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Defrag Bootup Files
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup
such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA |
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On 12/29/2016 01:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA Defraggler will do this. You have to ask it though. It is easy. |
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XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA First, obtain a gross estimate of how fragmented the volume is. If a defragmenter says these volumes are only 2% fragmented, then you should start looking at startup items or things you've added. If a startup goes from 30 seconds to taking 5 minutes, that's not fragmentation. ******* Even Sysinternals Process Monitor can log activity during boot. It's one of the simplest tools I know of. There are other tools for doing the job as well. Example of a pro debugging a slow start. He had a file share that was missing and holding up the boot process. https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/...y-slow-logons/ Paul |
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On 12/29/2016 04:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA I've always used MyDefrag. It's no longer developed but it works great. Moved to an archive site. The developer closed his website. http://web.archive.org/web/201508110...com/index.html It breaks the system into 6 sections and one of them is the boot files. Another is the folder list. |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:47:50 -0500, Paul wrote:
First, obtain a gross estimate of how fragmented the volume is. If a defragmenter says these volumes are only 2% fragmented, then you should start looking at startup items or things you've added. If a startup goes from 30 seconds to taking 5 minutes, that's not fragmentation. ******* Even Sysinternals Process Monitor can log activity during boot. It's one of the simplest tools I know of. There are other tools for doing the job as well. Example of a pro debugging a slow start. He had a file share that was missing and holding up the boot process. I got a used computer on ebay with a FRESH install of XP Pro SP3. The seller also installed on of them free "Office Suites" and a free Anti-Virus program, (I dont recall which one), and Chrome browser. That's all that was on the drive. That thing took literally 4 to 5 minutes to boot. I swear that was the slowest booting computer in history. I know it was not the office suite, or Chrome causing the problem, and neither of them were running upon bootup. I wiped the drive, installed XP Pro Sp3, and that same computer booted in less than one minute. Its obvious the problem was the anti-virus bull****.... |
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On 29 Dec 2016, XPUSER wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general: Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Fragmentation is about the last possible reason your disk is thrashing. You're barking up the wrong tree. Please stop nymshifting. |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:24:17 -0500, Big Al wrote:
On 12/29/2016 04:09 PM, XPUSER wrote: Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA I've always used MyDefrag. It's no longer developed but it works great. Moved to an archive site. The developer closed his website. http://web.archive.org/web/201508110...com/index.html It breaks the system into 6 sections and one of them is the boot files. Another is the folder list. +1 And it leaves a gap between the sections so they can be used by temporary files. Note you have to allow "Prefetch" so it can decide what you use most, and keep those files at the fastest part of the HD. If you don't know if you have Prefetch, type "prefetch" in the "run" command box. It should give you a list of the most recently used executables. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that? |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:10:42 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote: On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote: Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that? The Defrag in Win98 was a lot better.... I liked to watch it too. The one in XP is boring.... And it always leaves gaps. I dont want gaps.... |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 13:09:12 -0800, XPUSER wrote:
Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA Replying to the XP side of the discussion. And old IDE HD can indeed cause a slow startup (Mydefrag - run the "System Disk Weekly" script), but it's a good idea to look at what services and startups you are running. CodeStuff Starter is a great program for examining them. Have a look at Black Viper's web site about what services are safe to disable. Do you really want Google, Adobe, Microsoft, Oracle and others sending your data at startup to "check if there is an appropriate update" ? Probably not. Do you want to pre-load your Office Software "so it's faster when you eventually use it" ? No .... Do you really want Remote Desktop activated, do you use Scheduler, do you want M$ checking if all your private videos are DRM compatible ? Disable the non-essential. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mydefrag http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/S.../Starter.shtml Black Viper is down, ATM, but there is a table he http://www.majorgeeks.com/content/pa...iguration.html Which might help. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:10:42 -0500, Yousuf Khan
wrote: On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote: Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that? It defrags, but does not optimize, which is why there are so many third party defraggers out there. http://web.archive.org/web/201406291...fragger .html []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 19:23:05 -0600, wrote:
On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 20:10:42 -0500, Yousuf Khan wrote: On 12/29/2016 4:09 PM, XPUSER wrote: Is there a free defragger that will defrag the files used during bootup such that during bootup I will not hear the drive being beaten to death. It seems to take forever to boot up and is probably because windows is hunting for all the pieces it needs to get to the desktop. If defragged properly it should be less violent booting up. Applies to my dual boot Win 7 Pro and Win XP Pro desktop PC. TIA Windows comes with its own defragger, ever since XP, why not use that? The Defrag in Win98 was a lot better.... I liked to watch it too. The one in XP is boring.... And it always leaves gaps. I dont want gaps.... Yes, you do. Otherwise the apps have to write their temp files to the slower parts of the HD. Which slows things down. Having gaps in the faster regions speeds them up. But if you actually like watching a defrag, get Ultra Defrag. http://ultradefrag.sourceforge.net/e....html?download You can configure it to leave no gaps. Whatever floats your boat. []'s -- Don't be evil - Google 2004 We have a new policy - Google 2012 |
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