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Old December 14th 13, 04:04 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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It is a known issue that affects every XP SP3 users like myself. FYI
from a MS guy: http://marc.info/?l=patchmanagement&...6900324972&w=2
from
http://answers.microsoft.com//messag...9-b340c65acfa5
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On 12/11/2013 1:28 PM PT, Linea Recta typed:


Recently performance of my XP PC is very bad. After booting I get: 100%
CPU usage in task manager.
Processes:

svchost.exe
system

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Old December 14th 13, 04:35 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Ant wrote:
On 12/13/2013 11:58 AM PT, Paul typed:

The next time an Internet Explorer security update is offered,
we'll check this again :-)


Did MS say they fixed it in December 2013 updates?


I think the responsible employee at Microsoft,
is still looking up the word "supersedence"
in his dictionary :-) Then the repair project
can begin.

Don't expect this to be fixed quickly.
A link in your other post shows they tried to
rush out a fix (a zero cost fix, no developer time)
and that didn't work. They'll need budget
approval, to have a dude work on actually
changing code for WinXP. They don't like to
do that, because of the support level at
this point in time. It means some
managers in cushy offices, will have to
sign off on it.

The reason I can joke about it, is I just
tried Windows Update and it's in a loop again.
LOL. Nice. I told you the KB2888xxx side effect
wouldn't last. And it hasn't. I'm timing it now,
to see how long it'll last this time. I predict
more than half an hour. Of 100% CPU on one core.

Paul
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Old December 14th 13, 05:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Paul wrote:
Ant wrote:
On 12/13/2013 11:58 AM PT, Paul typed:

The next time an Internet Explorer security update is offered,
we'll check this again :-)


Did MS say they fixed it in December 2013 updates?



As of today, my 100% CPU delay is over 30 minutes.
The problem is back, and for a good reason.

*******

This page has Internet Explorer for Dec 2013. I will be
installing one of these manually. KB2898785 for the
appropriate version of Internet Explorer. For my
setup, this is a 4MB download. WindowsXP-KB2898785-x86-ENU.exe
There are many different versions. People running a
different version of IE than I am, will get a different
download.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...letin/ms13-097

OK, finished installing, but did not restart. In other words,
the code for IE isn't changed yet.

Theory being, just updating the state of my machine (the fact
that Internet Explorer is now "up to date"), when I test
Windows Update manually now, the over 30 minute delay is gone.

We're back to 15 seconds or so of delay, because the wuauserv thing
is no longer considering how out of date IE is. Since no update
for IE is pending, it doesn't work on that fork.

It's when the svchost thing starts up, checks the Microsoft server,
sees an Internet Explorer update incoming, that's when it
goes off into an infinite look, looking at the "supersedence"
of past IE updates. Of which, there are many.

So if January offers an IE update, then the 30 minute delay
will come back. Until I manually install the January IE update.
As long as I can prevent Windows Update from "seeing" an
incoming IE update, the problem is "worked around". For people
on automatic updates, if their 100% CPU comes back, start
looking for the incoming IE update. Install manually if it
isn't already installed.

Paul
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Old December 14th 13, 10:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"Paul" schreef in bericht
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Linea Recta wrote:
"Paul" schreef in bericht
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Linea Recta wrote:
At last I succeeded in performing the 9 MS security updates, which seem
to have resolved the 100% CPU usage problem. For now...
So it's probably the same problem I was seeing.

As far as I know, the problem isn't fixed, so
expect it to show up again.



Still running fine and this evening again: another update (small, no
reboot)


The next time an Internet Explorer security update is offered,
we'll check this again :-)



And then you should know I don't even use the bl**dy IE. I use Chrome
nowadays, which by the way isn't as fast anymore as it used to be because
they "enhanced" it... :-(




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Old December 15th 13, 10:46 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"gargoyle60" schreef in bericht
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2013 19:49:51 +0100, "Linea Recta"
wrote:


Still running fine and this evening again: another update (small, no
reboot)


Similar issues here. I notice that recent updates have switched of the
BITS entry in Admininstrative
Tools, Services. This small update didn't, but other updates have. I have
found switching BITS back
on and setting it to Automatic mode seems to help, although I admit this
might just be a
coincidence.




I know nothing about BITS, but I certainly don't want automatic updating
going on without me knowing about it...



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Old December 15th 13, 02:36 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 23:01:54 +0100, "Linea Recta" wrote:

I use Chrome
nowadays, which by the way isn't as fast anymore as it used to be because
they "enhanced" it...


You mean they overloaded it with tracking mechanisms that invade your PC and slow it down!!!
I uninstalled Chrome as soon as I noticed other programs that had been installed alongside it.
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Old December 16th 13, 06:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"gargoyle60" schreef in bericht
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On Sat, 14 Dec 2013 23:01:54 +0100, "Linea Recta"
wrote:

I use Chrome
nowadays, which by the way isn't as fast anymore as it used to be because
they "enhanced" it...


You mean they overloaded it with tracking mechanisms that invade your PC
and slow it down!!!
I uninstalled Chrome as soon as I noticed other programs that had been
installed alongside it.




You mean there were no opt out choices? What programs do you mean? Then I
can check it out here.



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Old December 17th 13, 01:22 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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On Mon, 16 Dec 2013 19:56:55 +0100, "Linea Recta" wrote:

You mean there were no opt out choices? What programs do you mean? Then I
can check it out here.


Sorry, can't remember, it was a long time ago. They may have been helper applications or ad-ins, but
I noticed at least two new programs running in the background and my PC slowed down enough to be
annoying, so Chrome got the chop. I don't recall opt-ins/opt-outs.
 




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