Ethernet cable from laptop to desktop

If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?

Thanks.

Andy wrote:

If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to
a desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?

No. The laptop would have to be running a router-type program I
suppose. Easier to just get a router and plug that into the Internet
connection, then connect both computers to it.

--
Tim Slattery
tim at risingdove dot com

On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:39:53 AM UTC-6, Tim Slattery wrote:
Andy wrote:



If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to

a desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?



No. The laptop would have to be running a router-type program I

suppose. Easier to just get a router and plug that into the Internet

connection, then connect both computers to it.



--

Tim Slattery

tim at risingdove dot com

I have a wifi card, nothing to plug into.

Andy

Andy wrote:
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:39:53 AM UTC-6, Tim Slattery wrote:
Andy wrote:



If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to
a desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?


No. The laptop would have to be running a router-type program I

suppose. Easier to just get a router and plug that into the Internet

connection, then connect both computers to it.



--

Tim Slattery

tim at risingdove dot com

I have a wifi card, nothing to plug into.

Andy

On computers with two NICs (or equivalent), you
can use ICS for networking.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interne...ection_Sharing

But it requires the middle computer in the diagram,
to be powered up and running, when the right-most
computer wants to use the Internet.

ICS
203.123.221.32 192.168.1.1 192.168.1.2
Cable_modem ------------------ PC#1 ----------------- PC#2
(two nic
cards)

That's why ICS isn't such a great idea. Like Tim says,
a router means the PCs are independent of one another.

There are some cable modems, that include a router, and
then there is room to plug four computers right into the
cable_modem_plus_router box. Older cable modems, might
not have a router, and then you can use an old router
box to finish the project.

Cable_modem ---- router ---- PC#1
---- PC#2

Where ICS might be a great idea, is if PC#1 has a
dialup modem on the left hand side, a NIC on the right,
and you're sharing one dialup modem with two computers.
With today's bandwidth demands though, that's not such
a great option. (It means two people are sitting there
staring at the ceiling, waiting for their browser
to finish loading.)

I've tested ICS for short periods of time, but
wasn't impressed enough with it, to make it a
part of a regular setup.

Paul

On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?

Thanks.


You could try with Ethernet crossover cable NOT plain ethernet cable. I
have used it in the past to create a network with Windows XP machines.
You could try it if you have a spare cable handy.

Good luck.

On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:
On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a
desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?

Thanks.


You could try with Ethernet crossover cable NOT plain ethernet cable. I
have used it in the past to create a network with Windows XP machines.
You could try it if you have a spare cable handy.

Good luck.



When you have the aforementioned cable, then you need to follow these
instructions:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126

G/L

"Andy" wrote in message ...
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:39:53 AM UTC-6, Tim Slattery wrote:
Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to
a desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?
No. The laptop would have to be running a router-type program I
suppose. Easier to just get a router and plug that into the Internet
connection, then connect both computers to it.
tim at risingdove dot com
I have a wifi card, nothing to plug into.


Andy

Click on Start
Click on Control Panel
Click on Network Setup Wizard

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:22:29 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:

On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:
On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a
desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?

Thanks.

If you had a wireles router, you could continue to use your laptop
wirelessly and you could plug the desktop into the router. Then each
computer can work on its own, without having to have the laptop
running in order for the desktop to have internet. Where do you get
the wifi signal now, from some sort of box right? Are you sure
there are no ethernet jacks in it, into which you can plug the desktop
system. My knowledge is limited but I've heard of and seen routers
with jacks but no wireless, but I've not heard of routers with
wireless but no physical jacks. So maybe there are jacks.

Unless you're using your neighbor's wifi. :-) Even then you could
run a cable from your home to his!!


You could try with Ethernet crossover cable NOT plain ethernet cable. I

I'm sure if they sell Ethernet crossover cables, they also sell
Ethernet crossover adapters, which would be only a couple inches long
and work with a standard cable to be the same as a crossover cable.

That way, when Andy stops doing this, he'll still have a normal
ethernet cable for other uses.

have used it in the past to create a network with Windows XP machines.
You could try it if you have a spare cable handy.

Good luck.



When you have the aforementioned cable, then you need to follow these
instructions:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306126

G/L

micky wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:22:29 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:

On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:
On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a
desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?

Thanks.

If you had a wireles router, you could continue to use your laptop
wirelessly and you could plug the desktop into the router. Then each
computer can work on its own, without having to have the laptop
running in order for the desktop to have internet. Where do you get
the wifi signal now, from some sort of box right? Are you sure
there are no ethernet jacks in it, into which you can plug the desktop
system. My knowledge is limited but I've heard of and seen routers
with jacks but no wireless, but I've not heard of routers with
wireless but no physical jacks. So maybe there are jacks.

Yes, and they are really not that expensive. I've got a Netgear Wireless
Router that also has 4 Ethernet ports for connections to desktop computers
that don't have wireless capability built-in. And this way the computers
can operate completely independently of each other, and there's no chance of
damage (as there would be if you tied the two computers directly together,
like through a straight Ethernet cable).

On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:12:58 PM UTC-6, Bill in Co wrote:
micky wrote:

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:22:29 +0000, Good Guy

wrote:



On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:

On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:

If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a

desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?



Thanks.



If you had a wireles router, you could continue to use your laptop

wirelessly and you could plug the desktop into the router. Then each

computer can work on its own, without having to have the laptop

running in order for the desktop to have internet. Where do you get

the wifi signal now, from some sort of box right? Are you sure

there are no ethernet jacks in it, into which you can plug the desktop

system. My knowledge is limited but I've heard of and seen routers

with jacks but no wireless, but I've not heard of routers with

wireless but no physical jacks. So maybe there are jacks.



Yes, and they are really not that expensive. I've got a Netgear Wireless

Router that also has 4 Ethernet ports for connections to desktop computers

that don't have wireless capability built-in. And this way the computers

can operate completely independently of each other, and there's no chance of

damage (as there would be if you tied the two computers directly together,

like through a straight Ethernet cable).

Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as a wifi card on my desktop system.

After many hours of work, it never worked.

I got a refund.

Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback from someone who actually used the cable to get internet access on another computer which has no wifi card. :-)

Andy

On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:22:20 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:12:58 PM UTC-6, Bill in Co wrote:
micky wrote:

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:22:29 +0000, Good Guy

wrote:



On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:

On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:

If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a

desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?



Thanks.



If you had a wireles router, you could continue to use your laptop

wirelessly and you could plug the desktop into the router. Then each

computer can work on its own, without having to have the laptop

running in order for the desktop to have internet. Where do you get

the wifi signal now, from some sort of box right? Are you sure

there are no ethernet jacks in it, into which you can plug the desktop

system. My knowledge is limited but I've heard of and seen routers

with jacks but no wireless, but I've not heard of routers with

wireless but no physical jacks. So maybe there are jacks.



Yes, and they are really not that expensive. I've got a Netgear Wireless

Router that also has 4 Ethernet ports for connections to desktop computers

that don't have wireless capability built-in. And this way the computers

can operate completely independently of each other, and there's no chance of

damage (as there would be if you tied the two computers directly together,

like through a straight Ethernet cable).

Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as a wifi card on my desktop system.

I don't know what that means. Did you mean to say it would work WITH
a wifi card....?

Do you have a wifi card on your desktop system? Mine didn't come with
one. I bought it separately and had to open the case and plug it in.

After many hours of work, it never worked.

There can be problems setting it up, especially if you want to use
some kind of secuirty. Esp. if one tries to set up the security at
the same time. (I set mine up with no security, then later added MAC
filtering. People tell me that MAC filtering isn't enough (I don't
know why) , but I've never gotten around to doing anything more.)

I get frustrated too with the computer. Did you ask in a newsgroup
who to get your wireless router working. What model is your desktop?
Have you ever opened up the case? (Do you know about first
discharging to a ground the static electricity from your body?)

I got a refund.

So if you returned the wireless router, what transmits the wifi that
the laptop uses? Maybe it has jacks that will connect it to the
desktop computer. Do you have DSL or Comcast cable or other cable?

If you run the laptop off of wifi, why can't you run the desktop off
of wifi?

Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback from someone who actually used the cable to get internet access on another computer which has no wifi card. :-)

For the record, I said "I'm sure if they sell Ethernet crossover
cables, they also sell Ethernet crossover adapters," *IF* they sell
them. I don't know if they sell them, much less if they work. They
might but I have no experience, and if I read about them outside this
thread, I can't remember.



Andy

My laptop has a wifi card.

Andy

Andy wrote:


Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would
work as a wifi card on my desktop system.

After many hours of work, it never worked.

I got a refund.

Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback
from someone who actually used the cable to get internet
access on another computer which has no wifi card. :-)

Andy

The need for the crossover cable, varies with equipment
situation.

The connection from computer to router, uses a straight cable.

The connection from router to broadband modem, uses a crossover
cable.

The connection from a computer to another computer (ICS mode maybe),
uses a crossover cable.

Those are the old rules.

*******

There is a thing called Auto-MDIX that sorts the cables
with less hair loss for the user.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medium_Dependent_Interface

MDIX should be present on all GbE NIC interfaces. That's
the ones that support 10/100/1000. The 1000 interface uses
8 wires, and the MDIX logic has all the crossbar logic, to
swap the wire pairs around, inside the NIC chip.

Select 10/100BT devices can have the feature too, but that
would be less common. If they went to all that trouble,
it would be easier to just make the chip a GbE instead.

10/100BT can use as few as four wires (differential TX,
differential RX). If you connect a 10/100BT interface
to a GbE NIC, then you would not need to worry about
the cable type. The GbE MDIX can swap them around,
until there is signal.

The end result is, in a home with more GbE computers,
there is less and less need to stock a crossover cable.

I think I keep one spare crossover cable here, for connecting
ancient equipment (according to the rules at the top). For
most other things, I have a few spare 8 wire straight-thru
cables, for connecting computers to routers. The only time
I might acquire an additional crossover cable, is if one
came with a new broadband modem (for connection to the WAN
interface on a router).

You can probably find a web site detailing Ethernet wiring,
that can do a better job of writing the above, than I can.
The above is just from memory.

You keep a single crossover cable in the house (doesn't
have to be a long one), for the sole purpose of determining
whether some "ancient rule" is at play in your interconnect.
Most other times, if you stock straight-thru 8 wire cables
with RJ-45 on the end, those will work. If you were
doing ICS between two 10/100BT computers (surely a
temporary setup), then that would be a time your crossover
cable would get used. I can't remember the last time
I needed the crossover, since my three latest computers
all have GbE (and I hardly fire up the older ones).

Paul

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 10:29:08 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

My laptop has a wifi card.

Andy

Does your desktop? If not, that's why it never worked with the
wireless router.

Ebay has loads of wifi cards used or cheap, as little as 11 dollars
inc. shipping. One requires an empty PCI slot and I don't know if
you have one, or if you know what kind of slots you have. Some are
not tested or guaranteed, and others are. One I see has no antenna.
even though it should. You can see them in the pictures of most of
them.

This one is under 5 dollars with free shipping and uses a USB port. I
guess it should be at least USB2???, and I don't know how one knows if
he has USB *2*. How old is your computer. USB-1 hasn't been used
for ?? years.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-150...00950171327%26

No need to open the case or find a slot. Does use up a USB port, but
the desktop might have two in the front and more in the back. ???
Check if you have an empty USB port.

He sells otter things, and has a 98.6% favorable rating over a quarter
million ratings!

I think I should get one of these, since my router is 2 flights up
from my work bench.


It's shipped from China. How do you all think that works? They put
200 things in a few cartons and ship to the US, where someone who
works for or is contracted to them, opens the cartons and remails
everything?. Or they have a special contract with the airline to
ship individual items from China at the same low rate as if they were
in cartons?

"micky" wrote in message ...
On Fri, 20 Dec 2013 13:22:20 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:
On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:12:58 PM UTC-6, Bill in Co wrote:
micky wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:22:29 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:
On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:
On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a
desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?
Thanks.
If you had a wireles router, you could continue to use your laptop
wirelessly and you could plug the desktop into the router. Then each
computer can work on its own, without having to have the laptop
running in order for the desktop to have internet. Where do you get
the wifi signal now, from some sort of box right? Are you sure
there are no ethernet jacks in it, into which you can plug the desktop
system. My knowledge is limited but I've heard of and seen routers
with jacks but no wireless, but I've not heard of routers with
wireless but no physical jacks. So maybe there are jacks.
Yes, and they are really not that expensive. I've got a Netgear Wireless
Router that also has 4 Ethernet ports for connections to desktop computers
that don't have wireless capability built-in. And this way the computers
can operate completely independently of each other, and there's no chance of
damage (as there would be if you tied the two computers directly together,
like through a straight Ethernet cable).
Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as a wifi card on my desktop system.
I don't know what that means. Did you mean to say it would work WITH
a wifi card....?
Do you have a wifi card on your desktop system? Mine didn't come with
one. I bought it separately and had to open the case and plug it in.
After many hours of work, it never worked.

There can be problems setting it up, especially if you want to use
some kind of secuirty. Esp. if one tries to set up the security at
the same time. (I set mine up with no security, then later added MAC
filtering. People tell me that MAC filtering isn't enough (I don't
know why) , but I've never gotten around to doing anything more.)

I get frustrated too with the computer. Did you ask in a newsgroup
who to get your wireless router working. What model is your desktop?
Have you ever opened up the case? (Do you know about first
discharging to a ground the static electricity from your body?)

I got a refund.
So if you returned the wireless router, what transmits the wifi that
the laptop uses? Maybe it has jacks that will connect it to the
desktop computer. Do you have DSL or Comcast cable or other cable?
If you run the laptop off of wifi, why can't you run the desktop off
of wifi?
Before I buy a crossover cable,
I will want some feedback from someone
who actually used the cable to get internet
access on another computer which has no wifi card.

I Had at one time A PC Win95 OS with A
3Com SW Cable Router with 24 Ethernet Link III 10mb
And
3Com SW Cable PC Card with 1 Ethernet 10mb
A Computer SW Cable was
The first WIFI in it day
Connect Short-Wave
1,800 - 30,000 kHz
Analog Data School to School
The Good Old Days
It as First True Audio Chat
:-)


For the record, I said "I'm sure if they sell Ethernet crossover
cables, they also sell Ethernet crossover adapters," *IF* they sell
them. I don't know if they sell them, much less if they work. They
might but I have no experience, and if I read about them outside this
thread, I can't remember.


It's 2013 if there was away they already make it



Andy