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Old December 4th 15, 03:16 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...fosamax_pi.pdf

Is there a simpler way to remove them than going word by word?

I have notepad++ for example, and if I turn something on in View, it
gives a reverse image of CR and LF, but I can't manage to copy either
of them to put them in the Find box.

I have editpad lite, but I can't even figure out how to show the CR/LF
(maybe because it's meant for writing code?)

Eudora has Find but not Replace.


FTR, I'm not even planning on republishing a copyrighted file. I just
want to copy 3 paragraphs of it for my own notes, in a text, non-pdf
file.
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Old December 4th 15, 06:07 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

Micky wrote:
I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...fosamax_pi.pdf

Is there a simpler way to remove them than going word by word?

I have notepad++ for example, and if I turn something on in View, it
gives a reverse image of CR and LF, but I can't manage to copy either
of them to put them in the Find box.

I have editpad lite, but I can't even figure out how to show the CR/LF
(maybe because it's meant for writing code?)

Eudora has Find but not Replace.

FTR, I'm not even planning on republishing a copyrighted file. I just
want to copy 3 paragraphs of it for my own notes, in a text, non-pdf
file.


What is it that you are trying to do?
I don't see control characters except at EOL and can easily
copy and paste into notepad, word, etc.
  #3  
Old December 4th 15, 06:36 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Computer Nerd Kev[_2_]
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

Micky wrote:
I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...fosamax_pi.pdf

Is there a simpler way to remove them than going word by word?

I have notepad++ for example, and if I turn something on in View, it
gives a reverse image of CR and LF, but I can't manage to copy either
of them to put them in the Find box.


I'm a bit confused about what can be causing all the line-feeds mid way
through text, but in any case I know that notepad++ can remove line feeds.

It's a function of the "find and replace" system. I have a file with
instructions about how to use it to remove line feeds from line wrapped
text files, but unfortunately my XP PC is mid way through resurrection
after a HDD failure at the moment, and it's a bit of trouble to get to
those notes. So I can't tell you the exact parameters for the "find" box,
but they are in the notepad++ documentation (something like "/n" means
line break). I had to do two passes with "find and replace" to fix the
line wrapping, but you might be able to do everything in one.

If you happen to have LibreOffice installed, pasting the text into that,
then choosing an option called something like autocorrect or autoformat
may fix the problem. It is another way to remove line wrapping from text
files, I don't know if it would be smart enough to fix the problem you're
having though.

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Old December 4th 15, 07:22 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

[Default] On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 00:07:46 -0600, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

Micky wrote:
I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...fosamax_pi.pdf

Is there a simpler way to remove them than going word by word?

I have notepad++ for example, and if I turn something on in View, it
gives a reverse image of CR and LF, but I can't manage to copy either
of them to put them in the Find box.

I have editpad lite, but I can't even figure out how to show the CR/LF
(maybe because it's meant for writing code?)

Eudora has Find but not Replace.

FTR, I'm not even planning on republishing a copyrighted file. I just
want to copy 3 paragraphs of it for my own notes, in a text, non-pdf
file.


What is it that you are trying to do?


Get rid of the Carriage Return and Line Feed on each line.

I don't see control characters except at EOL and can easily
copy and paste into notepad, word, etc.


I can copy and paste it too, but it's hard to read! When I try to do
a few paragraphs, it looks like what's below. For you, did it not
look like this:

HIGHLIGHTS OF PRESCR
IBING INFORMA
TION
These
highlights
do
not
include
all
the
information
needed
to
use
FOSA
MA
X
safely
a
nd
effectively
..
See
full
prescribin
g
information
for FOSA
MA
X
..
FOSA
MA
X
®
(alendronate sodium) tablets
, for oral use
FOSA
MA
X
®
(alendronat
e sodium)
oral solution
Initial U.S. A
pproval:
1995
---------------------------
RECENT MA
JOR CHA
NGES
---------------------------
Wa
rnings and Precautions
(5.4)
2/2015
----------------------------
INDICA
TIONS A
ND USA
GE
----------------------------
FOSAMAX is a bisphosphonate
indicated for:
?
Treatment
and
prevention
of
osteoporosis
in
postmenopausal
wom
en (1
..1, 1.2
)
?
Treatment to increase bone mass in men with osteoporosis (1
..3)
?
Treatment of glucocorticoid
-
induced osteoporosis (1.4)
?
Treatment of Paget's disease of bone (1.5)
L
imitations of use:
O
ptimal
duration
of
use
has
not
been
determined.
F
or
patients
at
low
-
risk
for fracture
,
c
onsider drug discontinuation after 3 to 5 years of use
..
(1.6)
-----------------------
DOSA
GE A
ND A
DMINISTRA
TION
------------------------
?
Treatment
of
osteoporosis
in
postmenopausal
wom
en
and
in
men:
10 mg daily or 70 mg (tablet or oral solution) once weekly
..
(2.1, 2.3)
?
Prevention
of
ost
eoporosis
in

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Old December 4th 15, 07:49 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Good Guy[_2_]
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

On 04/12/2015 03:16, Micky wrote:


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...fosamax_pi.pdf

Is there a simpler way to remove them than going word by word?



Yes use a decent browser and/or save the file and open it in pdf reader.

No Problems Here http://s12.postimg.org/kte5edl7h/2015_12_04_0745.png

Also use a decent email client such as:

Microsoft Outlook
Mozilla Thunderbird
Nothing else can compete with these two.

Good luck.




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Old December 4th 15, 08:02 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

[Default] On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 06:36:09 +0000 (UTC), in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general lid (Computer
Nerd Kev) wrote:

Micky wrote:
I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?


I wonder if they do this to make it harder to copy their files. There
are other ways however. I have a manual for a 50cc motorscooter which
says in the properties that you can't copy from it, and you can't.

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...fosamax_pi.pdf

Is there a simpler way to remove them than going word by word?

I have notepad++ for example, and if I turn something on in View, it
gives a reverse image of CR and LF, but I can't manage to copy either
of them to put them in the Find box.


I'm a bit confused about what can be causing all the line-feeds mid way


I think I saw this once before, and the odds are minuscule that it was
also a Merck page. It might have also been a pdf.

through text, but in any case I know that notepad++ can remove line feeds.

It's a function of the "find and replace" system. I have a file with
instructions about how to use it to remove line feeds from line wrapped
text files, but unfortunately my XP PC is mid way through resurrection
after a HDD failure at the moment, and it's a bit of trouble to get to


Don't go looking for it. I can read the ++ Help file, etc.

those notes. So I can't tell you the exact parameters for the "find" box,
but they are in the notepad++ documentation (something like "/n" means


I found \n in the search box. That's LF and replacing it with
nothing got rid of it. There is Replace All, which I havent' seen
iirc since SPF. That's very nice.

There is also \r \t \0 \x and maybe more, one of which must mean CR.
This is enough progress for one night, given that I don't have a file
that needs editing anymore. If the next one is more than 3 short
paragraphs, this will be very valuable. Glad I asked. Thanks.

line break). I had to do two passes with "find and replace" to fix the
line wrapping, but you might be able to do everything in one.


I thought I was done but I kept looking. I couldn't find a Help file
for ++ (only command line options, which didn't include these)
So I googled notepad++ \n and the first hit was in
superuser.com. It was a little confused but it still gave me the
other half, \r . (stackoverflow.com had the info also.)

Replacing All the \r with nil put it all in one paragraph.

So it takes 2 actions but that's only one more than 1.

Thanks a lot. (It pays to ask.)

If you happen to have LibreOffice installed, pasting the text into that,
then choosing an option called something like autocorrect or autoformat
may fix the problem. It is another way to remove line wrapping from text
files, I don't know if it would be smart enough to fix the problem you're
having though.

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Old December 4th 15, 08:06 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

[Default] On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 03:02:45 -0500, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Micky
wrote:

I had to do two passes with "find and replace" to fix the
line wrapping, but you might be able to do everything in one.


Replacing All the \r with nil put it all in one paragraph.

So it takes 2 actions but that's only one more than 1.


Boy am I slow. One can just Replace All \n\r with nil and you're
done. If it's \r\n instead, it shows when you Show symbols / End
of Line. One action.
  #8  
Old December 4th 15, 08:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

[Default] On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 06:36:09 +0000 (UTC), in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general lid (Computer
Nerd Kev) wrote:

So I can't tell you the exact parameters for the "find" box,
but they are in the notepad++ documentation (something like "/n" means
line break).


https://notepad-plus-plus.org/resources.html has Word and PDF versions
of a Cheat Sheet at the bottom of the page. However, it doesn't list
\n, \r or the other \letters! But may list everything else.
  #9  
Old December 4th 15, 04:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

On 12/4/15 1:02 AM, Micky wrote:
[Default] On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 06:36:09 +0000 (UTC), in
lid (Computer
Nerd Kev) wrote:

wrote:
I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?

I wonder if they do this to make it harder to copy their files. There
are other ways however. I have a manual for a 50cc motorscooter which
says in the properties that you can't copy from it, and you can't.


Try this, Micky, but no promises...

Download and install and install a PDF printer driver. Open the PDF
file. Select Print. Choose the new PDF printer driver and save the new
PDF file. Open the new file and see if you can copy paste from the new
file.

I had a friend with the same problem as you. I had him install Nitro
PDF Reader 3, which includes a PDF printer driver. Followed the above
instructions, and we could copy paste from the new document.

I would think other PDF printer drivers may give the same results.

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Old December 4th 15, 06:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/4/15 1:02 AM, Micky wrote:
[Default] On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 06:36:09 +0000 (UTC), in
lid (Computer
Nerd Kev) wrote:

wrote:
I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?

I wonder if they do this to make it harder to copy their files. There
are other ways however. I have a manual for a 50cc motorscooter which
says in the properties that you can't copy from it, and you can't.


Try this, Micky, but no promises...

Download and install and install a PDF printer driver. Open the PDF
file. Select Print. Choose the new PDF printer driver and save the new
PDF file. Open the new file and see if you can copy paste from the new
file.

I had a friend with the same problem as you. I had him install Nitro
PDF Reader 3, which includes a PDF printer driver. Followed the above
instructions, and we could copy paste from the new document.

I would think other PDF printer drivers may give the same results.


The document in question may be using Unicode, in an effort to
capture some pretty unique looking symbols. They have the trademark
symbol. They also have what looks like a bullet symbol, but if you
zoom in, it's a clock icon, all done with a character set.

The tool flow looks ancient. Looking at Document Properties
shows the details.

That doesn't mean the document is "all right" in terms of
its construction - it may be abusing character sets or
locale settings in some way. The author of the document
may be compensating for some problem by doing it that way.

When I copy and paste, I'm *not* seeing the same symptoms.
I see character sequences my current locale can't handle,
like where the clock-symbol appears. But there is no abnormal
sequence after each word. So something else is happening
there.

And so far, no "easy" method of fixing it has worked.
Acrobat actually crashed on me once, when I attempted
to "Select All" and copy. I still have more testing
to do, once I can get at my VM on the other machine.

Some Acrobat setups, resist printing from PDF to PDF.
As that is viewed as an attempt to override document
permissions. Sometimes I go PDF - postscript - PDF,
but the print driver can put blockages in there too.
Sometimes, it requires deleting about 12 lines of stuff
placed in the PostScript .ps on purpose to prevent
re-distillation.

Lots of fun. For a simple requirement of being able
to Copy/Paste.

What Micky is seeing, is the "normal" abuse of word
placement by desktop publishing tools. At one time,
a DTP tool would just dump a string, and rely on
the very nice bearing and glyph rules in the font
itself on the printer.

(My dog has fleas) print

Later, tools started messing with the spacing between
words.

(My) print
moveto 23
(dog) print
moveto 79
(has) print
moveto 106

and the idea is to "enhance" or "override" what the
font handling in the printer (or downstream tool) might
do. Now, if you copy/paste from that, the buffer could
get some sort of strange character in it. They could
even insert an "em-space" on the end of each string,
for added peril.

Now, LibreOffice does stuff like this

(M) print
moveto 7
(y) print
moveto 10
(d) print
moveto 16

and attempts to place each character manually. Which
overrides "fi" ligature or attempts at kerning in the font.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature

The LibreOffice approach is a disaster, when the details
of the font at the viewing end are slightly different.
Now, suddenly, the spacing looks all wrong, as the
screen view applies its own font spacing to "M" say

"M " what Libreoffice assumes the "air space" looks like
"M " what something on your computer is using

Then when you look at the doc on the screen, it looks
like this. Sometimes the edges of letters even overlap.
Because each is rendered separately, and the printer
font layout rules have been completely overridden.

M yd og h asf l eas

These are the perils when DTP tools mess around.
Back in the old days...

(My dog has fleas) print

could certainly foul up, but you could then blame
the font in the printer ROM as being "poor quality",
whereas the ham-fisted "spacing nitwits" in current
tools, basically just ruin it from the get-go.

It's a wonder you can copy and paste this stuff, at all.

Paul
  #11  
Old December 4th 15, 08:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

Paul wrote:
Ken Springer wrote:
On 12/4/15 1:02 AM, Micky wrote:
[Default] On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 06:36:09 +0000 (UTC), in
lid (Computer
Nerd Kev) wrote:

wrote:
I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?
I wonder if they do this to make it harder to copy their files. There
are other ways however. I have a manual for a 50cc motorscooter which
says in the properties that you can't copy from it, and you can't.


Try this, Micky, but no promises...

Download and install and install a PDF printer driver. Open the PDF
file. Select Print. Choose the new PDF printer driver and save the
new PDF file. Open the new file and see if you can copy paste from
the new file.

I had a friend with the same problem as you. I had him install Nitro
PDF Reader 3, which includes a PDF printer driver. Followed the above
instructions, and we could copy paste from the new document.

I would think other PDF printer drivers may give the same results.


The document in question may be using Unicode, in an effort to
capture some pretty unique looking symbols. They have the trademark
symbol. They also have what looks like a bullet symbol, but if you
zoom in, it's a clock icon, all done with a character set.

The tool flow looks ancient. Looking at Document Properties
shows the details.

That doesn't mean the document is "all right" in terms of
its construction - it may be abusing character sets or
locale settings in some way. The author of the document
may be compensating for some problem by doing it that way.

When I copy and paste, I'm *not* seeing the same symptoms.
I see character sequences my current locale can't handle,
like where the clock-symbol appears. But there is no abnormal
sequence after each word. So something else is happening
there.

And so far, no "easy" method of fixing it has worked.
Acrobat actually crashed on me once, when I attempted
to "Select All" and copy. I still have more testing
to do, once I can get at my VM on the other machine.

Some Acrobat setups, resist printing from PDF to PDF.
As that is viewed as an attempt to override document
permissions. Sometimes I go PDF - postscript - PDF,
but the print driver can put blockages in there too.
Sometimes, it requires deleting about 12 lines of stuff
placed in the PostScript .ps on purpose to prevent
re-distillation.

Lots of fun. For a simple requirement of being able
to Copy/Paste.

What Micky is seeing, is the "normal" abuse of word
placement by desktop publishing tools. At one time,
a DTP tool would just dump a string, and rely on
the very nice bearing and glyph rules in the font
itself on the printer.

(My dog has fleas) print

Later, tools started messing with the spacing between
words.

(My) print
moveto 23
(dog) print
moveto 79
(has) print
moveto 106

and the idea is to "enhance" or "override" what the
font handling in the printer (or downstream tool) might
do. Now, if you copy/paste from that, the buffer could
get some sort of strange character in it. They could
even insert an "em-space" on the end of each string,
for added peril.

Now, LibreOffice does stuff like this

(M) print
moveto 7
(y) print
moveto 10
(d) print
moveto 16

and attempts to place each character manually. Which
overrides "fi" ligature or attempts at kerning in the font.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature

The LibreOffice approach is a disaster, when the details
of the font at the viewing end are slightly different.
Now, suddenly, the spacing looks all wrong, as the
screen view applies its own font spacing to "M" say

"M " what Libreoffice assumes the "air space" looks like
"M " what something on your computer is using

Then when you look at the doc on the screen, it looks
like this. Sometimes the edges of letters even overlap.
Because each is rendered separately, and the printer
font layout rules have been completely overridden.

M yd og h asf l eas

These are the perils when DTP tools mess around.
Back in the old days...

(My dog has fleas) print

could certainly foul up, but you could then blame
the font in the printer ROM as being "poor quality",
whereas the ham-fisted "spacing nitwits" in current
tools, basically just ruin it from the get-go.

It's a wonder you can copy and paste this stuff, at all.

Paul


The PDF document, is for this stuff. Some of the articles
in the reference section are dated 1996.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alendronic_acid

The document is an "MS Word For Windows (OLE)" document.
Perhaps prepared back then.

There are some tricks associated with the handling of Symbol
font back then (for the "bullet" symbol in the PDF),
and it's possible one of the rectangles in the copy buffer
is an F0. The document font list includes Symbol.

http://blogs.msdn.com/b/murrays/arch...ord-s-rtf.aspx

But the rest of it handles reasonably well in a copy/paste.
No sign of CRLF sprinkled all over indiscriminately.

I can't copy/paste in Acrobat 6, but the new Acrobat DC
handles it OK (installed in my VM).

Paul
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Old December 4th 15, 09:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul in Houston TX[_2_]
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

Micky wrote:
[Default] On Fri, 04 Dec 2015 00:07:46 -0600, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Paul in Houston TX
wrote:

Micky wrote:
I solved the immediate problem by editing the text in Agent and
rocking two of my fingers back and forth between end and delete, so
there is no rush about the answer here, but I still think it's worth
pursuing.


This is one of a number of pdf files, or webpages, which has CR/LF
after every word!!! Sometimes between syllables, and sometimes
between letters like the t and he of the word "the". Why do they do
that?

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_...fosamax_pi.pdf

Is there a simpler way to remove them than going word by word?

I have notepad++ for example, and if I turn something on in View, it
gives a reverse image of CR and LF, but I can't manage to copy either
of them to put them in the Find box.

I have editpad lite, but I can't even figure out how to show the CR/LF
(maybe because it's meant for writing code?)

Eudora has Find but not Replace.

FTR, I'm not even planning on republishing a copyrighted file. I just
want to copy 3 paragraphs of it for my own notes, in a text, non-pdf
file.


What is it that you are trying to do?


Get rid of the Carriage Return and Line Feed on each line.

I don't see control characters except at EOL and can easily
copy and paste into notepad, word, etc.


I can copy and paste it too, but it's hard to read! When I try to do
a few paragraphs, it looks like what's below. For you, did it not
look like this:

HIGHLIGHTS OF PRESCR
IBING INFORMA
TION


I use Foxit 2.2.2129. This is what I see and paste:

HIGHLIGHTS OF PRESCRIBING INFORMATION
These highlights do not include all the information needed to use
FOSAMAX safely and effectively. See full prescribing information
for FOSAMAX.
FOSAMAX® (alendronate sodium) tablets, for oral use
FOSAMAX® (alendronate sodium) oral solution
Initial U.S. Approval: 1995
---------------------------RECENT MAJOR CHANGES ---------------------------
Warnings and Precautions (5.4) 2/2015
----------------------------INDICATIONS AND USAGE----------------------------
FOSAMAX is a bisphosphonate indicated for:
ï‚· Treatment and prevention of osteoporosis in postmenopausal
women (1.1, 1.2)
ï‚· Treatment to increase bone mass in men with osteoporosis (1.3)
ï‚· Treatment of glucocorticoid-induced osteoporosis (1.4)
ï‚· Treatment of Paget's disease of bone (1.5)
Etc.
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Old December 4th 15, 09:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Computer Nerd Kev[_2_]
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

Paul wrote:

Now, LibreOffice does stuff like this

(M) print
moveto 7
(y) print
moveto 10
(d) print
moveto 16

and attempts to place each character manually. Which
overrides "fi" ligature or attempts at kerning in the font.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerning

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typographic_ligature

The LibreOffice approach is a disaster, when the details
of the font at the viewing end are slightly different.
Now, suddenly, the spacing looks all wrong, as the
screen view applies its own font spacing to "M" say

"M " what Libreoffice assumes the "air space" looks like
"M " what something on your computer is using

Then when you look at the doc on the screen, it looks
like this. Sometimes the edges of letters even overlap.
Because each is rendered separately, and the printer
font layout rules have been completely overridden.

M yd og h asf l eas


Ahh, so that's what causes that to happen!

Thanks for the info Paul.

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Old December 4th 15, 11:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

In message , Micky
writes:
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I found \n in the search box. That's LF and replacing it with
nothing got rid of it. There is Replace All, which I havent' seen
iirc since SPF. That's very nice.

There is also \r \t \0 \x and maybe more, one of which must mean CR.

[]
Those sound like high-level-language (like C) escape sequences. From
when I was studying such (over 30 years ago!):

\n means newline; how this is actually implemented depends on the system
you're working under - it can be CRLF, LFCR, just LF, just
CR, or possibly even other sequences.

\r (IIRR!) specifically means the CR character - ASCII code 13 decimal
or D hexadecimal (or 15 octal). (IIRR there's an escape sequence for the
other one too: logic would dictate that it's \l, but I can't remember.)

\t means the tab character (ASCII 8).

\0 means the null character (ASCII 0); used in many high-level languages
to mark the end of a character string, so there needs to be a way of
referring to it if you want to.

\\ means the "\" character itself.
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Old December 5th 15, 12:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How to find and delete CR/LF quickly.

[Default] On Fri, 4 Dec 2015 23:10:28 +0000, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote:

In message , Micky
writes:
[]
I found \n in the search box. That's LF and replacing it with
nothing got rid of it. There is Replace All, which I havent' seen
iirc since SPF. That's very nice.

There is also \r \t \0 \x and maybe more, one of which must mean CR.

[]
Those sound like high-level-language (like C) escape sequences. From
when I was studying such (over 30 years ago!):

\n means newline; how this is actually implemented depends on the system
you're working under - it can be CRLF, LFCR, just LF, just
CR, or possibly even other sequences.

\r (IIRR!) specifically means the CR character - ASCII code 13 decimal
or D hexadecimal (or 15 octal). (IIRR there's an escape sequence for the
other one too: logic would dictate that it's \l, but I can't remember.)

\t means the tab character (ASCII 8).

\0 means the null character (ASCII 0); used in many high-level languages
to mark the end of a character string, so there needs to be a way of
referring to it if you want to.

\\ means the "\" character itself.


A post I actually understand the first time I reed it. And which I
should be able to remember. Thanks.

All the more important since the Cheat Sheet omits mention of these
sequences.
 




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