e.g., viosoftware.com)
because buyers can get a discount. There you could pay $302 for the
latest MS Office 2013 Pro or, if you don't need all the new bells and
new whistles and don't want a ribbon bar, you could buy MS Office 2003
Pro for $101. The users don't always need all the newest features and
are satisifed with less features in an old version that costs less
money. You decide what you want to buy. They're just selling you a
choice [to get an old version] depending on how much you want to spend.

While the MS Office example is easy to figure out that you're getting an
old version at a discount (except back when Microsoft called it Office
XP instead of Office 2002), it's not always clear which is old and new.
Is Acronis TrueImage 2009 older or newer than Acronis TrueImage 11? See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Image for an answer.

AAH wrote:
I have "Norton Internet Security 2012"
I am trying to find out a version called 2013 and puzzled to see quite a few
items
Starting from £19.99 to £29.99 but none of them have a version maked as
"Norton
Internet Security 2013 for PCs 3"
Some are advertised as "Norton Internet Security 21 - 3"
But the images/photos advertised are as "Norton Internet Security" These
may be coming
out from crooks???
Any user of NIS, please help me to identify the version for 2013?
Any help is appreciated.

I could get a copy here, if I needed one. Regular $79.99 CDN,
now $29.99. The reason it is this cheap, is the current version is 2014, not 2013.
This would be an older version.

http://www.canadacomputers.com/produ...item_id=054027

Paul

"AAH" wrote in message
...
I have "Norton Internet Security 2012"
I am trying to find out a version called 2013 and puzzled to see quite a
few items
Starting from £19.99 to £29.99 but none of them have a version maked as
"Norton
Internet Security 2013 for PCs 3"
Some are advertised as "Norton Internet Security 21 - 3"
But the images/photos advertised are as "Norton Internet Security" These
may be coming
out from crooks???
Any user of NIS, please help me to identify the version for 2013?
Any help is appreciated.


.....someone said Norton Internet Security !

....known nowadays as Norton BLOATWARE ! Fine if you don't want to run
anything else on your PC,
otherwise, hunt down an internet security suite that's much less heavy on
system resources :-)

regards, Richard

On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:31:55 -0600, VanguardLH
wrote:

/rant/
Using the year as the version name has been a long mistake. I think
Microsoft started it in 1995 when they named their product Windows 95.
Then everyone else had to use a year in their product's name or as its
version number. In fact, often the year is part of only the product
*name* but that product has its own separate version number. Sometimes
companies tire of putting a year in the product's name. It makes users
think a product is outdated if, for example, the product has no changes
nor does it need any changes in over 2, or more, years.

That year stamping in the product title is how marketers spur customers
into buying the next version. Going from 11.01.8.483 to 11.02.4.112
isn't going to make users think, gee, there's a new version that they
just must have now. But when its 2014 and the product's name is "We
Cheat 'Em & How 2011" then users feel they have old crap and need to get
the new shiny stuff.

Snip
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Internet_Security

Well, the product could be referenced as version 2014 (using the
product's title instead of the actual version number) or by its real
version number of 21.0. Either way refers to the same build of the
product. They're selling it. You're supposed to know what you want to
buy. If they were selling version 16.0 (and probably at a big discount)
then you're supposed to know if that's what you want. They're selling
an old version, they're not going to splash aloud that it's old because
they want a sale, and they figure you know you buying an old version to
get that big discount.

Snip

In years past, a new annual Norton Internet Security appeared for
sale in the middle of September. This year, Symantec stopped
putting the year in the title of the software. Some resellers,
like Frys.com, have ignored the lack of a year on the box and
called it "NIS 2014." See
http://www.frys.com/product/7825019?...H:MAIN_RSLT_PG
as an example of Frys.com saying "2014" when the box does not.

I installed NIS 2013 in November 2012. I renewed my subscription
last month. I don't know if that changed the Version number, but
a big download was involved. Anyway, the version on my computer
is 21.1.0.18.

Kirk Bubul wrote:

I installed NIS 2013 in November 2012. I renewed my subscription
last month. I don't know if that changed the Version number, but
a big download was involved. Anyway, the version on my computer
is 21.1.0.18.

That's another thing about year stamping a product's title: they push
the year but showing next year. They've already used this year. They
don't want to wait until New Year's Day to release their next version.
Just like buying 2014 cars in 2013.

VanguardLH wrote:
AAH wrote:

I have "Norton Internet Security 2012"
I am trying to find out a version called 2013 and puzzled to see quite a
few
items
Starting from £19.99 to £29.99 but none of them have a version maked as
"Norton
Internet Security 2013 for PCs 3"
Some are advertised as "Norton Internet Security 21 - 3"
But the images/photos advertised are as "Norton Internet Security" These
may be coming
out from crooks???
Any user of NIS, please help me to identify the version for 2013?
Any help is appreciated.


/rant/
Using the year as the version name has been a long mistake. I think
Microsoft started it in 1995 when they named their product Windows 95.
Then everyone else had to use a year in their product's name or as its
version number. In fact, often the year is part of only the product
*name* but that product has its own separate version number. Sometimes
companies tire of putting a year in the product's name. It makes users
think a product is outdated if, for example, the product has no changes
nor does it need any changes in over 2, or more, years.

That year stamping in the product title is how marketers spur customers
into buying the next version. Going from 11.01.8.483 to 11.02.4.112
isn't going to make users think, gee, there's a new version that they
just must have now. But when its 2014 and the product's name is "We
Cheat 'Em & How 2011" then users feel they have old crap and need to get
the new shiny stuff.

Companies will switch back and forth between using the version number or
year stamp in a product's title. One year it's GoofyDraw 9, the next
it's GoofyDraw 2011, the next it's GoofyDraw Ultra, the next it's
whatever they want to disconnect you from visualizing the version
history. They're just screwing with you so you don't know what is the
current version, how old is the one you have, and try to get you to buy
whatever they're now selling.
/rant/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norton_Internet_Security

Well, the product could be referenced as version 2014 (using the
product's title instead of the actual version number) or by its real
version number of 21.0. Either way refers to the same build of the
product. They're selling it. You're supposed to know what you want to
buy. If they were selling version 16.0 (and probably at a big discount)
then you're supposed to know if that's what you want. They're selling
an old version, they're not going to splash aloud that it's old because
they want a sale, and they figure you know you buying an old version to
get that big discount.

There are sites that will sell old versions (e.g., viosoftware.com)
because buyers can get a discount. There you could pay $302 for the
latest MS Office 2013 Pro or, if you don't need all the new bells and
new whistles and don't want a ribbon bar, you could buy MS Office 2003
Pro for $101. The users don't always need all the newest features and
are satisifed with less features in an old version that costs less
money. You decide what you want to buy. They're just selling you a
choice [to get an old version] depending on how much you want to spend.

While the MS Office example is easy to figure out that you're getting an
old version at a discount (except back when Microsoft called it Office
XP instead of Office 2002), it's not always clear which is old and new.
Is Acronis TrueImage 2009 older or newer than Acronis TrueImage 11? See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Image for an answer.

I know for a fact since I now have both. 2009 is newer. :-)

I *had* to "upgrade" from good ole, True Image 11 (circa 2007), to ATI 2009
for the laptops, since True Image 11 didn't work well on the laptops
(meaning - it couldn't find the backup images for a restore operation).
That's too bad, as the interface in True Image 11 is nice and
straightforward, unlike all the succeeding versions of True Image (which are
also more bloated).

As for Norton, and his software, that's a disallowed name over here, and has
been since his stuff all went downhill (circa 2000, and the good ole DOS
days) I think around the time Norton sold it all off. :-)

AAH, recent Norton products don't even use year numbers. Symantec
stopped doing that for years. They still use version numbers though. The
latest is v21.1... See
http://community.norton.com/t5/Produ..._Announcements
for the details. Also, anyone can get the latest upgrades for free as
long as they have valid subscriptions. You can use the old versions'
unused (key/PIN)s on the latest versions.


On 12/5/2013 5:45 AM PT, AAH typed:

I have "Norton Internet Security 2012"
I am trying to find out a version called 2013 and puzzled to see quite a few
items
Starting from £19.99 to £29.99 but none of them have a version maked as
"Norton
Internet Security 2013 for PCs 3"
Some are advertised as "Norton Internet Security 21 - 3"
But the images/photos advertised are as "Norton Internet Security" These
may be coming
out from crooks???
Any user of NIS, please help me to identify the version for 2013?
Any help is appreciated.
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Originally Posted by AAH[_3_]

I have "Norton Internet Security 2012"
I am trying to find out a version called 2013 and puzzled to see quite a few
items
Starting from £19.99 to £29.99 but none of them have a version maked as
"Norton
Internet Security 2013 for PCs 3"
Some are advertised as "Norton Internet Security 21 - 3"
But the images/photos advertised are as "Norton Internet Security" These
may be coming
out from crooks???
Any user of NIS, please help me to identify the version for 2013?
Any help is appreciated.

Hello,

I am Vineeth and I am from the Norton Support team.

As a few other users indicated, we do not use a version number for our products any more. You can download the latest version from our site. I am not sure whether I am allowed to post a link to our site here as per the Terms & Conditions.

If you have a valid subscription for your Norton product, you can update to the latest version for free by visiting the Norton Update Center: http://updatecenter.Norton.com

Let me know if you have any questions!

Thanks!

Vineeth
Norton Support

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 12:27:21 +0000, NortonSupport
wrote:

Hello,

I am Vineeth and I am from the Norton Support team.

As a few other users indicated, we do not use a version number for our
products any more. You can download the latest version from our site. I
am not sure whether I am allowed to post a link to our site here as per
the Terms & Conditions.

If you have a valid subscription for your Norton product, you can update
to the latest version for free by visiting the Norton Update Center:
http://updatecenter.Norton.com

Thank you very much for answering here. I've been a NIS user for
the past 10 or so years, and I noted the absence of annual dating
in this Fall's model year change.

Question: When I recently renewed my subscription for a year's
worth of updates, and, in the process, downloaded a very large
file from Symantec, was I being upgraded to the "2014", i.e.,
current, version of NIS?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Originally Posted by 'Kirk Bubul[_2_

Thank you very much for answering here. I've been a NIS user for
the past 10 or so years, and I noted the absence of annual dating
in this Fall's model year change.

Question: When I recently renewed my subscription for a year's
worth of updates, and, in the process, downloaded a very large
file from Symantec, was I being upgraded to the "2014", i.e.,
current, version of NIS?

Thanks in advance for your response.

Thank you!

I believe you should be using the 21.x or the "2014" version now. We can easily check this.

Start your Norton product.
Click Support About.
In the new window, let me know the version number listed. It should be in the format, 21.1.0.18.

Thanks!

Vineeth
Norton Support

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:03:04 +0000, NortonSupport
wrote:


I believe you should be using the 21.x or the "2014" version now. We can
easily check this.

Start your Norton product.
Click Support About.
In the new window, let me know the version number listed. It should be
in the format, 21.1.0.18.

It is exactly 21.1.0.18. So it did update to the newest version.

Thanks again.

Originally Posted by Kirk Bubul[_2_]

On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 15:03:04 +0000, NortonSupport
wrote:


I believe you should be using the 21.x or the "2014" version now. We can
easily check this.

Start your Norton product.
Click Support About.
In the new window, let me know the version number listed. It should be
in the format, 21.1.0.18.

It is exactly 21.1.0.18. So it did update to the newest version.

Thanks again.

Yes, you have the latest version now. Let me know if you have any questions or if you ever need any help with your Norton product.

Thanks!

Vineeth
Norton Support