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Old July 15th 16, 08:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How big is an SD card?

How big can an SDSC card be, and since the old netbook recognizes an
8GB card, beyond the SDSC range, does that mean it can recognize 32GB?
Since the new phone and new camera, I'm in to SD cards, but the Acer
Aspire One D250-0160 is from 2004 and runs XP and I'm not replacing
it, but Ithought I could put an SD card in it, for storage and data
transfer.

The only advantage, I guess, is that it won't stick out and get caught
on the crowd when I'm running through the streets of Vienna at night,
being chased by Harry Lamb. Since I can use flash drives for data
transfer.

But anyone, does anyone remember how big an SD card can be. I put in
an 8GB card and it saw 7.41 of it, but when I put in a 64 GB SDXC
card, it wanted to format it. So the max is somewhere between 8 and
32GB.

Yet the SD association says:
"SD standard - Up to 2GB SD memory card using FAT 12 and 16 file
systems
SDHC standard - over 2GB-32GB SDHC memory card using FAT32 file system
SDXC standard - over 32GB-2TB SDXC memory card using exFAT file
system"

8GB is well over 2GB so it seems like the computer can recognize micro
SDHC cards in an SD adapter. Do you think that means it can recognize
32GB?

Or was the limitation 2GB just because that's as high as FAT16 would
go, and does that mean that since the Acer can read FAT32, that it
will go up to 32G, but it probably can't read exFAT, so no 64Gig for
it?

Does anyone remember? (It won't kill me to buy a 16 and 32G even if
I can't use one or both in the laptop, so don't spend too much time on
this.)

https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/capacity/
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Old July 15th 16, 11:28 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Default How big is an SD card?

Micky wrote:
How big can an SDSC card be, and since the old netbook recognizes an
8GB card, beyond the SDSC range, does that mean it can recognize 32GB?
Since the new phone and new camera, I'm in to SD cards, but the Acer
Aspire One D250-0160 is from 2004 and runs XP and I'm not replacing
it, but Ithought I could put an SD card in it, for storage and data
transfer.

The only advantage, I guess, is that it won't stick out and get caught
on the crowd when I'm running through the streets of Vienna at night,
being chased by Harry Lamb. Since I can use flash drives for data
transfer.

But anyone, does anyone remember how big an SD card can be. I put in
an 8GB card and it saw 7.41 of it, but when I put in a 64 GB SDXC
card, it wanted to format it. So the max is somewhere between 8 and
32GB.

Yet the SD association says:
"SD standard - Up to 2GB SD memory card using FAT 12 and 16 file
systems
SDHC standard - over 2GB-32GB SDHC memory card using FAT32 file system
SDXC standard - over 32GB-2TB SDXC memory card using exFAT file
system"

8GB is well over 2GB so it seems like the computer can recognize micro
SDHC cards in an SD adapter. Do you think that means it can recognize
32GB?

Or was the limitation 2GB just because that's as high as FAT16 would
go, and does that mean that since the Acer can read FAT32, that it
will go up to 32G, but it probably can't read exFAT, so no 64Gig for
it?

Does anyone remember? (It won't kill me to buy a 16 and 32G even if
I can't use one or both in the laptop, so don't spend too much time on
this.)

https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/capacity/


I would think 32GB would be the limit.
So buy a 32GB one for your SDHC netbook.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital

And I don't know if a "request to format" means the
SDXC cannot be read at all. It means the OS couldn't
figure out the file system on it. Now, would that
happen if, simply, no sectors at all could be read ?
Dunno. You would think there would be another code,
if it could not be read at all. If the "end" of the file
system was cut off, maybe that's why it wants you
to format ?

ExFAT is readable from WinXP to Win10.
On WinXP, a separate installable file system software
package is downloaded and installed, to extend the
file system set to FAT, NTFS, ExFAT. AFAIK, Vista or
later should be built in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

You could also consider purchasing an SDXC-capable
card reader, in USB format. If you plug your 64GB card
into this, plug this into the netbook (even though it is
USB3 into a USB2 port), it should present the entire
64GB block device OK. At 30-35MB/sec on the USB2 port, max.
And then it would be up to the OS, as to whether it has
ExFAT or regular file system support. (On WinXP, you'd
install the ExFAT driver package.)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820130014

You can also get a little reader with UHS-I capability.
But UHS-II might be harder to find (second row of pins).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA4P026T2712

Paul
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Old July 15th 16, 06:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How big is an SD card?

[Default] On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 06:28:39 -0400, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Paul wrote:

Micky wrote:
How big can an SDSC card be, and since the old netbook recognizes an
8GB card, beyond the SDSC range, does that mean it can recognize 32GB?
Since the new phone and new camera, I'm in to SD cards, but the Acer
Aspire One D250-0160 is from 2004 and runs XP and I'm not replacing
it, but Ithought I could put an SD card in it, for storage and data
transfer.

The only advantage, I guess, is that it won't stick out and get caught
on the crowd when I'm running through the streets of Vienna at night,
being chased by Harry Lamb. Since I can use flash drives for data
transfer.

But anyone, does anyone remember how big an SD card can be. I put in
an 8GB card and it saw 7.41 of it, but when I put in a 64 GB SDXC
card, it wanted to format it. So the max is somewhere between 8 and
32GB.

Yet the SD association says:
"SD standard - Up to 2GB SD memory card using FAT 12 and 16 file
systems
SDHC standard - over 2GB-32GB SDHC memory card using FAT32 file system
SDXC standard - over 32GB-2TB SDXC memory card using exFAT file
system"

8GB is well over 2GB so it seems like the computer can recognize micro
SDHC cards in an SD adapter. Do you think that means it can recognize
32GB?

Or was the limitation 2GB just because that's as high as FAT16 would
go, and does that mean that since the Acer can read FAT32, that it
will go up to 32G, but it probably can't read exFAT, so no 64Gig for
it?

Does anyone remember? (It won't kill me to buy a 16 and 32G even if
I can't use one or both in the laptop, so don't spend too much time on
this.)

https://www.sdcard.org/developers/overview/capacity/


I would think 32GB would be the limit.
So buy a 32GB one for your SDHC netbook.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital

And I don't know if a "request to format" means the
SDXC cannot be read at all. It means the OS couldn't
figure out the file system on it. Now, would that
happen if, simply, no sectors at all could be read ?
Dunno. You would think there would be another code,
if it could not be read at all. If the "end" of the file
system was cut off, maybe that's why it wants you
to format ?


Good point. Maybe once I format it, it would read 32gigs worth.

But a) my compulsive nature would be unhappy to have a 64g card in
there if only 32g could be used.
b) the 64g I tested with was from the camera, so it's not like
I have an extra one.

So I'll go with what you say and get a 32g.

Now I note that the HDD is 160G and I've only used 60 of them**,
because I only use this netbook/laptop when I trave, and when I travel
I don't spend much time on the computer. Too much other stuff to do,
and I hate the little keyboard. Though this time I will bring a
mouse and may even buy a keyboard.

**So I don't know why I want an SD card but it's mostly because
there's a slot there. Like I say, I'm compulive a little, but only a
little since the slot has been there since I got it. I even tested
the slot a few years ago and it worked.

ExFAT is readable from WinXP to Win10.


OH, so I jumped to the worng conclusion....

On WinXP, a separate installable file system software
package is downloaded and installed, to extend the
file system set to FAT, NTFS, ExFAT.


Almost, since I haven't installled that, but maybe *that's* what I
should do.

AFAIK, Vista or
later should be built in.


I have Vista now but I can't find my SD card reader and all I have is
the slot in the wireless printer, which has never had the 64g in it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ExFAT

You could also consider purchasing an SDXC-capable
card reader, in USB format. If you plug your 64GB card


Good point I hadn't thought of. The cardreader I can't find might not
be SDXC. I am going to buy a new one, with 6 slots even though I
think I will only use 1 or 2 of them.

into this, plug this into the netbook (even though it is
USB3 into a USB2 port), it should present the entire
64GB block device OK. At 30-35MB/sec on the USB2 port, max.
And then it would be up to the OS, as to whether it has
ExFAT or regular file system support. (On WinXP, you'd
install the ExFAT driver package.)


OOPS. Looking for a download package for exFat capability, I found
out about http://support.microsoft.com/kb/955704 and the poster who
asked a question and was told about this in
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...602b0e6?auth=1
said that he can't read the 64G card in his camera, so I can't, and
you didn't say I could, (even though I thought that's what you were
going to say, until I got to the last part in parens) read the camera
without this package.

So it's really a good thing I asked, not so I can put 64 in the
computer slot but so I can upload pictures from the camera every
night. I will connect the camera to the laptop later today, but I'm
pretty sure it won't work until I dl kb955704.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820130014

You can also get a little reader with UHS-I capability.
But UHS-II might be harder to find (second row of pins).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...9SIA4P026T2712

Paul


Thanks
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Old July 15th 16, 06:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Micky
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Default How big is an SD card?

[Default] On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 03:56:34 -0400, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general Micky
wrote:


The only advantage, I guess, is that it won't stick out and get caught
on the crowd when I'm running through the streets of Vienna at night,
being chased by Harry Lamb. Since I can use flash drives for data
transfer.


I meant Harry Lime. I haven't seen him for years and he doesn't use
his last name when he emails.
 




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