Fresh install (laugh)

Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this?

On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this?

I've been playing with this, Philo

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser

It works well on my iMac and is supposedly good on all platforms.

--
David B.

philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this?

There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support.
Firefox versions after that might need SSE2.

https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set

The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Paul

On 1/21/19 5:48 PM, David B. wrote:
On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this?

I've been playing with this, Philo

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser

It works well on my iMac and is supposedly good on all platforms.



Thank you , will try it

On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this?

There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support.
Firefox versions after that might need SSE2.

https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set


The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

** Paul



Thank you.

Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I
can find a taker.

On 1/21/2019 7:10 PM, philo wrote:
On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like
this?

There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support.
Firefox versions after that might need SSE2.

https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set


The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

*** Paul



Thank you.

Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I
can find a taker.

According to this discussion some version of Opera (between 12.17 and 22
- that isn't clear) should work.

https://forums.opera.com/topic/11022...tion-support/5

On 22/01/2019 03:09, philo wrote:
On 1/21/19 5:48 PM, David B. wrote:
On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like
this?

I've been playing with this, Philo

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser

It works well on my iMac and is supposedly good on all platforms.



Thank you , will try it

Any luck?

--
David B.

Mike S wrote:
On 1/21/2019 7:10 PM, philo wrote:
On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox
or Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like
this?

There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support.
Firefox versions after that might need SSE2.

https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set


The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time
testing.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

Paul



Thank you.

Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if
I can find a taker.

According to this discussion some version of Opera (between 12.17 and 22
- that isn't clear) should work.

https://forums.opera.com/topic/11022...tion-support/5

https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/c...ut-sse2.48002/

"Chromium 35 has stopped supporting non-SSE2 Linux systems..."

https://help.opera.com/en/opera-version-history/

Opera 22
Release date 2014-06-03
Rendering engine Chromium 35

Which means an Opera 21 might work.

And just maybe, Chromium 34 would work. I seem to remember
there was a directory with a ton of builds in it, but no
map as to what was what... At least they made it easy :-/
I mean, this is why we make computers, to make life
this miserable.

https://www.chromium.org/getting-inv...nload-chromium

Paul

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote:

On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

I've been playing with this, Philo

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser


//What are the system requirements to install Brave?
Windows

An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable//

You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ?

Some people never change.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180204...ks-stalker.php
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

On 1/21/19 5:58 PM, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this?
Could you get another machine to download the install and then move it
over? Am I reading you problem right?

On 1/21/19 4:58 PM, philo wrote:

[snip]

Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

I maintain an old Pentiun III (no SSE2) machine for a friend. The latest
Firefox that will work on it is version 48.0.2
(https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/48.0.2/).

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this?

--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Skepticism is the highest duty and blind faith the one unpardonable
sin." -- Thomas Henry Huxley (1825-1895)

On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 21:10:04 -0600, philo wrote:

On 1/21/19 6:28 PM, Paul wrote:
philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

Maybe one of my friends can still use the machine.

Anyone know a decent browser I could put on a low spec machine like this?

There's a reference here to FF49 working without SSE2 support.
Firefox versions after that might need SSE2.

https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.c...nstruction-set


The Firefox releases are available if you want to spend the time testing.

http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/

** Paul



Thank you.

Once I load an alternate browser I'm going to give the machine away if I
can find a taker.

Why not reinstall XP, keep it offline and use it to test
software (a lot of malware can detect a VM) ?
I have a spare just for that.
OR you could boot a Linux-CD firewall on it and keep track of
all your network activity. If it's hacked, just reboot. A
HD/keyboard/screen/graphical card would be un-necessary.Just two
network cards, one of which is probably built into the MB ....
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Big Al wrote:

Could you get another machine to download the install and then move it
over? Am I reading you problem right?

I think what he is doing, is trying to prep an SSE2-free
Athlon era single core 32 bit machine, for donation to
the next visitor. That means installing an OS, then installing
a browser to make it useful, and selecting the browser
before the user discovers the SSE2 exposure :-) Like
perhaps a "browser fleet" of selected toffees, with
their auto-updates disabled.

It's possible Windows 7 "Windows Update" is gating on SSE2
at the moment as well, so this problem is far from solved.
Windows 7 is cheeky enough to check for a Kaby Lake and
reject updating it, so it has plenty of time to be
checking for "no SSE2" while it's at it.

There are two cases to worry about. Software which
actively checks (runs an SSE2 instruction and if
the CPU doesn't have SSE2, a descriptive message
appears warning of the issue). And the second case
is software that "just crashes", as the helpful message :-)

*******

It's too bad there wasn't an "F-line" like emulation
for trapping SSE2 instructions and replacing them
with a subroutine of some sort. Then I see this...

https://reactos.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18071

"This is because SSE & SSE2 instructions don't
all trap properly on all CPUs."

Plus, things like this have an underlying root cause.
It could be the Visual Studio compiler/linker always
use SSE2 now, and that's the root cause of this on
Windows. It's possible the build environment uses
the Visual Studio compiler and linker, without using
the Visual Studio IDE necessarily. They could have used gcc,
but on Windows, the executables end up debugged
with different tools. A gcc compile debugs on gdb.
A Visual Studio compile debugs on windbg. The loading
formats are different somehow. When I write my own
little 60 line programs, those would only debug on gdb
because I'm using MINGW. Otherwise, at runtime, there's
no problem with my little programs running, even on the
Win10 machine.

Paul

On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote:

On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

I've been playing with this, Philo

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser


//What are the system requirements to install Brave?
Windows

An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable//

You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ?

No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer.

Some people never change.
Indeed. I suspect you've been an arsehole for the whole of your
miserable life. You're sad. :-(

--
David B.

On Tue, 22 Jan 2019 17:22:39 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote:

On 22/01/2019 15:32, Shadow wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2019 23:48:16 +0000, "David B." "David
wrote:

On 21/01/2019 22:58, philo wrote:
Because he was a good friend, I took his old XP machine AMD-2800
and gave him a spare Win10 machine.

I decided to format the drive , put in 2 gigs of ram and install Win7


All went well except (as I already knew) it will not update until I
install a newer browser. The funny thing is I could not go to the
Microsoft site to download it with IE8.

I had IE11 on a USB stick but I just thought this funny.


Because the CPU does not have SSE2 I could neither install Firefox or
Chrome.

I've been playing with this, Philo

https://github.com/brave/brave-browser


//What are the system requirements to install Brave?
Windows

An Intel Pentium 4 processor or later that's SSE2 capable//

You didn't even bother to read the specs, did you ?

No. Philo is a big boy now; maybe he'll use it on another computer.

So you didn't even bother to read his post ? He's not
interested in installing it on "another computer".

Some people never change.

How true.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180204...ks-stalker.php
[]'s

--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012