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Old March 5th 14, 11:00 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Windows XP registry contains 5 main keys.
If one saves a .reg file(5 files) of each key for
future use.
Or may be a one reg file for whole registry which
would be about 150 MB in .reg size.

Will it be workable in trouble time in future?



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Old March 5th 14, 06:14 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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AAH wrote:
Windows XP registry contains 5 main keys.
If one saves a .reg file(5 files) of each key for
future use.
Or may be a one reg file for whole registry which
would be about 150 MB in .reg size.

Will it be workable in trouble time in future?




They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.

http://www.winxptutor.com/regback.htm

http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt/

One restoration procedure, involves using recovery console,
and moving the files you want to use, into place. This particular
example, moves "empty" registry files into place first, so that
the computer can run, then uses System Restore and the last
restore point, to put "proper" registry files in place. But
using the same methodology, you could always take a backup
set of registry files and install them.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307545

Registry files get changed when you install new programs,
or when you change settings (like, the security settings
in Internet Explorer). So you would need to make
a fresh set fairly frequently, for them to be any good.
WinXP makes System Restore points once a day, and that's
a way to capture the registry. Later Windows, only make
System Restore points once a week.

http://bertk.mvps.org/html/description.html

When Windows is completely shut down, that would be a time
when some other OS could take a snapshot of the registry files.
So if you dual boot, that's another way you could be
keeping copies of the registry file set.

The problem with relying on System Restore, is malware.
If malware gets on the machine, you can't trust any of
the restore points, and consequently the registry files
in SR might be relatively useless to you. That's when a separately
captured set might be of some value. It all depends on whether
you've been capturing corrupted (by malware) registry entries
for days on end, as to whether they're good or not.

Paul
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Old March 5th 14, 07:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.



I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.

  #4  
Old March 5th 14, 07:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:46:56 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.



I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.



Ignore the above (unless by chance that's enough information). I
accidentally pressed Send before I was ready. I'll send it again
tomorrow with more information.

  #5  
Old March 6th 14, 04:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:48:59 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:46:56 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.



I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.



Ignore the above (unless by chance that's enough information). I
accidentally pressed Send before I was ready. I'll send it again
tomorrow with more information.




OK, here's what happens:

I get the message

Unable to create file
C:\WINDOWS\ERDNT\3-6-2014\erdnt.inf


Then if I proceed, I get the message

[RegCreateKeyEx:5 - Access Denied}

I get that message multiple times, with each file.

If I then reinstall Erunt, it runs fine, but just that one time. The
next time I try to run it, it fails the same way.

Any suggestions as to what's wrong and how to fix it?

  #6  
Old March 6th 14, 07:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:48:59 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:46:56 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.

I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.


Ignore the above (unless by chance that's enough information). I
accidentally pressed Send before I was ready. I'll send it again
tomorrow with more information.




OK, here's what happens:

I get the message

Unable to create file
C:\WINDOWS\ERDNT\3-6-2014\erdnt.inf


Then if I proceed, I get the message

[RegCreateKeyEx:5 - Access Denied}

I get that message multiple times, with each file.

If I then reinstall Erunt, it runs fine, but just that one time. The
next time I try to run it, it fails the same way.

Any suggestions as to what's wrong and how to fix it?


It's in C:\WINDOWS . Some kind of file protection, like
changing the permissions on the folder, after the fact ?

Paul
  #7  
Old March 6th 14, 07:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:29:42 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:48:59 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:46:56 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.

I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.

Ignore the above (unless by chance that's enough information). I
accidentally pressed Send before I was ready. I'll send it again
tomorrow with more information.




OK, here's what happens:

I get the message

Unable to create file
C:\WINDOWS\ERDNT\3-6-2014\erdnt.inf


Then if I proceed, I get the message

[RegCreateKeyEx:5 - Access Denied}

I get that message multiple times, with each file.

If I then reinstall Erunt, it runs fine, but just that one time. The
next time I try to run it, it fails the same way.

Any suggestions as to what's wrong and how to fix it?


It's in C:\WINDOWS . Some kind of file protection, like
changing the permissions on the folder, after the fact ?




If so, it's something relatively new. Until a couple of weeks ago,
this never happened.

Any idea what it might be?
  #8  
Old March 6th 14, 07:45 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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Default Windows XP Reg Files

On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:29:42 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:48:59 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:46:56 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.

I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.

Ignore the above (unless by chance that's enough information). I
accidentally pressed Send before I was ready. I'll send it again
tomorrow with more information.




OK, here's what happens:

I get the message

Unable to create file
C:\WINDOWS\ERDNT\3-6-2014\erdnt.inf


Then if I proceed, I get the message

[RegCreateKeyEx:5 - Access Denied}

I get that message multiple times, with each file.

If I then reinstall Erunt, it runs fine, but just that one time. The
next time I try to run it, it fails the same way.

Any suggestions as to what's wrong and how to fix it?


It's in C:\WINDOWS . Some kind of file protection, like
changing the permissions on the folder, after the fact ?




I just tried reinstalling it again, this time not in C:\Windows, but
in a folder on D: (a different physical drive).

The same thing happened. It ran without a problem, but if I then try
to rerun it, it fails the same way.

  #9  
Old March 6th 14, 08:34 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:29:42 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:48:59 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:46:56 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.
I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.
Ignore the above (unless by chance that's enough information). I
accidentally pressed Send before I was ready. I'll send it again
tomorrow with more information.


OK, here's what happens:

I get the message

Unable to create file
C:\WINDOWS\ERDNT\3-6-2014\erdnt.inf


Then if I proceed, I get the message

[RegCreateKeyEx:5 - Access Denied}

I get that message multiple times, with each file.

If I then reinstall Erunt, it runs fine, but just that one time. The
next time I try to run it, it fails the same way.

Any suggestions as to what's wrong and how to fix it?

It's in C:\WINDOWS . Some kind of file protection, like
changing the permissions on the folder, after the fact ?




I just tried reinstalling it again, this time not in C:\Windows, but
in a folder on D: (a different physical drive).

The same thing happened. It ran without a problem, but if I then try
to rerun it, it fails the same way.


I tested here, met resistance, and I tried this instead.

Type "erunt" into start, and when Windows 7 finds it,
right-click and select "Run as Administrator".

If that works for you, perhaps looking into "RunAs" and
making a permanent shortcut for it, can arrange for the
program to be elevated all the time, when run to do a
backup.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc771525.aspx

Paul
  #10  
Old March 6th 14, 09:13 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 15:34:49 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:29:42 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:48:59 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:46:56 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.
I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.
Ignore the above (unless by chance that's enough information). I
accidentally pressed Send before I was ready. I'll send it again
tomorrow with more information.


OK, here's what happens:

I get the message

Unable to create file
C:\WINDOWS\ERDNT\3-6-2014\erdnt.inf


Then if I proceed, I get the message

[RegCreateKeyEx:5 - Access Denied}

I get that message multiple times, with each file.

If I then reinstall Erunt, it runs fine, but just that one time. The
next time I try to run it, it fails the same way.

Any suggestions as to what's wrong and how to fix it?

It's in C:\WINDOWS . Some kind of file protection, like
changing the permissions on the folder, after the fact ?




I just tried reinstalling it again, this time not in C:\Windows, but
in a folder on D: (a different physical drive).

The same thing happened. It ran without a problem, but if I then try
to rerun it, it fails the same way.


I tested here, met resistance, and I tried this instead.

Type "erunt" into start, and when Windows 7 finds it,
right-click and select "Run as Administrator".




That did it! Thanks very much. I should have thought of that myself,
but I didn't, probably because it changed to not working so abruptly.



If that works for you, perhaps looking into "RunAs" and
making a permanent shortcut for it, can arrange for the
program to be elevated all the time, when run to do a
backup.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc771525.aspx




I basically run it every morning as a scheduled task. In that
scheduled task, I just checked the box "Run with highest privileges,"
and I hope that fixes it there.

  #11  
Old March 7th 14, 12:31 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 15:34:49 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 14:29:42 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:48:59 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 12:46:56 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Wed, 05 Mar 2014 13:14:17 -0500, Paul wrote:


They use ERUNT here. And if you make a restore point,
it contains a copy of the registry files as well.
I use Erunt here too (on Windows 8.1). For the last couple of weeks
I've been having an odd problem with it; perhaps you or someone else
here can help me with it.


If I reinstall it, it runs fine. If I then try to run it again, it
doesn't--not until I reinstall it again.
Ignore the above (unless by chance that's enough information). I
accidentally pressed Send before I was ready. I'll send it again
tomorrow with more information.

OK, here's what happens:

I get the message

Unable to create file
C:\WINDOWS\ERDNT\3-6-2014\erdnt.inf


Then if I proceed, I get the message

[RegCreateKeyEx:5 - Access Denied}

I get that message multiple times, with each file.

If I then reinstall Erunt, it runs fine, but just that one time. The
next time I try to run it, it fails the same way.

Any suggestions as to what's wrong and how to fix it?

It's in C:\WINDOWS . Some kind of file protection, like
changing the permissions on the folder, after the fact ?


I just tried reinstalling it again, this time not in C:\Windows, but
in a folder on D: (a different physical drive).

The same thing happened. It ran without a problem, but if I then try
to rerun it, it fails the same way.

I tested here, met resistance, and I tried this instead.

Type "erunt" into start, and when Windows 7 finds it,
right-click and select "Run as Administrator".




That did it! Thanks very much. I should have thought of that myself,
but I didn't, probably because it changed to not working so abruptly.


If that works for you, perhaps looking into "RunAs" and
making a permanent shortcut for it, can arrange for the
program to be elevated all the time, when run to do a
backup.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../cc771525.aspx




I basically run it every morning as a scheduled task. In that
scheduled task, I just checked the box "Run with highest privileges,"
and I hope that fixes it there.


I should have triggered on your error number sooner.

If, with a modern OS, you see "error 5" in the dialog,
then bumping yourself to Administrator is likely to fix
it. I ran into that the first time, when trying to run
PTEDIT32 (MBR editor) in Windows 7. And it needed
to be run as administrator (just like the functional
equivalent in Linux would have needed).

Paul
  #12  
Old March 7th 14, 03:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 19:31:02 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:


I basically run it every morning as a scheduled task. In that
scheduled task, I just checked the box "Run with highest privileges,"
and I hope that fixes it there.


I should have triggered on your error number sooner.

If, with a modern OS, you see "error 5" in the dialog,
then bumping yourself to Administrator is likely to fix
it.




I didn't know that, so thanks for that info too!

And checking the box in the taste scheduler "Run with highest
privileges" worked fine. All is back to normal now. Thanks again.

  #13  
Old March 7th 14, 04:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 08:44:05 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 19:31:02 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:


I basically run it every morning as a scheduled task. In that
scheduled task, I just checked the box "Run with highest privileges,"
and I hope that fixes it there.


I should have triggered on your error number sooner.

If, with a modern OS, you see "error 5" in the dialog,
then bumping yourself to Administrator is likely to fix
it.




I didn't know that, so thanks for that info too!

And checking the box in the taste scheduler "Run with highest



Some of my typos boggle my imagination. Where did "taste" come from?
It should be "task," of course.

It's also amazing to me that I don't see a typo when I type it, but I
immediately see it when I read my message later.





privileges" worked fine. All is back to normal now. Thanks again.

  #14  
Old March 7th 14, 08:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 08:44:05 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

On Thu, 06 Mar 2014 19:31:02 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
I basically run it every morning as a scheduled task. In that
scheduled task, I just checked the box "Run with highest privileges,"
and I hope that fixes it there.

I should have triggered on your error number sooner.

If, with a modern OS, you see "error 5" in the dialog,
then bumping yourself to Administrator is likely to fix
it.



I didn't know that, so thanks for that info too!

And checking the box in the taste scheduler "Run with highest



Some of my typos boggle my imagination. Where did "taste" come from?
It should be "task," of course.

It's also amazing to me that I don't see a typo when I type it, but I
immediately see it when I read my message later.


I notice I make those mistakes too, and they
seem to be getting worse with time.

It's like your brain is taking a shortcut, and saying
"this particular *sound* is spelled this particular way".
The sound (in your head), of "Taste" is similar enough
to "Task", to leap to the wrong conclusion.

Maybe if you were a Tech Writer, and not drafting
conversational English as much, this kind of "optimization"
wouldn't happen.

Paul
  #15  
Old March 7th 14, 09:09 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Fri, 07 Mar 2014 15:53:14 -0500, Paul wrote:

Ken Blake, MVP wrote:


And checking the box in the taste scheduler "Run with highest



Some of my typos boggle my imagination. Where did "taste" come from?
It should be "task," of course.

It's also amazing to me that I don't see a typo when I type it, but I
immediately see it when I read my message later.


I notice I make those mistakes too, and they
seem to be getting worse with time.




Ah, so you're getting older too? g



It's like your brain is taking a shortcut, and saying
"this particular *sound* is spelled this particular way".
The sound (in your head), of "Taste" is similar enough
to "Task", to leap to the wrong conclusion.



Yes! My understanding is that that's what happens.


Maybe if you were a Tech Writer, and not drafting
conversational English as much, this kind of "optimization"
wouldn't happen.



I've done a fair amount of tech writing in my time, I still do some of
it, and I'm probably about to begin a new tech writing undertaking.

And despite the errors I myself make and don't see, I'm also very good
at proofreading what others have written.
 




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