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Old January 7th 14, 11:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Need Win 8.1

I've desire to upgrade from Windows 8 (not sure about language version) to
Windows 8.1 but imagine file is too big to download and local stores do not
have DVD. I was planning to buy Windows 8.1 on microsoft.com site one day,
when I had credit card.

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Old January 7th 14, 12:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Jon wrote:
I've desire to upgrade from Windows 8 (not sure about language version)
to Windows 8.1 but imagine file is too big to download and local stores
do not have DVD. I was planning to buy Windows 8.1 on microsoft.com site
one day, when I had credit card.


Not too big to download and it's free.

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Old January 7th 14, 12:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Alias" escreveu na mensagem ...

Jon wrote:
I've desire to upgrade from Windows 8 (not sure about language version)
to Windows 8.1 but imagine file is too big to download and local stores
do not have DVD. I was planning to buy Windows 8.1 on microsoft.com site
one day, when I had credit card.


Not too big to download and it's free.

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I was analyzing whether it worth since current Windows 8 is working well.
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Old January 7th 14, 05:27 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Jon wrote:
I've desire to upgrade from Windows 8 (not sure about language version)
to Windows 8.1 but imagine file is too big to download and local stores
do not have DVD. I was planning to buy Windows 8.1 on microsoft.com site
one day, when I had credit card.


Windows 8.1 upgrade from 8.0 is free and available in Win8.0 via signing
on with a MSFT Account and accessing the Microsoft Store. The Store is a
tile on the Modern UI Start Screen UI.

Windows 8.1 is not available (nor will it be) in upgrade media form from
the MSFT Store/website or retail outlets. The only version being sold
are the full version editions of Windows 8 Core, Windows 8 Professional.
Retail versions of Core and Pro contain both 32 and 64 bit DVD's.
OEM/System Builder versions only contain one - 32 or 64 bit. If
purchasing the latter ensure the correct bitness is purchased.

All pc's using Win8.0 have until the fall of 2015 to upgrade to 8.1. All
support for 8.0 (program and security updates) will cease approx. 2 yrs
after the release date of 8.1.

Win8.1 System Requirements
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...m-requirements

If using Win 8.0-64-bit ensure the hardware meets the 64 bit requirement.
"To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to
support CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF"

Most 8.0 built pcs do...some older units that were upgraded from an
earlier o/s to 8.0 may not meet 8.1 requirements thus cannot install
8.1. Unless something changes those units incapable of upgrading to 8.1
will have to be replaced with hardware meeting system requirements to
run Win8.1 or later.


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Old January 7th 14, 05:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"...winston‫" has written on 1/7/2014 12:27 PM:
"To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to
support CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF"


How does one find out what processor is in his computer, and whether or
not it supports those?

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Old January 7th 14, 05:36 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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Default Need Win 8.1

In ,
Juan Wei typed:
"...winston?" has written on 1/7/2014 12:27 PM:
"To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to
support CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF"


How does one find out what processor is in his computer, and whether
or not it supports those?


The Microsoft method would be to download and run

Windows 8.1 Upgrade Assistant
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=261871

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Old January 7th 14, 05:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Need Win 8.1

On 07/01/2014 12:30 PM, Juan Wei wrote:
"...winston‫" has written on 1/7/2014 12:27 PM:
"To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to
support CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF"


How does one find out what processor is in his computer, and whether or
not it supports those?


Control Panel - System

If your processor isn't older than 5 years, it should be fine. But Core
i3 to i7 are fine as are AMD processors in the FX line.
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Old January 8th 14, 10:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Juan Wei wrote, On 1/7/2014 12:30 PM:
"...winston‫" has written on 1/7/2014 12:27 PM:
"To install a 64-bit OS on a 64-bit PC, your processor needs to
support CMPXCHG16b, PrefetchW, and LAHF/SAHF"


How does one find out what processor is in his computer, and whether or
not it supports those?



There are variety of tools available to provide processor specific
parameters regarding what is/isn't supported.

My personal recommendation would be to obtain Microsoft Fellow Mark
Russinovich's System Internals Coreinfo V3.21

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s...rnals/cc835722

It's a command line utility that runs in a command window. The results
can be copied to Notepad, Wordpad, or any word processor (Word).



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Old January 8th 14, 09:56 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"...winston‫" said on 1/7/2014 12:27 PM:

Windows 8.1 is not available (nor will it be) in upgrade media form from
the MSFT Store/website or retail outlets. The only version being sold
are the full version editions of Windows 8 Core, Windows 8 Professional.


I just downloaded the 8.1 upgrade via these directions:
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...8-product-key/

It works great. I now have the win8 iso and the win8.1 upgrade iso.
So I can easily re-install again.

To: Jon, Not sure why it's too large, probably on dsl/modem, but either
way, maybe a friend can download it to an ISO for you?



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Old January 8th 14, 11:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"Big Al" escreveu na mensagem
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"...winston‫" said on 1/7/2014 12:27 PM:

Windows 8.1 is not available (nor will it be) in upgrade media form from
the MSFT Store/website or retail outlets. The only version being sold
are the full version editions of Windows 8 Core, Windows 8 Professional.


I just downloaded the 8.1 upgrade via these directions:
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...8-product-key/

It works great. I now have the win8 iso and the win8.1 upgrade iso.
So I can easily re-install again.

To: Jon, Not sure why it's too large, probably on dsl/modem, but either
way, maybe a friend can download it to an ISO for you?


are you selling pirate copies?

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Old January 9th 14, 01:41 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Big Al wrote, On 1/8/2014 4:56 PM:

"...winston‫" said on 1/7/2014 12:27 PM:

Windows 8.1 is not available (nor will it be) in upgrade media form from
the MSFT Store/website or retail outlets. The only version being sold
are the full version editions of Windows 8 Core, Windows 8 Professional.


I just downloaded the 8.1 upgrade via these directions:
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...8-product-key/


It works great. I now have the win8 iso and the win8.1 upgrade iso. So
I can easily re-install again.

To: Jon, Not sure why it's too large, probably on dsl/modem, but either
way, maybe a friend can download it to an ISO for you?




You can reinstall 8.1 using that media from 8.0 after
- restoring an 8.0 image
or
- clean installing 8.0
or
- resetting pc back to 8.0 (upgrading from 8.0 to 8.1 **does not**
upgrade the refresh/reset bits to 8.1)

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Old January 9th 14, 02:49 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 1/8/2014 6:47 PM, Migrante wrote:
"Big Al" escreveu na mensagem eb.com...


"...winston‫" said on 1/7/2014 12:27 PM:

Windows 8.1 is not available (nor will it be) in upgrade media form from
the MSFT Store/website or retail outlets. The only version being sold
are the full version editions of Windows 8 Core, Windows 8 Professional.


I just downloaded the 8.1 upgrade via these directions:
http://www.redmondpie.com/how-to-dow...8-product-key/

It works great. I now have the win8 iso and the win8.1 upgrade iso.
So I can easily re-install again.

To: Jon, Not sure why it's too large, probably on dsl/modem, but either
way, maybe a friend can download it to an ISO for you?


are you selling pirate copies?


You don't sell copies of those $39.95 downloads.

For one thing, the install.esd file only contains one
release version of Windows 8, not all releases (like a
retail DVD might). That's why the file is a smaller download,
than other versions.

And the other problem, is each install.esd is traceable to the
original purchaser. If the purchaser makes a nuisance of themselves
by torrenting the image, it's no trouble at all for Microsoft to
identify the source. As a purchaser of the online Win8 Pro, I
did two downloads, and each install.esd has a different checksum.
So there is identification possible, because each person doing
a download from the source, ends up with a different install.esd file.

On the other hand, a torrent containing a retail DVD with install.wim,
all of those are the same, and are not serialized. Or the MSDN image
would also make a good torrent, if that's your preference.

It's not the DVD that's worth anything anyway - it is the key
which carries the "value". And without a key, the DVD isn't much good
to you.

If the activation has been cracked somehow (and there are always people
working on methods), then the DVD would be more of a threat to Microsoft,
so they'd send their legal team to get you :-)

I would not lend copies of my $39.95 download edition, to other people.
If I had a retail DVD, I wouldn't have a problem letting people copy
that one.

Paul

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Old January 9th 14, 07:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 09/01/2014 2:28 PM, G. Morgan wrote:
Jon wrote:

I've desire to upgrade from Windows 8 (not sure about language version) to
Windows 8.1 but imagine file is too big to download and local stores do not
have DVD. I was planning to buy Windows 8.1 on microsoft.com site one day,
when I had credit card.



http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../feature-packs

What do you mean it's too big? Are you out of disk space?


It's clear he's referring to the size of the download and his likely
lack of acceptable broadband.

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Old January 9th 14, 07:35 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Jon wrote:

I've desire to upgrade from Windows 8 (not sure about language version) to
Windows 8.1 but imagine file is too big to download and local stores do not
have DVD. I was planning to buy Windows 8.1 on microsoft.com site one day,
when I had credit card.


"G. Morgan" escreveu na mensagem
...

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../feature-packs

What do you mean it's too big? Are you out of disk space?

....

While downloading a file, internet could fail. I don't know if we need to be
online during upgrade.

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Old January 9th 14, 08:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Migrante said on 1/9/2014 2:35 PM:


Jon wrote:

I've desire to upgrade from Windows 8 (not sure about language
version) to
Windows 8.1 but imagine file is too big to download and local stores
do not
have DVD. I was planning to buy Windows 8.1 on microsoft.com site one
day,
when I had credit card.


"G. Morgan" escreveu na mensagem
...

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w.../feature-packs

What do you mean it's too big? Are you out of disk space?

...

While downloading a file, internet could fail. I don't know if we need
to be online during upgrade.


Still doesn't explain your status, internet fails on me too now and
then, I just restart the download. But I have good bandwidth.
Do you have slow DSL, poor reliability, Modem even?

I'm not up on download managers, but in "the old days" I used some
manager to "restart" the download or pick up where you left off at
least. I'm almost sure it was in Firefox. Others can chime in on
this kind of option.



 




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