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Google claims 'quantum supremacy' for computer
On Fri, 25 Oct 2019 05:10:02 -0400, Paul
wrote: Martin Edwards wrote: On 10/24/2019 11:35 PM, Peter Jason wrote: On Thu, 24 Oct 2019 08:03:40 +0100, Martin Edwards wrote: On 10/23/2019 9:38 PM, Peter Jason wrote: On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 21:05:37 +0100, ? Good Guy ? wrote: Your encryption is no longer safe with the authorities. Something that took 10,000 years can now be processed in 200 seconds. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50154993 Well, we'll just have to bury our drives in the back yard. As an arts man, I have only the vaguest idea even about quantum physics. Can someone explain this? Some fanciful physics theory about a cat in and out of a box. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat That's one I have never got. For me the cat is in an actual position with or without there being an observer. As for the quantum thing, there is what I think is a pretty good explanation, but I still do not get it. Thanks for the post anyway. Quantum computing is limited to problems which "happen to align with the interpretation that comes out of the hardware". Quantum computing is not an "abacus". You can't do payroll on it. In some ways, it almost resembles an analog computer, in the sense that it has "measurement devices" on the outputs. https://arstechnica.com/science/2019...uting-efforts/ A physicist at Ars, it took him months to think up a "sample problem" to run on a DWave. He chose to model a Bragg diffraction grating, and got an output that kinda looks like what should come out. And he noticed that the state the machine was in, was "similar" to how lighting effects come through the grating. https://arstechnica.com/science/2019...tum-computing/ They have more articles, but I don't expect this will lead to an answer for you any faster. https://arstechnica.com/tag/quantum-computing/ Wikipedia, about all you'll get out of this, is the notion there's more than one kind of quantum hardware, and what they're working on now for a particular type, is "error correction". The machines need to stay coherent long enough to run a problem to completion, or allow the error correction to take place. They're refrigerated, to help stabilize them and encourage coherence. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_computing And this is the topic which is the "threat" to cryptography. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor's_algorithm The best part of the Shor's algorithm article is this dialog box... "This section may be too technical for most readers to understand. Please help improve it to make it understandable to non-experts, without removing the technical details. (February 2014)" The intro section of the article is OK. But once you hit the "Quantum subroutine" figure, where the couplings between Qubits are shown, it rapidly goes downhill from there. From this we learn "writing a program for a quantum computer is a metric bitch" :-) Notice how you need a PhD in math ? Nobody in payroll will ever figure this out. Today. Next week may be different. Indeed, QC-bods are betting their careers and using up their lives in the hope that tomorrow QC will actually be useful for something. The example I often use in situations like this is coherent light beams. Lasers. At first a theoretical notion without much of a practical application, now they are death rays used by advanced, nuclear-powered robotic alien invaders on Mars. QC might never be good for anything human-scale, lots of notions are not but there are precedents for supposing it might be. Maybe. Eventually. And even if not, blue-sky scientific research *ALWAYS* pays off. CERN gave us YouTube. ******* There are other topics in computing, that are out in lala land like this too. This isn't the only thing that's hard to understand. There are *hundreds* of technologies being worked on that are beyond the grasp of the average punter or politician, many of which will vanish without generating a single useful product or service. On the other hand, there is a huge ring in which bitty things chase each other at near light-speed which gave us dancing hamster sites. On the gripping hand, fundamental scientific research *ALWAYS* pays off. And on the imaginary hand, the only way to discover if Mars has ever had any freely running water would be to send up a team of areologists to poke the planet with probes. [Or to send me up with many tools and an Internet connection so the brainy guys could use me as an intelligent finger.] Designing elegant theoretical models is a lovely and human thing but often the best way to do Science is to poke your fingers into the wall-socket or to taste the urine. QC is currently a bloody expensive fad, like VR helmets. Whether it goes the same way is up to the cosmos, corporate sponsors and the guys in the labs. Me, I have my doubts but I've been wrong before. J. Paul |
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