After getting 8.1 we do what?

"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
And no matter how good the anti-virus is, and no matter how frequently
it is updated, there are always new viruses that have hit the streets
since the last update. No anti-virus can ever be perfect.

Oh sure they can. For example the Maxthon browser was the first browser
to stop zero day viruses right in their tracks.

http://www.prnasia.com/pr/10/01/100058511-1.html

And I am sure other anti-virus programs are doing what Avast is doing
now, that is to run anything new in a sandbox. As that way, anything
malicious is stuck in a box and can't get out to do any harm.

Windows Embedded is also virus proof. The whole OS is treated as read
only and nothing can write to it. So it can never be infected with
anything. The administrator can unlock this feature, but why would you
want to?

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Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1

On 2/09/2014, BillW50 posted:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
And no matter how good the anti-virus is, and no matter how
frequently
it is updated, there are always new viruses that have hit the
streets
since the last update. No anti-virus can ever be perfect.

Oh sure they can. For example the Maxthon browser was the first
browser
to stop zero day viruses right in their tracks.

Every single ine?

http://www.prnasia.com/pr/10/01/100058511-1.html

404.

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:53:59 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/09/2014, BillW50 posted:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
And no matter how good the anti-virus is, and no matter how
frequently
it is updated, there are always new viruses that have hit the
streets
since the last update. No anti-virus can ever be perfect.

Oh sure they can. For example the Maxthon browser was the first
browser
to stop zero day viruses right in their tracks.

Every single ine?


As much as I like Maxthon, what he says is clearly impossible.

On 2/09/2014, Ken Blake, MVP posted:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:53:59 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/09/2014, BillW50 posted:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
And no matter how good the anti-virus is, and no matter how
frequently
it is updated, there are always new viruses that have hit the
streets
since the last update. No anti-virus can ever be perfect.
Oh sure they can. For example the Maxthon browser was the first
browser
to stop zero day viruses right in their tracks.

Every single ine?


As much as I like Maxthon, what he says is clearly impossible.

Well, for one thing my (misspelled[1]) question was meant to indicate
that one could never know with certainty :-)

AKA, I agree with you 100%.

[1] "ine" meant "one", which would have been fixed by a more careful
poster...

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"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
...
On 2/09/2014, BillW50 posted:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
And no matter how good the anti-virus is, and no matter how
frequently it is updated, there are always new viruses that have hit
the streets since the last update. No anti-virus can ever be
perfect.

Oh sure they can. For example the Maxthon browser was the first
browser to stop zero day viruses right in their tracks.

Every single ine?

Yup. It is called sandboxing.

http://www.prnasia.com/pr/10/01/100058511-1.html

404.

Okay whenever an URL fails because it is old, check the WayBack Machine.

Maxthon Beats Microsoft to the Punch
Creating Barrier to Zero-day Attacks
http://web.archive.org/web/201004260...0058511-1.html

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Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1

BillW50 wrote :
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
...
On 2/08/2014, espectador posted:
"Nil" escreveu na mensagem
...

On 08 Feb 2014, "espectador" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

What??? You make no sense.
that's because I'm your friend.

You should always update whichever OS you are running, since the
updates include fixing security bugs.

Not everyone agrees with me, but that's my opinion anyway.

True, but let us be more truthful. You also get the new bugs
introduced in the updates, new security holes, possible compatibility
problems with your drivers and applications, and a slim possibility
of total unbootable OS after the update. So many possibilities and so
little time. ;-)

Just my opinoin but I fear those more when a new version is
released than when an update is released. (Please excuse any
spelling errors, my hands are shaking more than normal)

Ed from E Texas

BillW50 wrote:
"Gene E. Bloch" wrote in message
...
On 2/08/2014, espectador posted:
"Nil" escreveu na mensagem
...

On 08 Feb 2014, "espectador" wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-8:

After we get 8.1 must we update system till 2105 when threshold
comes out?

What??? You make no sense.
that's because I'm your friend.

You should always update whichever OS you are running, since the
updates include fixing security bugs.

Not everyone agrees with me, but that's my opinion anyway.

True, but let us be more truthful. You also get the new bugs introduced
in the updates, new security holes, possible compatibility problems with
your drivers and applications, and a slim possibility of total
unbootable OS after the update. So many possibilities and so little
time. ;-)


I've been using Windows since Windows 95 and never had a problem with
Windows or Microsoft products updates. I just installed Win 8.1 and
there were a whole lot of updates but it went like silk with no problems.

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Blue

On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 16:31:16 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/09/2014, Ken Blake, MVP posted:
On Sun, 09 Feb 2014 15:53:59 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/09/2014, BillW50 posted:
"Ken Blake, MVP" wrote in message
...
And no matter how good the anti-virus is, and no matter how
frequently
it is updated, there are always new viruses that have hit the
streets
since the last update. No anti-virus can ever be perfect.
Oh sure they can. For example the Maxthon browser was the first
browser
to stop zero day viruses right in their tracks.

Every single ine?


As much as I like Maxthon, what he says is clearly impossible.

Well, for one thing my (misspelled[1]) question was meant to indicate
that one could never know with certainty :-)

AKA, I agree with you 100%.


I know G My post was simply to agree with you.


[1] "ine" meant "one", which would have been fixed by a more careful
poster...


I also knew what "ine" was a typo for.

On 2/10/2014, Ken Blake, MVP posted:
[1] "ine" meant "one", which would have been fixed by a more
careful
poster...

I also knew what "ine" was a typo for.

Well, then, why didn't you tell me? I surely needed the help :-)

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:01:05 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/10/2014, Ken Blake, MVP posted:
[1] "ine" meant "one", which would have been fixed by a more
careful
poster...

I also knew what "ine" was a typo for.

Well, then, why didn't you tell me? I surely needed the help :-)


Ine ever thought you did!

installing all updates

True, but let us be more truthful. You also get the new bugs introduced
in the updates, new security holes, possible compatibility problems with
your drivers and applications, and a slim possibility of total
unbootable OS after the update. So many possibilities and so little
time. ;-)

Very true.

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and having to visit 10 different news stands to pickup each one.
Email list-server groups and USENET are like having all of those
newspapers delivered to your door every morning.

On 2/10/2014, Ken Blake, MVP posted:
On Mon, 10 Feb 2014 12:01:05 -0800, Gene E. Bloch
wrote:

On 2/10/2014, Ken Blake, MVP posted:
[1] "ine" meant "one", which would have been fixed by a more
careful
poster...

I also knew what "ine" was a typo for.

Well, then, why didn't you tell me? I surely needed the help :-)


Ine ever thought you did!

That's *funny*!

Still laughing...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)

"Blue" wrote in message
...
BillW50 wrote:
I've been using Windows since Windows 95 and never had a problem with
Windows or Microsoft products updates. I just installed Win 8.1 and
there were a whole lot of updates but it went like silk with no
problems.

Really? MS Office 97 never crashed on you? And Windows 98 bugs were okay
with you? So you didn't bother purchasing 98SE? And how did Windows ME
work out for you? Still using it today and is it running just fine? And
how is Vista working out for you? Never saw any bugs? And you installed
SP3 on your HP AMD processor XP machine and XP still booted afterwards?

Funny, Microsoft in their license agreement isn't as assuring as you
are. Because they claim they are not responsible for any loses or
damages that are caused by their software. I wonder why they are so
unsure of their products? You think they know something that we don't?

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1

"Ed Propes" wrote in message
...
BillW50 wrote :
True, but let us be more truthful. You also get the new bugs
introduced in the updates, new security holes, possible compatibility
problems with your drivers and applications, and a slim possibility
of total unbootable OS after the update. So many possibilities and so
little time. ;-)

Just my opinoin but I fear those more when a new version is released
than when an update is released. (Please excuse any spelling errors,
my hands are shaking more than normal)

Yes, it isn't too much fun playing the guinea pig. :-(

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Windows Live Mail 2009 v14
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 7 Home SP1

On 2/10/2014, BillW50 posted:
Funny, Microsoft in their license agreement isn't as assuring as you
are. Because they claim they are not responsible for any loses or
damages that are caused by their software. I wonder why they are so
unsure of their products? You think they know something that we
don't?

*Every* EULA says that.

OK, 90%...

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Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)