After getting 8.1 we do what?

After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold comes out?

On 08 Feb 2014, "espectador" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold
comes out?

What??? You make no sense.

"Nil" escreveu na mensagem ...

On 08 Feb 2014, "espectador" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold
comes out?

What??? You make no sense.
that's because I'm your friend.

On 2/08/2014, espectador posted:
"Nil" escreveu na mensagem
...

On 08 Feb 2014, "espectador" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold
comes out?

What??? You make no sense.
that's because I'm your friend.

You should always update whichever OS you are running, since the
updates include fixing security bugs.

Not everyone agrees with me, but that's my opinion anyway.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

espectador wrote:
After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold comes out?

It's unlikely the basics for updating or upgrading will change.

A new o/s edition is a fee based release that can upgrade over some
previous editions or clean install.

An update to an existing o/s (e.g. Windows 7 RTM to Windows 7 SP1 or
Windows 8.0 to 8.1) is a free upgrade.

What has changed with 8.1 only three MSFT supported routes are available
to obtain (it)
- purchase new pc
- purchase full version from MSFT or retailer (no upgrade version
available or applicable to Win7 and earlier)
- update to 8.1 from 8.0 via the MSFT Store

Note: Full version can be used to (1) upgrade 8.0 to 8.1 by running
setup.exe on the 8.1 DVD from within 8.0 or (2) clean install.



--
....winston
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On 09/02/2014 00:05, espectador wrote:
After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold comes
out?

My plan is to upgrade to 8.1.1 if it comes out but apart from that I
don't update with monthly patches. Security or no security; I am
pretty safe when it comes to visiting sites. I have a very small list
of sites I visit and they are all top blue-chip companies. Every 6
months I go to Windows update to see how many patches I am missing and
which ones are worth installing.

When I get any emails with attachments, I don't open them unless I know
who sent it to me. Scripts are almost disabled from my browsers; they
are only enabled if I get a message saying that scripts can't be run
blah blah blah AND only if I am interested to know what they are about.

Apart from all this I practice safe HEX.


--
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On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 04:30:15 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:

My plan is to upgrade to 8.1.1 if it comes out but apart from that I
don't update with monthly patches. Security or no security; I am
pretty safe when it comes to visiting sites. I have a very small list
of sites I visit and they are all top blue-chip companies. Every 6
months I go to Windows update to see how many patches I am missing and
which ones are worth installing.

When I get any emails with attachments, I don't open them unless I know
who sent it to me. Scripts are almost disabled from my browsers; they
are only enabled if I get a message saying that scripts can't be run
blah blah blah AND only if I am interested to know what they are about.

Apart from all this I practice safe HEX.

One of the more obvious security holes is "When I get any emails with
attachments, I don't open them unless I know who sent it to me."

"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
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On 2/08/2014, espectador posted:
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On 08 Feb 2014, "espectador" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold
comes out?

What??? You make no sense.
that's because I'm your friend.

You should always update whichever OS you are running, since the
updates include fixing security bugs.

Not everyone agrees with me, but that's my opinion anyway.

True, but let us be more truthful. You also get the new bugs introduced
in the updates, new security holes, possible compatibility problems with
your drivers and applications, and a slim possibility of total
unbootable OS after the update. So many possibilities and so little
time. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center

Lift up your leg and fart.

espectador wrote:

After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold comes out?

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On Sat, 08 Feb 2014 17:54:14 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/08/2014, espectador posted:
"Nil" escreveu na mensagem
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On 08 Feb 2014, "espectador" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold
comes out?

What??? You make no sense.
that's because I'm your friend.

You should always update whichever OS you are running, since the
updates include fixing security bugs.

Not everyone agrees with me, but that's my opinion anyway.


I agree with you, so I'll say "ditto!"

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 04:30:15 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:


My plan is to upgrade to 8.1.1 if it comes out but apart from that I
don't update with monthly patches.


Your choice, of course, but as far as I'm concerned you're making a
bad mistake.


Security or no security; I am
pretty safe when it comes to visiting sites.


Glad to hear it. But you could be safer.


I have a very small list
of sites I visit and they are all top blue-chip companies. Every 6
months I go to Windows update to see how many patches I am missing and
which ones are worth installing.

When I get any emails with attachments, I don't open them unless I know
who sent it to me.


You often see advice not to open attachments from people you don't
know. I think that that's one of the most dangerous pieces of advice
you see around, because it implies that it's safe to do the
opposite--open attachments from friends and relatives. But many
viruses spread by sending themselves to everyone in the infected
party's address book, so attachments received from friends are perhaps
the *most* risky to open.

Even if the attachment legitimately comes from a friend, it can
contain a virus. I'm not suggesting that a friend is likely to send
you a virus on purpose, but if the friend is infected without
realizing it, any attachment he sends you is likely to also be
infected.

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:37:36 -0600, BillW50 wrote:


True, but let us be more truthful. You also get the new bugs introduced
in the updates, new security holes, possible compatibility problems with
your drivers and applications, and a slim possibility of total
unbootable OS after the update. So many possibilities and so little
time. ;-)

The troubled minds of all paranoiacs, be it from virus, bad updates,
stupid operator errors etc. can be soothed if only those folks would do
both a system save and image backup or both. Macrium free will do your
backup while you work, although I prefer to let it run unattended. A bad
update can be undone, but a good virus(excuse the term), will probably
wipe out restore points.

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 03:37:36 -0600, BillW50 wrote:

True, but let us be more truthful. You also get the new bugs
introduced in the updates, new security holes, possible compatibility
problems with your drivers and applications, and a slim possibility
of total unbootable OS after the update. So many possibilities and so
little time. ;-)

The troubled minds of all paranoiacs, be it from virus, bad updates,
stupid operator errors etc. can be soothed if only those folks would
do both a system save and image backup or both. Macrium free will do
your backup while you work, although I prefer to let it run
unattended. A bad update can be undone, but a good virus(excuse the
term), will probably wipe out restore points.

I actually prefer cloning for backing up. As when cloned, put the
original drive away for safe keeping and run off of the clone. That way
you can be sure it was cloned perfectly. XXClone (freeware), Acronis,
Paragon, etc. are all good for cloning.

And speaking about bad updates. I got an update recently on one of my
Windows 7 machines. And now if I walk away for say 15 minutes or so,
I'll return to the dreaded Blue Screen of Death. I probably won't spend
a lot of time trying to figure out what went wrong, as I could always
pop in an earlier cloned copy and just forget updating that machine. ;-)

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 Pro w/Media Center

On 09/02/2014 3:37 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 04:30:15 +0000, Good Guy
wrote:


My plan is to upgrade to 8.1.1 if it comes out but apart from that I
don't update with monthly patches.


Your choice, of course, but as far as I'm concerned you're making a
bad mistake.


Security or no security; I am
pretty safe when it comes to visiting sites.


Glad to hear it. But you could be safer.


I have a very small list
of sites I visit and they are all top blue-chip companies. Every 6
months I go to Windows update to see how many patches I am missing and
which ones are worth installing.

When I get any emails with attachments, I don't open them unless I know
who sent it to me.


You often see advice not to open attachments from people you don't
know. I think that that's one of the most dangerous pieces of advice
you see around, because it implies that it's safe to do the
opposite--open attachments from friends and relatives. But many
viruses spread by sending themselves to everyone in the infected
party's address book, so attachments received from friends are perhaps
the *most* risky to open.

Even if the attachment legitimately comes from a friend, it can
contain a virus. I'm not suggesting that a friend is likely to send
you a virus on purpose, but if the friend is infected without
realizing it, any attachment he sends you is likely to also be
infected.



Absolutely correct. The only attachments one should open are those whose
arrival has been notified in advance by a reputable source. It shouldn't
matter, a decent antivirus should catch them anyway - but plainly
obviously many people don't use a good antivirus, so it *does* matter.

--
Bob - Tetbury, Gloucestershire, UK

You know you're old when "getting lucky" means finding your car in the
car park.

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 18:43:23 +0000, Bob Henson
wrote:

On 09/02/2014 3:37 PM, Ken Blake, MVP wrote:


You often see advice not to open attachments from people you don't
know. I think that that's one of the most dangerous pieces of advice
you see around, because it implies that it's safe to do the
opposite--open attachments from friends and relatives. But many
viruses spread by sending themselves to everyone in the infected
party's address book, so attachments received from friends are perhaps
the *most* risky to open.

Even if the attachment legitimately comes from a friend, it can
contain a virus. I'm not suggesting that a friend is likely to send
you a virus on purpose, but if the friend is infected without
realizing it, any attachment he sends you is likely to also be
infected.



Absolutely correct. The only attachments one should open are those whose
arrival has been notified in advance by a reputable source. It shouldn't
matter, a decent antivirus should catch them anyway - but plainly
obviously many people don't use a good antivirus, so it *does* matter.


And no matter how good the anti-virus is, and no matter how frequently
it is updated, there are always new viruses that have hit the streets
since the last update. No anti-virus can ever be perfect.