Upgrade or fresh install?

Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64 instead
of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I know
a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job installing all
applications again, and create all settings like they are now. What's
the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64 instead
of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I know
a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job installing all
applications again, and create all settings like they are now. What's
the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

I've done it on two computers and it was fast, easy and no problems
except Windows 10 nuked one program I never use, an Intel monitoring
program.

Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64 instead
of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I know
a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job installing all
applications again, and create all settings like they are now. What's
the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

In what way is a fresh install better ?

The Upgrade install process creates Windows.old and puts your
Windows 7 in there, plus any Program Files things that aren't
compatible.

It "migrates" things from the old install to the new. It
will be reusing some parts of the old registry, but I don't
know what exactly.

It's not like you keep all the files, and it's a giant mixup.
There is a process involved with it.

If a program is known to not be compatible, it will be removed.
Some items can be damaged a bit (my DataRAM RAMDisk needs a Repair
in Programs and Features which only takes five seconds to do).

If your Windows 7 was "malware-infested", by all means, nuke
and pave. If the OS is in decent shape, Upgrade Install and
let the owner test it out. If it stutters and halts and
mis-behaves, *then* nuke and pave. Give it a chance.

Since an Upgrade Install is little work, it's worth a test first.

1) Backup the drive first. Safety first!

Installations can back out on failure. In one case, this threatened
to take 1.5 hours, to restore Windows.old to Windows, so I just
reset the machine and restored from backup, which took around
10 minutes.

Backups can be worth it, even with all the automation.

Microsoft has even managed to figure out how to recover a
botched install which is failing on the first reboot after
the install steps are done. At one time, it could die right there.

Having a backup means you don't need to know this.

2) Make a note of what programs are installed, in case
later you notice something is missing. A bare minimum is
to take a snippingtool picture of the desktop icons, as it's
annoying to notice an icon is gone, and not know which one.

The installer should warn about what it is about to do, but
with a bit of preparation, you can figure out what it deleted
anyway.

Doing a Clean Install is a lot of work. It can be worth it.
But not if an Upgrade works out for you instead. On a Clean
Install, you'll be sitting there trying to figure out where
the old Email Database should go and so on. And wondering
what you did with the Bookmarks file you were supposed to
export before you started.

Paul

On 02/01/2019 17:22, The Man in the High Castle wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64
instead of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I
know a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job
installing all applications again, and create all settings like they
are now. What's the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have
disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

I've done it on two computers and it was fast, easy and no problems
except Windows 10 nuked one program I never use, an Intel monitoring
program.

Thanks. This looks good. I guess will go this way.

Fokke

On 1/2/2019 12:50 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 02/01/2019 17:22, The Man in the High Castle wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64
instead of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I
know a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job
installing all applications again, and create all settings like they
are now. What's the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have
disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

I've done it on two computers and it was fast, easy and no problems
except Windows 10 nuked one program I never use, an Intel monitoring
program.

Thanks. This looks good. I guess will go this way.

Fokke
If this PC has never been upgraded to W10 in the past you might want to
try entering in her W7 Pro license in when the upgrade/install asks for
the W10 activation code. Many people have been able to still get a free
upgrade to W10 using the older codes. If all else fails you can then
purchase a new W10 license and activate it with that.

If it had already been upgraded to W10 and then downgraded to W7 just
tell the software you don't have a W10 code to give it. It should then
call into Microsoft's servers and re-license the W10 that had been
activated in the past.

On 02/01/2019 17:24, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64
instead of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I
know a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job
installing all applications again, and create all settings like they
are now. What's the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have
disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

In what way is a fresh install better ?

I allways thought a fresh install is better than an upgrade.

The Upgrade install process creates Windows.old and puts your
Windows 7 in there, plus any Program Files things that aren't
compatible.

OK

It "migrates" things from the old install to the new. It
will be reusing some parts of the old registry, but I don't
know what exactly.

It's not like you keep all the files, and it's a giant mixup.
There is a process involved with it.

If a program is known to not be compatible, it will be removed.
Some items can be damaged a bit (my DataRAM RAMDisk needs a Repair
in Programs and Features which only takes five seconds to do).

Well, I can figure that out. No problem.

If your Windows 7 was "malware-infested", by all means, nuke
and pave. If the OS is in decent shape, Upgrade Install and
let the owner test it out.

It was working OK without any problems or infections.

If it stutters and halts and
mis-behaves, *then* nuke and pave. Give it a chance.

OK, but what is "nuke and pave"?
I don't know that expression, but I have a faint idea it means "tuning
it a bit". Correct?

Since an Upgrade Install is little work, it's worth a test first.

1) Backup the drive first. Safety first!

I allways make images of the C: drive.In case something goes wrong, one
can allways place an image back.

Â*Â* Installations can back out on failure. In one case, this threatened
Â*Â* to take 1.5 hours, to restore Windows.old to Windows, so I just
Â*Â* reset the machine and restored from backup, which took around
Â*Â* 10 minutes.

Â*Â* Backups can be worth it, even with all the automation.

Â*Â* Microsoft has even managed to figure out how to recover a
Â*Â* botched install which is failing on the first reboot after
Â*Â* the install steps are done. At one time, it could die right there.

Â*Â* Having a backup means you don't need to know this.

2) Make a note of what programs are installed, in case
Â*Â* later you notice something is missing. A bare minimum is
Â*Â* to take a snippingtool picture of the desktop icons, as it's
Â*Â* annoying to notice an icon is gone, and not know which one.

Yes, familiar with that. List of applications and a screenshot.

The installer should warn about what it is about to do, but
with a bit of preparation, you can figure out what it deleted
anyway.

Doing a Clean Install is a lot of work.

Yes, it is. Hence my question.

It can be worth it.
But not if an Upgrade works out for you instead. On a Clean
Install, you'll be sitting there trying to figure out where
the old Email Database should go and so on.

Yes, I know all about it.

And wondering
what you did with the Bookmarks file you were supposed to
export before you started.

For FF there is MozBackup. Used it many times.

You know, I'll give it a try. An upgrade. First time I'll ever do this,
instead of a clean installation.
Thanks.

Fokke

On 02/01/2019 20:03, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 1/2/2019 12:50 PM, Fokke Nauta wrote:
On 02/01/2019 17:22, The Man in the High Castle wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64
instead of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I
know a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job
installing all applications again, and create all settings like they
are now. What's the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have
disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

I've done it on two computers and it was fast, easy and no problems
except Windows 10 nuked one program I never use, an Intel monitoring
program.

Thanks. This looks good. I guess will go this way.

Fokke
If this PC has never been upgraded to W10 in the past you might want to
try entering in her W7 Pro license in when the upgrade/install asks for
the W10 activation code.Â* Many people have been able to still get a free
upgrade to W10 using the older codes.

Thanks. Haven't known this. But already purchased a W10 DVD.

If all else fails you can then
purchase a new W10 license and activate it with that.

If it had already been upgraded to W10 and then downgraded to W7 just
tell the software you don't have a W10 code to give it.Â* It should then
call into Microsoft's servers and re-license the W10 that had been
activated in the past.

Fokke

Fokke Nauta wrote:


You know, I'll give it a try. An upgrade. First time I'll ever do this,
instead of a clean installation.
Thanks.

Fokke

Plug in the Win10 DVD (or mount an ISO if the OS can do that,
I use ISO mounting in Win10 to do Repair installs, to install
Win10 over Win10).

From Explorer, execute Setup.exe on the DVD.

You do the Upgrade install from a running Windows 7 OS,
executing the Setup.exe.

You can test your Windows 7 key first, to see if the
Free Upgrade still works. The Windows 10 license you've got
would come in handy if you're *changing SKUs*.

You can go from Windows 7 Pro or Windows 7 Ultimate to Win10 Pro.

You can go from Windows 7 Home Premium to Win10 Home.

The five SKUs of Windows 7 align via a table of values,
to two SKUs in Windows 10 consumer editions.

If you wanted to go from Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows 10 Pro,
then you'll likely need your Win10 Pro purchased license key.

There's no need to test the Win7 key, if your from-to
combination don't match. But if you're using similar
SKUs for the from and to, then the existing Windows 7
key just might work. You can then save the Win10 key
for some other purpose.

*******

If you want a Clean install, that is done by *booting*
the DVD.

Whereas the Upgrade, you leave the Windows 7 running and
just execute Setup.exe off the DVD.

To take advantage of the Windows 7 SP1 free upgrade though,
you could try the Upgrade Install first. Once the installation
is registered with the Microsoft server, you can do future
Clean Install operations without typing in a key. The OS
communicates the hardware details with the MS server and
it figures out you are already licensed in that case. This
is called a "Digital Entitlement" if you need a term for
Google purposes.

To determine details of your installation after it
finished, you can use

winver # Works even in Windows XP. Not much detail.

slmgr /dlv # Indicates whether activated and
# free upgrade or purchased license
# key actually worked. If it says
# "30 day grace" you are not activated.

*******

Nuke and pave means:

1) Erase the hard drive.
2) Do a Clean install.

There are a variety of ways to do (1). And only
one way to do (2) is via the booted DVD.

USB flash sticks are also all the rage now, and
sometimes the Win10 is on a USB stick and install
goes a little faster.

Because the install.WIM file on the DVD is heavily
compressed, the media issue doesn't hold back the
installation all that much. Some Windows 10 versions
have unpacked the DVD a little faster than others.
Normally, the 6MB/sec read rate of the DVD would
be terrible, but the decompressor doesn't run that
fast. And decompressing is part of the work.

Windows hardly ever agrees to go flat-out when doing
these things, and the decompression task is no different.
I have seen it get close to using 40% of the CPU, but
when you check the Task Manager today, I would expect
to see less than that.

Paul

On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:19:53 +0100, Fokke Nauta
wrote:

On 02/01/2019 17:24, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64
instead of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I
know a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job
installing all applications again, and create all settings like they
are now. What's the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have
disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

In what way is a fresh install better ?

I allways thought a fresh install is better than an upgrade.


I don't agree. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It mostly depends
on how good the existing installation is.

Here's my standard post on the subject:

Although many people will tell you that formatting and installing
cleanly is the best way to go, I disagree. Unlike with previous
versions of Windows, when doing an upgrade was often a mistake, an
upgrade to Windows XP or later replaces almost everything, and usually
works very well.

The only real exception is when you are having problems; in that
situation, an upgrade often worsens problems, rather than solving
them.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.

On 02/01/2019 20:59, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:


You know, I'll give it a try. An upgrade. First time I'll ever do
this, instead of a clean installation.
Thanks.

Fokke

Plug in the Win10 DVD (or mount an ISO if the OS can do that,
I use ISO mounting in Win10 to do Repair installs, to install
Win10 over Win10).

From Explorer, execute Setup.exe on the DVD.

You do the Upgrade install from a running Windows 7 OS,
executing the Setup.exe.

You can test your Windows 7 key first, to see if the
Free Upgrade still works. The Windows 10 license you've got
would come in handy if you're *changing SKUs*.

What's an SKU?

You can go from Windows 7 Pro or Windows 7 Ultimate to Win10 Pro.

Yes, that's what I wanted to do. W7 Pro to W10 Pro.

You can go from Windows 7 Home PremiumÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* to Win10 Home.

The five SKUs of Windows 7 align via a table of values,
to two SKUs in Windows 10 consumer editions.

If you wanted to go from Windows 7 Home Premium to Windows 10 Pro,
then you'll likely need your Win10 Pro purchased license key.

There's no need to test the Win7 key, if your from-to
combination don't match. But if you're using similar
SKUs for the from and to, then the existing Windows 7
key just might work. You can then save the Win10 key
for some other purpose.

*******

If you want a Clean install, that is done by *booting*
the DVD.

Whereas the Upgrade, you leave the Windows 7 running and
just execute Setup.exe off the DVD.

To take advantage of the Windows 7 SP1 free upgrade though,
you could try the Upgrade Install first. Once the installation
is registered with the Microsoft server, you can do future
Clean Install operations without typing in a key. The OS
communicates the hardware details with the MS server and
it figures out you are already licensed in that case. This
is called a "Digital Entitlement" if you need a term for
Google purposes.

Thanks!
I'll give it a try.

To determine details of your installation after it
finished, you can use

Â*Â* winverÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # Works even in Windows XP. Not much
detail.

Â*Â* slmgr /dlvÂ*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # Indicates whether activated and
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # free upgrade or purchased license
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # key actually worked. If it says
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* # "30 day grace" you are not activated.

*******

Nuke and pave means:

1) Erase the hard drive.
2) Do a Clean install.

OK, thanks.
I got it wrong.
But I know how to do this.

There are a variety of ways to do (1). And only
one way to do (2) is via the booted DVD.

USB flash sticks are also all the rage now, and
sometimes the Win10 is on a USB stick and install
goes a little faster.

Because the install.WIM file on the DVD is heavily
compressed, the media issue doesn't hold back the
installation all that much. Some Windows 10 versions
have unpacked the DVD a little faster than others.
Normally, the 6MB/sec read rate of the DVD would
be terrible, but the decompressor doesn't run that
fast. And decompressing is part of the work.

Windows hardly ever agrees to go flat-out when doing
these things, and the decompression task is no different.
I have seen it get close to using 40% of the CPU, but
when you check the Task Manager today, I would expect
to see less than that.

Â*Â* Paul


Fokke

On 02/01/2019 21:00, Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:19:53 +0100, Fokke Nauta
wrote:

On 02/01/2019 17:24, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64
instead of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I
know a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job
installing all applications again, and create all settings like they
are now. What's the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have
disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

In what way is a fresh install better ?

I allways thought a fresh install is better than an upgrade.


I don't agree. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It mostly depends
on how good the existing installation is.

Here's my standard post on the subject:

Although many people will tell you that formatting and installing
cleanly is the best way to go, I disagree. Unlike with previous
versions of Windows, when doing an upgrade was often a mistake, an
upgrade to Windows XP or later replaces almost everything, and usually
works very well.

OK. Allways thought a fresh install was better.

The only real exception is when you are having problems; in that
situation, an upgrade often worsens problems, rather than solving
them.

The system works fine. No problems.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.


Yeah, all data is on other partitions and is backed up. And there is an
image of the system partition, so I can allways go back.

Thanks anyway.

I'll give the update a try!

Fokke

On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:40:44 +0100, Fokke Nauta
wrote:

On 02/01/2019 21:00, Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:19:53 +0100, Fokke Nauta
wrote:

On 02/01/2019 17:24, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64
instead of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I
know a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job
installing all applications again, and create all settings like they
are now. What's the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have
disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

In what way is a fresh install better ?

I allways thought a fresh install is better than an upgrade.


I don't agree. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It mostly depends
on how good the existing installation is.

Here's my standard post on the subject:

Although many people will tell you that formatting and installing
cleanly is the best way to go, I disagree. Unlike with previous
versions of Windows, when doing an upgrade was often a mistake, an
upgrade to Windows XP or later replaces almost everything, and usually
works very well.

OK. Allways thought a fresh install was better.

The only real exception is when you are having problems; in that
situation, an upgrade often worsens problems, rather than solving
them.

The system works fine. No problems.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.


Yeah, all data is on other partitions and is backed up. And there is an
image of the system partition, so I can allways go back.

Thanks anyway.

I'll give the update a try!

Fokke

I thought there was no need for a fresh install
from Windows7 to Windows10, but over time the
computer became slower and odd quirks kept
appearing randomly. I had hundreds of old
programs on Windows7 and was hesitant to do a
fresh install.

However this became the only option after some
serious faults, (including a stopped updating),
and I had to reinstall many old programs.

I was rewarded by a faster system that so far has
worked well.

It's not for nothing Microsoft suggests a "fresh"
"clean" install; they want to get rid of Windows7.

On 02/01/2019 23:34, Peter Jason wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 21:40:44 +0100, Fokke Nauta
wrote:

On 02/01/2019 21:00, Ken Blake wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 20:19:53 +0100, Fokke Nauta
wrote:

On 02/01/2019 17:24, Paul wrote:
Fokke Nauta wrote:
Hi all,

All best wishes to start with.

My wife's pc is running W7 Pro 64. She likes to have W10 Pro 64
instead of W7.
I have seen that I can choose between a fresh installation (after
clearing the C: drive) or perform an upgrade from the current OS. I
know a fresh installation is better, but it's a hell of a job
installing all applications again, and create all settings like they
are now. What's the result of an upgrade from 7 to 10? Does it have
disadvantages?
I'm curious to your opinions.

Rgs,
Fokke Nauta

In what way is a fresh install better ?

I allways thought a fresh install is better than an upgrade.


I don't agree. Sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. It mostly depends
on how good the existing installation is.

Here's my standard post on the subject:

Although many people will tell you that formatting and installing
cleanly is the best way to go, I disagree. Unlike with previous
versions of Windows, when doing an upgrade was often a mistake, an
upgrade to Windows XP or later replaces almost everything, and usually
works very well.

OK. Allways thought a fresh install was better.

The only real exception is when you are having problems; in that
situation, an upgrade often worsens problems, rather than solving
them.

The system works fine. No problems.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.


Yeah, all data is on other partitions and is backed up. And there is an
image of the system partition, so I can allways go back.

Thanks anyway.

I'll give the update a try!

Fokke

I thought there was no need for a fresh install
from Windows7 to Windows10, but over time the
computer became slower and odd quirks kept
appearing randomly. I had hundreds of old
programs on Windows7 and was hesitant to do a
fresh install.

However this became the only option after some
serious faults, (including a stopped updating),
and I had to reinstall many old programs.

I was rewarded by a faster system that so far has
worked well.

It's not for nothing Microsoft suggests a "fresh"
"clean" install; they want to get rid of Windows7.


Well, this is the reasson I thought a fresh install should be better.

Fokke

On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 15:56:29 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2019-01-02 15:36, Fokke Nauta wrote:
[...]

What's an SKU?
[...]

The barcode on the label. It identifies the product.

Stock Keeping Unit. Not a term unique to MSFT.

On 03/01/2019 11:24, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 2 Jan 2019 15:56:29 -0500, Wolf K wrote:

On 2019-01-02 15:36, Fokke Nauta wrote:
[...]

What's an SKU?
[...]

The barcode on the label. It identifies the product.

Stock Keeping Unit. Not a term unique to MSFT.


Thanks.

Fokke