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Old January 21st 16, 07:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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I use Macrium Reflect to make disk images.

I have 3 partitions, but only use one regularly.

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that when I restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?

I see no point doing disk images for all 3 partitions when only one has been used.

Thanks,
Andy
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Old January 21st 16, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Disk imaging

Andy,

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that
when I restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?


Yes, thats exactly what partition backups (as opposed to disk backups) are
for.

By the way: when you backup a data partition you could consider backupping
just the files (a proces ofter referred to as "syncing" with the backup
drive/nas/server). There are several up-sides to this method:

#1: after the first full backup you only need to sync (copy to the backup
drive/nas/server) the files which have actually changed (which might be a
lot quicker than doing a full backup).

#2: you can restore a single file from the backup drive/nas (handy for those
"oups, I should not have deleted that file/folder").

#3: there are backup programs which will allow you to remember more than one
version of a changed file, making it possible to restore to a point further
back than the last backup-sync (also known under the name "version
control").

Hope that helps,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
Andy schreef in berichtnieuws
...
I use Macrium Reflect to make disk images.

I have 3 partitions, but only use one regularly.

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that when I

restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?

I see no point doing disk images for all 3 partitions when only one has

been used.

Thanks,
Andy



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Old January 21st 16, 08:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
David H. Lipman
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Default Disk imaging

From: "Andy"

I use Macrium Reflect to make disk images.

I have 3 partitions, but only use one regularly.

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that when I
restore an image,
only the one partition will be replaced ?

I see no point doing disk images for all 3 partitions when only one has
been used.

Thanks,
Andy



Image the entire disk as-is.

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  #4  
Old January 22nd 16, 02:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default Disk imaging

Andy wrote:
I use Macrium Reflect to make disk images.

I have 3 partitions, but only use one regularly.

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that when I restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?

I see no point doing disk images for all 3 partitions when only one has been used.

Thanks,
Andy


You could do:

1) A three-partition image, for protection against hard drive failure.

2) Future backups of the active ( C: ) partition could be
done for just that partition itself. When you restore,
it will restore that partition for you.

During the restoration process, from your (1) backup,
you can select 1, 2, or all 3 partitions for restoration.
You could restore two partitions from (1), and restore
the latest (2) backup to bring the active partition
up to date.

The restoration process supports drag and drop, so you
can tell it which partition to copy over.

In addition, when you restore, if you plan your restoration,
then hit the "back" button, you will see a view of what
the restored disk will look like. You can click a partition
icon there, and resize the partition, or request CHS or 1MB
alignment.

So you really have a lot of options. And all the
options are available from the emergency boot CD.
So you don't even have to worry about "how do I change
my active OS". If you burn the emergency boot CD today,
you'll be ready for just about any recovery scenario
you can dream up.

If you have a couple spare disks around, you can play
with it, and learn how to use it.

You can even make goofy "film strips" for others to enjoy.
When the image appears, click to magnify.

http://s9.postimg.org/gwn36sxhr/Macrium_Restore_CD.gif

Naturally, if you expect to fit a "square peg into a round
hole", that won't work. If you're restoring a single partition,
it should be the same size as the hole you're fitting it into.
I do not recommend frequent partition size changes, once you
start a backup series. That's to prevent "discomfort" later.
If you have enough spare disks though, you can get yourself
out of just about any mess you can manage to dream up.
(I.e. Restore a partition, resize it, restore another
partition, resize that one, and so on, until you
build up the exact disk image you'd like to see.)

Paul
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Old January 22nd 16, 01:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
(PeteCresswell)
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Default Disk imaging

One thing to consider is differentiating between System and Data when
backing up.

What you do *NOT* want are indiscriminate System images. Instead, you
want that I call "The latest known-to-be-good System image"..... i.e. if
you acquire some really heinous malware that requires a re-image, you
want to know that your backup images do not contain it.

With Macrium, if you do not want to embrace separate drives for Data and
System, maybe a series of separate "Good" system images and then daily
incremental "Data" images.
--
Pete Cresswell
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Old January 22nd 16, 08:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default Disk imaging

In message ,
"(PeteCresswell)" writes:
One thing to consider is differentiating between System and Data when
backing up.

What you do *NOT* want are indiscriminate System images. Instead, you
want that I call "The latest known-to-be-good System image"..... i.e. if
you acquire some really heinous malware that requires a re-image, you
want to know that your backup images do not contain it.


Agreed.

With Macrium, if you do not want to embrace separate drives for Data and
System, maybe a series of separate "Good" system images and then daily
incremental "Data" images.


I image my system - the hidden partition and C:; however, for my data
partition, I've never seen the advantage in imaging it, so I don't: I
just copy it. (I originally just copied all of it; I now use SyncToy to
speed the process.) But each to his own; I certainly am not saying don't
image your data partition/drive, if you wish to.

(Well, I suppose I think I can access my data copy without having to use
the software [Macrium in my case too] that understands the image files.
But I've never actually had to so far, so it's fairly academic. And I
suppose imaging could also involve some compression, if you're short of
backup space; my backup drive is a lot bigger than my main one so I'm
not worried about that.)
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it a chair!" "Why not call it a rock?" (First series, fit the sixth.)
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Old January 23rd 16, 12:51 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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Default Disk imaging

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:51:08 PM UTC-6, R.Wieser wrote:
Andy,

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that
when I restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?


Yes, thats exactly what partition backups (as opposed to disk backups) are
for.

By the way: when you backup a data partition you could consider backupping
just the files (a proces ofter referred to as "syncing" with the backup
drive/nas/server). There are several up-sides to this method:

#1: after the first full backup you only need to sync (copy to the backup
drive/nas/server) the files which have actually changed (which might be a
lot quicker than doing a full backup).

#2: you can restore a single file from the backup drive/nas (handy for those
"oups, I should not have deleted that file/folder").

#3: there are backup programs which will allow you to remember more than one
version of a changed file, making it possible to restore to a point further
back than the last backup-sync (also known under the name "version
control").

Hope that helps,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
Andy schreef in berichtnieuws
...
I use Macrium Reflect to make disk images.

I have 3 partitions, but only use one regularly.

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that when I

restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?

I see no point doing disk images for all 3 partitions when only one has

been used.

Thanks,
Andy


Thanks Rudy.

Andy
  #8  
Old January 23rd 16, 12:55 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Andy[_17_]
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Default Disk imaging

On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 8:56:30 PM UTC-6, Paul wrote:
Andy wrote:
I use Macrium Reflect to make disk images.

I have 3 partitions, but only use one regularly.

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that when I restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?

I see no point doing disk images for all 3 partitions when only one has been used.

Thanks,
Andy


You could do:

1) A three-partition image, for protection against hard drive failure.

2) Future backups of the active ( C: ) partition could be
done for just that partition itself. When you restore,
it will restore that partition for you.

During the restoration process, from your (1) backup,
you can select 1, 2, or all 3 partitions for restoration.
You could restore two partitions from (1), and restore
the latest (2) backup to bring the active partition
up to date.

The restoration process supports drag and drop, so you
can tell it which partition to copy over.

In addition, when you restore, if you plan your restoration,
then hit the "back" button, you will see a view of what
the restored disk will look like. You can click a partition
icon there, and resize the partition, or request CHS or 1MB
alignment.

So you really have a lot of options. And all the
options are available from the emergency boot CD.
So you don't even have to worry about "how do I change
my active OS". If you burn the emergency boot CD today,
you'll be ready for just about any recovery scenario
you can dream up.

If you have a couple spare disks around, you can play
with it, and learn how to use it.

You can even make goofy "film strips" for others to enjoy.
When the image appears, click to magnify.

http://s9.postimg.org/gwn36sxhr/Macrium_Restore_CD.gif

Naturally, if you expect to fit a "square peg into a round
hole", that won't work. If you're restoring a single partition,
it should be the same size as the hole you're fitting it into.
I do not recommend frequent partition size changes, once you
start a backup series. That's to prevent "discomfort" later.
If you have enough spare disks though, you can get yourself
out of just about any mess you can manage to dream up.
(I.e. Restore a partition, resize it, restore another
partition, resize that one, and so on, until you
build up the exact disk image you'd like to see.)

Paul


Thanks for all the good responses.

Andy
  #9  
Old January 23rd 16, 11:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
R.Wieser
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Default Disk imaging

Andy,

Thanks Rudy.


You're welcome. :-)

Regards,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
Andy schreef in berichtnieuws
...
On Thursday, January 21, 2016 at 1:51:08 PM UTC-6, R.Wieser wrote:
Andy,

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that
when I restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?


Yes, thats exactly what partition backups (as opposed to disk backups)

are
for.

By the way: when you backup a data partition you could consider

backupping
just the files (a proces ofter referred to as "syncing" with the backup
drive/nas/server). There are several up-sides to this method:

#1: after the first full backup you only need to sync (copy to the

backup
drive/nas/server) the files which have actually changed (which might be

a
lot quicker than doing a full backup).

#2: you can restore a single file from the backup drive/nas (handy for

those
"oups, I should not have deleted that file/folder").

#3: there are backup programs which will allow you to remember more than

one
version of a changed file, making it possible to restore to a point

further
back than the last backup-sync (also known under the name "version
control").

Hope that helps,
Rudy Wieser


-- Origional message:
Andy schreef in berichtnieuws
...
I use Macrium Reflect to make disk images.

I have 3 partitions, but only use one regularly.

If I just do an image of that one partition, does that mean that when

I
restore an image, only the one partition will be replaced ?

I see no point doing disk images for all 3 partitions when only one

has
been used.

Thanks,
Andy


Thanks Rudy.

Andy



 




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