O.T. Dell 8200 cannot power up

I have done some searches of my own on the
titles but couldn't find anything.

The last link seems to describe my problem
best but why on earth would anyone design a
program to introduce corrupted data?

As I recall these DVD's played fine the first
time but now have this problem so my guess
is that they were badly made. The one I couldn't
think of was 'War of the Worlds' (older version)
and it had a spot where it stopped and stuttered
and I contacted the seller and he gave me a
replacement and it had the same spot on it too!


At any rate, I didn't want this to take away from
my computer post but only asked the question in
passing.

Robert

Mark,

why would anyone design a program to introduce
corrupted data?

Because someone payed the programmer money to do so ?


The question you probably wanted to ask is "why would anyone *use* a program
to introduce corrupted data?".

And that one is answered by the line preceeding the link: "a Sony protection
method". Which was most likely introduced with the idea to make a Sony CD
unplayable on CD players that could easily be used to duplicate the
contents. In other words: an anti-piracy measure.

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


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I have done some searches of my own on the
titles but couldn't find anything.

The last link seems to describe my problem
best but why on earth would anyone design a
program to introduce corrupted data?

As I recall these DVD's played fine the first
time but now have this problem so my guess
is that they were badly made. The one I couldn't
think of was 'War of the Worlds' (older version)
and it had a spot where it stopped and stuttered
and I contacted the seller and he gave me a
replacement and it had the same spot on it too!


At any rate, I didn't want this to take away from
my computer post but only asked the question in
passing.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I have done some searches of my own on the
titles but couldn't find anything.

The last link seems to describe my problem
best but why on earth would anyone design a
program to introduce corrupted data?

As I recall these DVD's played fine the first
time but now have this problem so my guess
is that they were badly made. The one I couldn't
think of was 'War of the Worlds' (older version)
and it had a spot where it stopped and stuttered
and I contacted the seller and he gave me a
replacement and it had the same spot on it too!


At any rate, I didn't want this to take away from
my computer post but only asked the question in
passing.

Robert

Here's a thread from ten years ago on WOTW.
You can compare where your bad spot is, to where
some of the people had problems.

http://forums.afterdawn.com/threads/...worlds.402286/

Paul

Very interesting reading,....

Seems like the one guy doesn't have
any problems but I'm just trying
to watch a movie not burn anything.

So I guess it all depends on what does
it and what software they are using
and what kind of disks (cheap or good)

Robert

I forgot to add that while all the holes
are the same on the power supply my top
right hole has what looks like a 'prong'
from the computer back panel going into
the screw hole.

It has an open square with the prong in
the middle whereas all the others have
metal around the screw hole. So it's
obviously designed like that.


Robert

Power supply has been ordered.

Robert

Today while online I lost my Internet
connection. After several tries at
rebooting and powering off/on I called
Verizon to see if they were up to anything
and turns out my modem is acting up and
I need a new one.

So now I'm waiting for the power supply
for the 8200 and a new modem for the 8500
and have no idea when I will loose connection
again or if I can get back online.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
Today while online I lost my Internet
connection. After several tries at
rebooting and powering off/on I called
Verizon to see if they were up to anything
and turns out my modem is acting up and
I need a new one.

So now I'm waiting for the power supply
for the 8200 and a new modem for the 8500
and have no idea when I will loose connection
again or if I can get back online.

Robert

Sometimes when your networking equipment acts up,
it's actually a power problem.

My ADSL modem started dropping sync, and it would
do it around 9PM at night. It turned out, the ATX
supply in my PC was feeding electrical noise into
the same power strip as the ADSL modem was plugged into.
The ADSL modem "floats" electrically, and doesn't
have a defined ground. Replacing the ATX power supply
pf the adjacent PC fixed the problem, without calling
the ISP at all for support. It continues working to
this day.

Not all devices are that sensitive. My old ADSL
modem, was "rock steady". It was made by Alcatel
and never got hot (never overheated), was
easy on the electricity, and I never had a
stitch of trouble with it. The new modem
is noise sensitive, so you dare not make
an (electrical) noise near it, or it could
affect the noise floor.

The difference between the modems, is
the old one only did up to 8Mbit/sec,
while the new one can go all the way
to 24Mbit/sec. But I don't pay for 24Mbit/sec
service, and so the modem really isn't all
that necessary from a speed perspective.
Maybe some day it'll be worth while,
assuming it is still working then.

The old one was a rental, and I was paying $3
a month or so for it. The new one, I own it
outright, so no more rentals. I think it's paid
for itself already (by no longer getting
dinged for the $3 a month).

Paul

I've been able to connect with the
Internet (obviously) but every now
and then I loose the connection and
then I have to reset the modem. Not
as often as I did when this first
occurred though.

I was going to ask the question
that although Verizon is sending
me a new modem (at no charge) if
I'm better off using their modem
or buying a third party modem?

However, after reading your reply
I'm wondering if I would still have
issues? Usually, everything is fine
and I have no problems.

This is my present Ethernet modem:

http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Veri.../dp/B0036VO6NW

I have no idea what unit they will
be sending to replace it or when it
will arrive.


Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
I've been able to connect with the
Internet (obviously) but every now
and then I loose the connection and
then I have to reset the modem. Not
as often as I did when this first
occurred though.

I was going to ask the question
that although Verizon is sending
me a new modem (at no charge) if
I'm better off using their modem
or buying a third party modem?

However, after reading your reply
I'm wondering if I would still have
issues? Usually, everything is fine
and I have no problems.

This is my present Ethernet modem:

http://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Veri.../dp/B0036VO6NW

I have no idea what unit they will
be sending to replace it or when it
will arrive.


Robert

Did you notice the first customer review for it ?

"This one needs to be reset at
least once a day if not more often."

I used to have a piece of networking equipment
like that once. My Linksys BEFSR41 would require
a couple resets per day (evenings). Its replacement
has never had a problem like that, never needs
to be reset.

An ADSL modem can drop sync, and the status LEDS
should indicate that from the outside. But if
the function of the thing stops, that is either
a bug in the firmware, or the SOC (system on a chip)
in there is defective, or the internal power is acting
up. Mine uses a wall adapter (so the voltage
is already regulated), but also has a switching
converter inside the modem.

Paul

No, I actually didn't read any of the
reviews. This is the modem they gave
me the last time I had connect issues
and they had to replace the outside
terminal box as well.

You know what though, I think I was
right from the beginning that Verizon
was doing something on their end because
ever since I haven't had a connection
problem and I haven't had to reset it.

I also remember that when I was having
problems on the Verizon IP Address page
it showed under the Broadband connection
that the DSL was connected but the IP Status
had 3 red PPP's.

This was the first time I've had to reset
the modem and I've had it maybe
5 years.

Robert

It's been a month of Sundays,....
today after I returned from the
store all the power was out and
wasn't restored until 6 hours later
and I had the computer on at the
time.

Luckily, all seems fine but I wish
I'd get a break.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
It's been a month of Sundays,....
today after I returned from the
store all the power was out and
wasn't restored until 6 hours later
and I had the computer on at the
time.

Luckily, all seems fine but I wish
I'd get a break.

Robert

We lost power a couple times here.
(Fairly strong wind storm.)
But being in the city it was
restored reasonably quickly.
My UPS wouldn't have lasted through
the whole thing, so I shut down
and turned the UPS off.

Paul

Still waiting on the power supply
so out of curiosity (no I didn't
download it)I started looking at
reviews for Windows 10:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/300...windows-7.html

What do you think?

They don't mention how long they will
continue to support XP or Win 7 and it's
still pretty new to jump onto that kind
of OS. I wish they would stay with what
works.

I don't know much about Apple/Mac's except
they cost twice as much and are made
differently and have a different O/S.

Robert

Mark Twain wrote:
Still waiting on the power supply
so out of curiosity (no I didn't
download it)I started looking at
reviews for Windows 10:

http://www.infoworld.com/article/300...windows-7.html

What do you think?

They don't mention how long they will
continue to support XP or Win 7 and it's
still pretty new to jump onto that kind
of OS. I wish they would stay with what
works.

I don't know much about Apple/Mac's except
they cost twice as much and are made
differently and have a different O/S.

Robert

For a Macintosh, try pricing them carefully.
Match the hardware features of the Macintosh
you are interested in, with a PC which matches
the features exactly. The additional price
should not be a factor of two.

*******

You would have to be nuts to voluntarily
put Win10 on a perfectly good Win7 machine :-)
(Sorry, Win10 people...)

Windows 7 extended support ends some time in
the year 2020. I have a newly purchased copy
of Windows 7, bought around July/August of
this year, which will be riding the support
wave until the year 2020.

I run the Windows 10 Insider edition, for tracking
issues. The software works, but you never feel
in control of the machine. And if you have demanding
work to do (a program that needs to run for a week
uninterrupted, like Microsoft ICE or a video render),
your best advice is to disconnect the network
cable from the Windows 10 machine. That's how
I make the machine "trustworthy". First, you
make sure the machine is updated, do a reboot,
unplug the LAN cable, set up your long running
program. One poster recommends changing the
gateway address in the networking stack, to
stop WAN traffic yet keep LAN functionality,
as an alternative solution.

I was doing a long-running program (would take
days), and suddenly the "reboot" prompt came up,
saying "I need to reboot within the next 24 hours,
would 3:30AM be convenient?". Of course rebooting
in the next 24 hours would be extremely inconvenient.
But at the time, I had no way to stop it, so I
had to shut down what I was doing, and
"deal with the issue". Once the reboot for
some silly update was completed, I unplugged
the network cable, and set up my long
running job again.

If you like being treated to that sort of
behavior, go right ahead and install Windows 10 :-)

And if some kook management type at Microsoft
tells me "he is performing a service for me",
well "**** right off" is my reply. This is my
computer, and I decide when it reboots - always.
And if that means no Windows 10, then so be it...

Paul