Ethernet cable from laptop to desktop

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 2:10:16 PM UTC-6, micky wrote:
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 10:29:08 -0800 (PST), Andy

wrote:



My laptop has a wifi card.



Andy



Does your desktop? If not, that's why it never worked with the

wireless router.



Ebay has loads of wifi cards used or cheap, as little as 11 dollars

inc. shipping. One requires an empty PCI slot and I don't know if

you have one, or if you know what kind of slots you have. Some are

not tested or guaranteed, and others are. One I see has no antenna.

even though it should. You can see them in the pictures of most of

them.



This one is under 5 dollars with free shipping and uses a USB port. I

guess it should be at least USB2???, and I don't know how one knows if

he has USB *2*. How old is your computer. USB-1 hasn't been used

for ?? years.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-150...00950171327%26



No need to open the case or find a slot. Does use up a USB port, but

the desktop might have two in the front and more in the back. ???

Check if you have an empty USB port.



He sells otter things, and has a 98.6% favorable rating over a quarter

million ratings!



I think I should get one of these, since my router is 2 flights up

from my work bench.





It's shipped from China. How do you all think that works? They put

200 things in a few cartons and ship to the US, where someone who

works for or is contracted to them, opens the cartons and remails

everything?. Or they have a special contract with the airline to

ship individual items from China at the same low rate as if they were

in cartons?

I saw those in Ebay.

I am reluctant to buy it recalling my father's advice that "You get what you pay for."

Andy

I can also get a PCI wifi which would probably be a little faster and won't tie up a USB port.

Andy

Andy wrote:
On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:12:58 PM UTC-6, Bill in Co wrote:
micky wrote:

On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:22:29 +0000, Good Guy

wrote:



On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:
On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a
desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?


Thanks.



If you had a wireles router, you could continue to use your laptop
wirelessly and you could plug the desktop into the router. Then each
computer can work on its own, without having to have the laptop
running in order for the desktop to have internet. Where do you get
the wifi signal now, from some sort of box right? Are you sure
there are no ethernet jacks in it, into which you can plug the desktop
system. My knowledge is limited but I've heard of and seen routers
with jacks but no wireless, but I've not heard of routers with
wireless but no physical jacks. So maybe there are jacks.

Yes, and they are really not that expensive. I've got a Netgear Wireless
Router that also has 4 Ethernet ports for connections to desktop
computers
that don't have wireless capability built-in. And this way the computers
can operate completely independently of each other, and there's no chance
of
damage (as there would be if you tied the two computers directly
together,
like through a straight Ethernet cable).

Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as a
wifi
card on my desktop system.

After many hours of work, it never worked.

I got a refund.

Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback from someone who
actually used the cable to get internet access on another computer which
has
no wifi card. :-)

Andy

I should have caught and corrected this - sorry: My desktop does not have
a WiFi card, but I get my Internet from Comcast Cable and a Cable Modem
plugged into the router, so the Wireless Router (with some Ethernet ports on
it) works for me, which is different from your case. Sorry about the
confusion.

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 12:27:23 -0800 (PST), Andy
wrote:

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 2:10:16 PM UTC-6, micky wrote:
On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 10:29:08 -0800 (PST), Andy

wrote:



My laptop has a wifi card.



Andy



Does your desktop? If not, that's why it never worked with the

wireless router.



Ebay has loads of wifi cards used or cheap, as little as 11 dollars

inc. shipping. One requires an empty PCI slot and I don't know if

you have one, or if you know what kind of slots you have. Some are

not tested or guaranteed, and others are. One I see has no antenna.

even though it should. You can see them in the pictures of most of

them.



This one is under 5 dollars with free shipping and uses a USB port. I

guess it should be at least USB2???, and I don't know how one knows if

he has USB *2*. How old is your computer. USB-1 hasn't been used

for ?? years.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-USB-150...00950171327%26



No need to open the case or find a slot. Does use up a USB port, but

the desktop might have two in the front and more in the back. ???

Check if you have an empty USB port.



He sells otter things, and has a 98.6% favorable rating over a quarter

million ratings!



I think I should get one of these, since my router is 2 flights up

from my work bench.





It's shipped from China. How do you all think that works? They put

200 things in a few cartons and ship to the US, where someone who

works for or is contracted to them, opens the cartons and remails

everything?. Or they have a special contract with the airline to

ship individual items from China at the same low rate as if they were

in cartons?

I saw those in Ebay.

I am reluctant to buy it recalling my father's advice that "You get what you pay for."

Your father said that before they started making electronics in China,
I presume.

And did he never buy anything second hand?

As I said, Ebay has things both new and used. I pushed cheap because
a lot of people are inhibited by price.

But I've bought plenty of stuff, new and used, on ebay and it's all
worked fine. Same thing for other vendors, although I think they've
only had new. And some has been incredbly cheap, like the thing (I
forget the name) that communicates wirelessly with my cell phone for
data transfer, that cost a dollar, shipping included.

Andy

I can also get a PCI wifi which would probably be a little faster and won't tie up a USB port.

So get one.

I just suggested that in my previous post. Then your problem will
probably be solved. (I'd know for sure if you'd answer my questions)
I suggested USB because you've told us nothing about your ability to
add a card to your computer, or if you have empty slots, or what kind
of slots they are. And because you couldn't make the router work,
and didn't address any of the suggestions I made in my first post, or
any of the questions I asked in either post. It all made you look
like you didn't know how to deal with the suggestions or answer the
questions. You won't even say what the source of the wifi that
connects your laptop is, though I brought the subject up twice.

Three of your five posts were one line long, another was five lines
long, and the one I'm answering was 4 lines long, (and these 12 lines
manage to include lots of junk unrelated to your problem) and you've
still told us almost nothing. You don't answer questions, you just
raise objections. Until you ask better questions, answer my
questions, and provide much more info, I'm done with you.

Andy

Hmmm. I looked around and I see you're like this a lot.

Another poster said to you, after you insulted him for no good reason:

"I.E. I have quite a few clues, but I'm not in the mood to engage in a
game of "tease-the-meagerest-bit-of-grudging-information-from-the-guy-
who-constantly-breaks-his-computer." If you really wanted help, you'd
give people something to go on, not such useless vagaries,

Every time you do this, which is almost every day, you're asked for
complete and pertinent descriptions and information. You refuse to
help yourself or your helpers. The only explanation I can think of is
that it's really all about getting attention."

Grow up.

On 21 Dec 2013, micky wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

Three of your five posts were one line long, another was five
lines long, and the one I'm answering was 4 lines long, (and these
12 lines manage to include lots of junk unrelated to your problem)
and you've still told us almost nothing. You don't answer
questions, you just raise objections. Until you ask better
questions, answer my questions, and provide much more info, I'm
done with you.

In Transactional Analysis, this is known as the "Why Don't You/Yes
But" Game. It involves Party #1 asking a question, then countering
Party #2's every suggestion with excuses why they won't work. The
motivation could be any number of things, but it's certainly NOT
about actually solving the problem.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transac..._You.2FYes_But


Hmmm. I looked around and I see you're like this a lot.

Another poster said to you, after you insulted him for no good
reason:

"I.E. I have quite a few clues, but I'm not in the mood to engage
in a game of
"tease-the-meagerest-bit-of-grudging-information-from-the-guy-
who-constantly-breaks-his-computer." If you really wanted help,
you'd give people something to go on, not such useless vagaries,

Every time you do this, which is almost every day, you're asked
for complete and pertinent descriptions and information. You
refuse to help yourself or your helpers. The only explanation I
can think of is that it's really all about getting attention."

Grow up.

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 2:33:38 PM UTC-6, Bill in Co wrote:
Andy wrote:

On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:12:58 PM UTC-6, Bill in Co wrote:

micky wrote:



On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:22:29 +0000, Good Guy



wrote:







On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:

On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:

If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a

desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?





Thanks.







If you had a wireles router, you could continue to use your laptop

wirelessly and you could plug the desktop into the router. Then each

computer can work on its own, without having to have the laptop

running in order for the desktop to have internet. Where do you get

the wifi signal now, from some sort of box right? Are you sure

there are no ethernet jacks in it, into which you can plug the desktop

system. My knowledge is limited but I've heard of and seen routers

with jacks but no wireless, but I've not heard of routers with

wireless but no physical jacks. So maybe there are jacks.



Yes, and they are really not that expensive. I've got a Netgear Wireless

Router that also has 4 Ethernet ports for connections to desktop

computers

that don't have wireless capability built-in. And this way the computers

can operate completely independently of each other, and there's no chance

of

damage (as there would be if you tied the two computers directly

together,

like through a straight Ethernet cable).



Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as a

wifi

card on my desktop system.



After many hours of work, it never worked.



I got a refund.



Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback from someone who

actually used the cable to get internet access on another computer which

has

no wifi card. :-)



Andy



I should have caught and corrected this - sorry: My desktop does not have

a WiFi card, but I get my Internet from Comcast Cable and a Cable Modem

plugged into the router, so the Wireless Router (with some Ethernet ports on

it) works for me, which is different from your case. Sorry about the

confusion.

No problem, I learned a lot.

Andy

On 20/12/2013 21:22, Andy wrote:
Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as
a wifi card on my desktop system.

After many hours of work, it never worked.

I got a refund.

Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback from someone
who actually used the cable to get internet access on another computer
which has no wifi card.

Andy

Now that you have returned your WI-FI router, how are you connecting to
the internet? You need a modem-router which also has WI-FI transmission
ability. Your laptop can't connect if you don't have a router.

Second, the crossover cable does work because I have used it when I had
some XP and Windows 98 machines. The cables are still being sold in the
UK. See this link:

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search/searchTerms/CROSSOVER+CABLE.htm

You are in the United States so you need to search in your country or
contact Belkin or Amazon if they have any. In fact any computer shop
should have it or they can make one for you. I used to make my own
because I always liked to get my hands dirty when it comes to computer
stuff. I don't trust technician's knowledge when it comes to
computers. It is just me because of my background. I can read manuals
and books while most technicians can't. that's the difference.

But first you need a Wi-FI router for laptop to connect and your desktop
can connect to your laptop. This is not the norm because people
normally have desktop connected to Internet and other devices connect
via the desktop but your setup is very different and interesting!! In
fact when you get a WI-FI modem-router then your need of getting a
crossover cable is diminished because all modems have connection ports
and so desktop can be connected using the normal ethernet cable that
comes with the router and laptop can connect wirelessly. Not sure what
the problem is here.

It looks like you are making the problem for nothing. It is very
straight forward IMHO.

Hope this helps.


--
Good Guy
Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk
Website: http://html-css.co.uk
Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us

"Andy" wrote in message ...
On Saturday, December 21, 2013 2:33:38 PM UTC-6, Bill in Co wrote:
Andy wrote:
On Friday, December 20, 2013 2:12:58 PM UTC-6, Bill in Co wrote:
micky wrote:
On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 22:22:29 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:
On 19/12/2013 22:17, Good Guy wrote:
On 19/12/2013 16:14, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a
desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?
Thanks.
If you had a wireles router, you could continue to use your laptop
wirelessly and you could plug the desktop into the router. Then each
computer can work on its own, without having to have the laptop
running in order for the desktop to have internet. Where do you get
the wifi signal now, from some sort of box right? Are you sure
there are no ethernet jacks in it, into which you can plug the desktop
system. My knowledge is limited but I've heard of and seen routers
with jacks but no wireless, but I've not heard of routers with
wireless but no physical jacks. So maybe there are jacks.
Yes, and they are really not that expensive. I've got a Netgear Wireless
Router that also has 4 Ethernet ports for connections to desktop
computers
that don't have wireless capability built-in. And this way the computers
can operate completely independently of each other, and there's no chance
of
damage (as there would be if you tied the two computers directly
together,
like through a straight Ethernet cable).
Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as a
wifi
card on my desktop system.
After many hours of work, it never worked.
I got a refund.
Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback from someone who
actually used the cable to get internet access on another computer which
has
no wifi card. :-)
Andy
I should have caught and corrected this - sorry: My desktop does not have
a WiFi card, but I get my Internet from Comcast Cable and a Cable Modem
plugged into the router, so the Wireless Router (with some Ethernet ports on
it) works for me, which is different from your case. Sorry about the
confusion.

No problem, I learned a lot.


Good Andy Happy Today

On 12/21/2013 3:15 PM, Hot-Text wrote:

I Had at one time A PC Win95 OS with A
3Com SW Cable Router with 24 Ethernet Link III 10mb
And
3Com SW Cable PC Card with 1 Ethernet 10mb
A Computer SW Cable was
The first WIFI in it day

Maybe not the first WiFi. AlohaNet was operational in 1971, using
inter-island radio to allow access to the time-shared computer at the
main campus of U.Hawaii.

AlohaNet was influential in the creation of Ethernet. For more info,
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALOHAnet.
--
Cheers, Bob

On Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:16:30 PM UTC-6, Good Guy wrote:
On 20/12/2013 21:22, Andy wrote:

Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as

a wifi card on my desktop system.



After many hours of work, it never worked.



I got a refund.



Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback from someone

who actually used the cable to get internet access on another computer

which has no wifi card.



Andy



Now that you have returned your WI-FI router, how are you connecting to

the internet? You need a modem-router which also has WI-FI transmission

ability. Your laptop can't connect if you don't have a router.



Second, the crossover cable does work because I have used it when I had

some XP and Windows 98 machines. The cables are still being sold in the

UK. See this link:



http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search/searchTerms/CROSSOVER+CABLE.htm



You are in the United States so you need to search in your country or

contact Belkin or Amazon if they have any. In fact any computer shop

should have it or they can make one for you. I used to make my own

because I always liked to get my hands dirty when it comes to computer

stuff. I don't trust technician's knowledge when it comes to

computers. It is just me because of my background. I can read manuals

and books while most technicians can't. that's the difference.



But first you need a Wi-FI router for laptop to connect and your desktop

can connect to your laptop. This is not the norm because people

normally have desktop connected to Internet and other devices connect

via the desktop but your setup is very different and interesting!! In

fact when you get a WI-FI modem-router then your need of getting a

crossover cable is diminished because all modems have connection ports

and so desktop can be connected using the normal ethernet cable that

comes with the router and laptop can connect wirelessly. Not sure what

the problem is here.



It looks like you are making the problem for nothing. It is very

straight forward IMHO.



Hope this helps.





--

Good Guy

Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk

Website: http://html-css.co.uk

Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us

My laptop has a wifi card.

Andy

On 22/12/2013 14:23, Andy wrote:
On Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:16:30 PM UTC-6, Good Guy wrote:
On 20/12/2013 21:22, Andy wrote:

Before I bought the wireless router, I had been told it would work as
a wifi card on my desktop system.
After many hours of work, it never worked.
I got a refund.
Before I buy a crossover cable, I will want some feedback from someone
who actually used the cable to get internet access on another computer
which has no wifi card.
Andy


Now that you have returned your WI-FI router, how are you connecting to

the internet? You need a modem-router which also has WI-FI transmission

ability. Your laptop can't connect if you don't have a router.



Second, the crossover cable does work because I have used it when I had

some XP and Windows 98 machines. The cables are still being sold in the

UK. See this link:



http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Search/searchTerms/CROSSOVER+CABLE.htm



You are in the United States so you need to search in your country or

contact Belkin or Amazon if they have any. In fact any computer shop

should have it or they can make one for you. I used to make my own

because I always liked to get my hands dirty when it comes to computer

stuff. I don't trust technician's knowledge when it comes to

computers. It is just me because of my background. I can read manuals

and books while most technicians can't. that's the difference.



But first you need a Wi-FI router for laptop to connect and your desktop

can connect to your laptop. This is not the norm because people

normally have desktop connected to Internet and other devices connect

via the desktop but your setup is very different and interesting!! In

fact when you get a WI-FI modem-router then your need of getting a

crossover cable is diminished because all modems have connection ports

and so desktop can be connected using the normal ethernet cable that

comes with the router and laptop can connect wirelessly. Not sure what

the problem is here.



It looks like you are making the problem for nothing. It is very

straight forward IMHO.



Hope this helps.





--

Good Guy

Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk

Website: http://html-css.co.uk

Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us
My laptop has a wifi card.

Andy


I think you are missing the point. A Wifi card without a router to
connect to is completely useless. Can I ask you whether you have access
to Internet at present? If so then you MUST have a router and
[presumably] wifi transmission mechanism. Most modem-routers these days
have wifi transmission facility.

If you currently don't have internet at home then forget it because it
is a non-starter to do anything.

By the way ALL laptops have wifi cards these days so we took it for
granted here. However, all desktops DON'T have wifi card and that is
why you need a cable of some sort to connect to the internet when you
are using your desktop.

The scenario I was thinking was that your laptop can connect to the
internet because you already have a modem-router; Your desktop can
connect to the internet using the cable of some sort that is connected
to the modem-router. It seems this is not the case in your case or that
you haven't told us everything about your setup.

Merry Christmas.


--
Good Guy
Website: http://mytaxsite.co.uk
Website: http://html-css.co.uk
Email: http://mytaxsite.co.uk/contact-us

On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:14:25 AM UTC-6, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card to a desktop system, will the desktop be able to connect to the Internet ?



Thanks.

You are in error.

I have an Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN and NO router and I receive the Internet thru an open signal.

Internet access

A Wi-Fi-enabled device can connect to the Internet when within range of a wireless network which is configured to permit this. The coverage of one or more (interconnected) access points—called hotspots—can extend from an area as small as a few rooms to as large as many square miles.

On 22 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:14:25 AM UTC-6, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card
to a desk top system, will the desktop be able to connect to the
Internet ?

Thanks.

You are in error.

I have an Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN and NO router and I receive the
Internet thru an open signal.

Internet access

A Wi-Fi-enabled device can connect to the Internet when within
range of a wireless network which is configured to permit this.
The coverage of one or more (interconnected) access points—called
hotspots—can extend from an area as small as a few rooms to as
large as many square miles.

Why are you responding to yourself? Why does your answer have nothing
at all to do with your question?

On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 15:09:27 -0500, "Nil"
wrote in article
...

On 22 Dec 2013, Andy wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

On Thursday, December 19, 2013 10:14:25 AM UTC-6, Andy wrote:
If I ran an ethernet cable from my laptop which has a wifi card
to a desk top system, will the desktop be able to connect to the
Internet ?

Thanks.

You are in error.

I have an Intel Wifi Link 5100 AGN and NO router and I receive the
Internet thru an open signal.

Internet access

A Wi-Fi-enabled device can connect to the Internet when within
range of a wireless network which is configured to permit this.
The coverage of one or more (interconnected) access points?called
hotspots?can extend from an area as small as a few rooms to as
large as many square miles.

Why are you responding to yourself? Why does your answer have nothing
at all to do with your question?

Because he's been programming in assembler for so long it has affected
his mind. Or something. :/

--
Zaphod

Voted "Worst Dressed Sentient Being in the Known Universe" for seven
years in a row.

On Sat, 21 Dec 2013 19:22:07 -0500, micky
wrote:


But I've bought plenty of stuff, new and used, on ebay and it's all
worked fine. Same thing for other vendors, although I think they've
only had new. And some has been incredbly cheap, like the thing (I
forget the name) that communicates wirelessly with my cell phone for
data transfer, that cost a dollar, shipping included.

I finally remembered the name. Bluetooth. Cost a dollar, incuding
postage. . Plugged into the USB port. Let my cell phone communicate
directly with my computer, to store or restore contacts, data,
photos.....