WinXP 'Windows Updates'

The WinXP Windows Updates seem to have been given the lowest priority.
If manually searching for updates, it sure does take a loooooooooooooooong time.

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http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message ...
The WinXP Windows Updates seem to have been given the lowest priority.
If manually searching for updates, it sure does take a loooooooooooooooong time.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp




Download this update manually then restart the PC. It should make WU/MU run smooth after that. It did for me.

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for Windows XP (KB2898785)
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=41404
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP 2004 ~ 2010
Imperial Beach, CA

On 12/21/2013 09:27 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
The WinXP Windows Updates seem to have been given the lowest priority.
If manually searching for updates, it sure does take a loooooooooooooooong time.






Yep, I often have two machines at a time on my workbench and last week
*all* post sp1 win7 updates were downloaded before XP was able to find
the newest half-dozen or so.

Hmm, posts HTML in a text-only newsgroup. Forgets to trim off the
signature in the quoted content. Not quite got the new NNTP client
configured yet?

"VanguardLH" wrote in message
...
Hmm, posts HTML in a text-only newsgroup. Forgets to trim off the
signature in the quoted content. Not quite got the new NNTP client
configured yet?



Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent got inadvertently
unchecked. I use the NNTP Bridge for the MS forums and as it is a "back
door" to a Website, HTML is preferred there.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP 2004 ~ 2010
Imperial Beach, CA

David H. Lipman wrote:
The WinXP Windows Updates seem to have been given the lowest priority.
If manually searching for updates, it sure does take a loooooooooooooooong time.


What happens is, if an Internet Explorer update is "pending"
and in your queue, wuauserv goes off in a loop for half an hour.

If you can guess at what the KB is of the latest Internet Explorer
security patch, you can download that patch separately. Once
installed, your Internet Explorer version is up to date.

The very next attempt to reach Windows Update, because it has
no need to burrow into all the old Internet Explorer information,
wuauserv finishes its job in ten to fifteen seconds.

When an Internet Explorer patch arrives in January, the same
thing will happen. Long delay on Windows Update. Simply, track
down the Jan.2014 Internet Explorer update, install it separately,
and the long delay will be gone again. You can then open
Windows Update and finish the other Jan.2014 patches.

While a Microsoft manager claims they've "put the right staff on it
and will fix it", I'm expecting a "sit on my hands" behavior until
April 2014. Causing all sorts of grief for people attempting to
clean install their WinXP later than April 2014, and so on.
It would just be Microsoft's way of "encouraging you to update".

We'll see whether my cynical speculation pans out or not :-)

Paul

From: "Bruce Hagen"

David H. Lipman" wrote in message ...

The WinXP Windows Updates seem to have been given the lowest priority.
If manually searching for updates, it sure does take a loooooooooooooooong time.



Download this update manually then restart the PC. It should make WU/MU run smooth after
that. It did for me.

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for Windows XP (KB2898785)
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=41404

Thanx, I'll give ist a shot.



--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

From: "Bruce Hagen"

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message ...
The WinXP Windows Updates seem to have been given the lowest priority.
If manually searching for updates, it sure does take a loooooooooooooooong time.


Download this update manually then restart the PC. It should make WU/MU run smooth after
that. It did for me.

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for Windows XP (KB2898785)
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=41404


This worked. Thanx Bruce and Happy Holidays !



--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
From: "Bruce Hagen"

"David H. Lipman" wrote in message
...
The WinXP Windows Updates seem to have been given the lowest priority.
If manually searching for updates, it sure does take a
loooooooooooooooong time.


Download this update manually then restart the PC. It should make WU/MU
run smooth after
that. It did for me.

Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for Windows XP
(KB2898785)
http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/downl....aspx?id=41404


This worked. Thanx Bruce and Happy Holidays !




You're very welcome.
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP 2004 ~ 2010
Imperial Beach, CA

Paul wrote:
When an Internet Explorer patch arrives in January, the same
thing will happen. Long delay on Windows Update. Simply, track
down the Jan.2014 Internet Explorer update, install it separately,
and the long delay will be gone again. You can then open
Windows Update and finish the other Jan.2014 patches.

While a Microsoft manager claims they've "put the right staff on it
and will fix it", I'm expecting a "sit on my hands" behavior until
April 2014. Causing all sorts of grief for people attempting to
clean install their WinXP later than April 2014, and so on.
It would just be Microsoft's way of "encouraging you to update".

We'll see whether my cynical speculation pans out or not :-)

Paul

Is there really a way to gather up all updates to have on hand to keep XP
machines running when MS stops making updates available? I've used the
WSUSoffline program, but that seems to get a pretty limited subset of updates,
and seems unreliable in it's ability to install the ones it downloads? I found
plenty of updates that show the KB# in the downloaded library, but the installer
cannot find them.

Bob F wrote:
Paul wrote:
When an Internet Explorer patch arrives in January, the same
thing will happen. Long delay on Windows Update. Simply, track
down the Jan.2014 Internet Explorer update, install it separately,
and the long delay will be gone again. You can then open
Windows Update and finish the other Jan.2014 patches.

While a Microsoft manager claims they've "put the right staff on it
and will fix it", I'm expecting a "sit on my hands" behavior until
April 2014. Causing all sorts of grief for people attempting to
clean install their WinXP later than April 2014, and so on.
It would just be Microsoft's way of "encouraging you to update".

We'll see whether my cynical speculation pans out or not :-)

Paul

Is there really a way to gather up all updates to have on hand to keep XP
machines running when MS stops making updates available? I've used the
WSUSoffline program, but that seems to get a pretty limited subset of updates,
and seems unreliable in it's ability to install the ones it downloads? I found
plenty of updates that show the KB# in the downloaded library, but the installer
cannot find them.


My bookmarks list has this one.

http://download.wsusoffline.net/

Tools like that, they probe the Microsoft manifest files, and
make a list of updates. Then, the actual file comes from
Microsoft, for each download. So the files are not actually
hosted on that site, and you're downloading them from Microsoft.
If the files were stored on wsusoffline web site, the
Microsoft lawyers would come after them.

Later, you're supposed to be able to update your OS, against
that downloaded folder. That's the part I haven't tried yet. Since
I have VMs available, I'm going to have to test that
soon, in preparation for April.

There are tools besides that one. That's not the only
one. A previous one, the tool wasn't kept up to date,
and at the end of Win2K support, the tool was useless.
(I was not able to make a repository for Win2K.)
It's a lot of work to keep stuff like that working
properly. You can't expect developers to work on
that forever, for free. It's different than writing
a utility, that after a while it's "finished". There's
always a "curve-ball" with that WU stuff, an unexpected
thing that needs to be fixed.

Paul

On 12/22/2013 05:38 PM, Paul wrote:
Bob F wrote:
Paul wrote:
When an Internet Explorer patch arrives in January, the same
thing will happen. Long delay on Windows Update. Simply, track
down the Jan.2014 Internet Explorer update, install it separately,
and the long delay will be gone again. You can then open
Windows Update and finish the other Jan.2014 patches.

While a Microsoft manager claims they've "put the right staff on it
and will fix it", I'm expecting a "sit on my hands" behavior until
April 2014. Causing all sorts of grief for people attempting to
clean install their WinXP later than April 2014, and so on.
It would just be Microsoft's way of "encouraging you to update".

We'll see whether my cynical speculation pans out or not :-)

Paul

Is there really a way to gather up all updates to have on hand to keep
XP machines running when MS stops making updates available? I've used
the WSUSoffline program, but that seems to get a pretty limited subset
of updates, and seems unreliable in it's ability to install the ones
it downloads? I found plenty of updates that show the KB# in the
downloaded library, but the installer cannot find them.


My bookmarks list has this one.

http://download.wsusoffline.net/

Tools like that, they probe the Microsoft manifest files, and
make a list of updates. Then, the actual file comes from
Microsoft, for each download. So the files are not actually
hosted on that site, and you're downloading them from Microsoft.
If the files were stored on wsusoffline web site, the
Microsoft lawyers would come after them.
X


I've used that utility and it takes so long to calculate what is needed
I can actually download all the updates and install them from the update
site faster.

The main question is : How long will they be available after support ends?

"Bob F" ha scritto nel messaggio
...

Is there really a way to gather up all updates to have on hand to keep XP
machines running when MS stops making updates available?

After the next 14 April, I hope Microsoft will publish the whole final
updates.

In any case, after or before April, there is a guy who every month publishes
the whole XP updates in one package.
It's sure that guy will publish it even after 14 April 2014, so we should be
tranquil about updates.
I don't know well that system, nor I know if it's avalaible in English
language too.

"G.F." ha scritto nel messaggio
...

I don't know well that system, nor I know if it's avalaible in English
language too.

If someone wish it, I can try to get more information.

On Mon, 23 Dec 2013 13:56:44 +0100, "G.F." wrote:

"Bob F" ha scritto nel messaggio
...

Is there really a way to gather up all updates to have on hand to keep XP
machines running when MS stops making updates available?

After the next 14 April, I hope Microsoft will publish the whole final
updates.

In any case, after or before April, there is a guy who every month publishes
the whole XP updates in one package.
It's sure that guy will publish it even after 14 April 2014, so we should be
tranquil about updates.


I don't know who this guy is nor any details about what he does or
where to get what he publishes. However downloading and installing
what some anonymous individual does in this regard is playing with
fire. It may be safe but it also may not. There's no way to be sure
that he isn't malicious and what he publishes isn't laced with
malware.

I strongly recommend against it.