O.T. - Temporary firewall problem at boot up:

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Hello Paul,

I got to thinking, so I went back and
uninstalled CcCleaner, then went to the
firewall advanced tab and clicked to
restore default settings and restarted
the computer and the problem was gone!!!

Robert
Hard to believe that CCleaner was the problem, but I'm glad to hear the
firewall problem is fixed.
Did you have CCleaner (is CcCleaner a mistype or a rogue program) set to
check for updates automatically? Just curious.
I have had great experiences with CCleaner.
--
Buffalo

On 20 Dec 2013, "Buffalo" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Hard to believe that CCleaner was the problem, but I'm glad to
hear the firewall problem is fixed.
Did you have CCleaner (is CcCleaner a mistype or a rogue program)
set to check for updates automatically? Just curious.
I have had great experiences with CCleaner.

I agree. I'm skeptical that CCleaner had anything to do with it. It
doesn't run resident. You run it and then exit - it should not
influence anything between sessions.

After this post for some reason I was not able
to post messages. I've been trying for 3 weeks
to be able to post on here again and nothing worked
so after reading Pauls comments I downloaded and
installed Mozilla Firefox and it seems to be working
normally again.(knock on wood)

To make a long story short my computer became infected
with malware from CCcleaner (Optimizer Pro) which had
PUP malware. I've delted all the malware, uninstalled
CcCleaner and installed Microsoft Security Essentials
in place of malwarebytes since my free trial period
expired.

I've run scans everyday with Microsoft Security Essentials
and also Avast and it comes up clean.

Robert

I meant I downloaded and installed Mozilla Thunderbird.

Robert

On 1/9/2014 11:57 AM, wrote:
After this post for some reason I was not able
to post messages. I've been trying for 3 weeks
to be able to post on here again and nothing worked
so after reading Pauls comments I downloaded and
installed Mozilla Firefox and it seems to be working
normally again.(knock on wood)

To make a long story short my computer became infected
with malware from CCcleaner (Optimizer Pro) which had
PUP malware. I've delted all the malware, uninstalled
CcCleaner and installed Microsoft Security Essentials
in place of malwarebytes since my free trial period
expired.

I've run scans everyday with Microsoft Security Essentials
and also Avast and it comes up clean.

Once a machine has been infected with malware, I would never trust any
AV product to check for being really cleaned. As if it is there and
running before the AV loads, you can't trust any AV products to find
anything.

What I do feel comfortable about is another OS scanning that drive(s)
for infection. This could be another machine or booting from CD, DVD,
USB or something.

Of course one could always reformat and reinstall everything from
scratch. This is a sure thing like 99.999% of the time. As there are
malware that can infect the BIOS which reformating and reinstalling
won't help. Also malware can be hidden on part of the hard drive that is
normally hidden. But those secure disk wipe utilities should be able to
kill those.

Of course, I maybe overly concern. You might be just fine. I'm just
saying about the worst cases that could happen.

--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('12 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM - Windows 8 Pro

On 09 Jan 2014, wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

To make a long story short my computer became infected with
malware from CCcleaner (Optimizer Pro) which had PUP malware.

The malware didn't come from Ccleaner, it came from the malicious
site you downloaded it from. If you had gotten it from the official
Ccleaner site (http://www.piriform.com/ccleaner), you wouldn't have
had a problem.

I've delted all the malware, uninstalled CcCleaner and installed
Microsoft Security Essentials in place of malwarebytes since my
free trial period expired.

You could have installed the free version of Malwarebytes. You
didn't need to install their "Pro" commercial trial version. Also,
Security Essentials is not a replacement for Malwarebytes Anti-malware.
They are not equivilent products. Security Essentials is a resident
virus scanner. Malwarebytes is an on-demand malware scanner. They do
different (but related) jobs.

Also, Security Essentials for Windows XP will become obsolete after
After April 8, 2014.

Hello Bill,

I have thought about that but if I were
still infected with malware wouldn't I
notice something e.g. computer slowing down,
error messages etc?

I do have an external HD for the 8500:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822178107

and I've made back-ups and system images but
I'm rather leery of doing a system image
on the 8500 if it isn't necessary.

I did a system restore on the 8200 which I
thought would reset everything but it didn't.
I realize that system restore and system images
aren't the same but still.

I've brought the 8200 up to SP3 and have left
it as is with no additional software. I plan
to use it as a back-up if I need it and only
run updates and scans.

Thoughts/Suggestions?
Robert

I didn't know there was a difference or where
to download. I was working on my own on this
without the forums good advice.

Just so I don't make the mistake again I
would like to uninstall Microsoft Security
Essentials and reinstall malwarebytes from he

http://www.malwarebytes.org/

Would you say this is OK?

Thanks,
Robert

Hello Bill,

The only other computer I have or able to get
my hands on is the 8200 but unfortunately, that
also was infected with malware. So I obviously
can't use that to scan the 8500.

Could you please direct me to some disk software
that I can use to scan for malware.

Thanks,
Robert

On 10 Jan 2014, wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

I didn't know there was a difference or where
to download. I was working on my own on this
without the forums good advice.

Just so I don't make the mistake again I
would like to uninstall Microsoft Security
Essentials and reinstall malwarebytes from he

http://www.malwarebytes.org/

Would you say this is OK?

As I already said, they are not substitutes for each other. They don't
conflict with each other. The can both be installed at the same time.

MS Security Essentials is an anti-virus, comparable to McAfee or
Symantec Norton Antivirus. Malwarebytes is an on-demand malware
scanner, comparable to MS Defender, SuperAntiSpyware, and the like.

On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 10:28:32 -0500, Nil
wrote:


As I already said, they are not substitutes for each other. They don't
conflict with each other. The can both be installed at the same time.

MS Security Essentials is an anti-virus, comparable to McAfee or
Symantec Norton Antivirus.


I agree with everything you say in this message, except for that
sentence. Microsoft Security Essentials is not *comparable to Norton
or McAfee; it is *much* better than either.


Malwarebytes is an on-demand malware
scanner, comparable to MS Defender, SuperAntiSpyware, and the like.

If Microsoft Security Essentials doesn't
address malware and especially if it isn't
supported any longer then I want to uninstall
it and install Malwarebytes instead and I asked
if the link I gave you was ok to download because
I apparently made a mistake with CcCleaner although
I thought I did download it from Piriform and it
was the add-on (Optimizer Pro) which contained the
Pup malware.

In any case, I just want to make sure this time.

I already have Avast for my anti-virus and Spywareblaster
for Spyware and Microsoft firewall. So I would like
to have Malwarebytes to address malware.

Thoughts/suggestions?

Thanks,
Robert

On 1/10/2014 4:27 AM, wrote:
Hello Bill,

I have thought about that but if I were
still infected with malware wouldn't I
notice something e.g. computer slowing down,
error messages etc?

No, that isn't normally that is the goal of malware. As most malware
wants to be totally unnoticeable to the user. Luckily most malware isn't
beta tested very well and thus flaws in the code often pop up.

I do have an external HD for the 8500:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822178107

and I've made back-ups and system images but
I'm rather leery of doing a system image
on the 8500 if it isn't necessary.

I did a system restore on the 8200 which I
thought would reset everything but it didn't.
I realize that system restore and system images
aren't the same but still.

I've brought the 8200 up to SP3 and have left
it as is with no additional software. I plan
to use it as a back-up if I need it and only
run updates and scans.

Thoughts/Suggestions?

I have lots of computers here so I don't run into the need to scan for
malware on the same machine using CD/DVD, flash drive, etc. So I would
be the wrong guy to ask about such boot utilities.

--
Bill
Dell Latitute Slate Tablet 128GB SSD ('12 era) - Thunderbird v12
Intel Atom Z670 1.5GHz - 2GB RAM - Windows 8 Pro

On 10 Jan 2014, "Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

I agree with everything you say in this message, except for that
sentence. Microsoft Security Essentials is not *comparable to
Norton or McAfee; it is *much* better than either.

Wellll... they are comarable in that you can compare them. It's just
that Norton and McAfee will roundly lose the comparison.

On 10 Jan 2014, wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

If Microsoft Security Essentials doesn't address malware and
especially if it isn't supported any longer then I want to
uninstall it and install Malwarebytes instead

No. You don't understand. Please read my previous message more
closely. As I already said twice, Malwarebytes is not a substitute
for MS Security Essentials.

Avast is a substitute for MS Security Essentials. You should not be
running both of those at the same time - they will conflict with each
other. If you are, that's could well be where your firewall problem
lies.

and I asked if the link I gave you was ok to download

Yes, the link http://www.malwarebytes.org/ is OK.

because I apparently made a mistake with CcCleaner although I
thought I did download it from Piriform and it was the add-on
(Optimizer Pro) which contained the Pup malware.

In any case, I just want to make sure this time.

I already have Avast for my anti-virus and Spywareblaster for
Spyware and Microsoft firewall. So I would like to have
Malwarebytes to address malware.