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Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can
I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine? What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more expensive? |
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On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine? Hi Peter, Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and all around for the license number. Get the latest from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain. An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this. You can use either to install on multiple machines, but tell it you do not have a license on the additional machines. The downloaded version will let you choose what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed version will run with several of the feature disabled to encourage you to install a license. But it will run. Don't put the same license on multiple machines. What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more expensive? The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on a single computer The retail version is more expensive because you are paying for a pretty box and the because license is transferable between machines: remove from one and install on another. Don't run on two with the same license. -T |
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On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote:
On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote: Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine? Hi Peter, Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and all around for the license number. Get the latest from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain. An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this. You can use either to install on multiple machines, but tell it you do not have a license on the additional machines. The downloaded version will let you choose what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed version will run with several of the feature disabled to encourage you to install a license. But it will run. Don't put the same license on multiple machines. What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more expensive? The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on a single computer I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that then each computer was locked in to that licence? The retail version is more expensive because you are paying for a pretty box and the because license is transferable between machines: remove from one and install on another. Don't run on two with the same license. -T |
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On Mon, 18 Nov 2019 04:01:30 -0400, pjp
wrote: In article , says... Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine? What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more expensive? Think you'd find no need to purchase assuming pc already is running win7 or 8. Just keep same bit level and it'll likely self validate during install. Get the install using MS's MediaCreation Tool. That's all I've done for couple pcs here now. One where I did change bit level I had to manually enter a Win7 64 key but that's only time. They validated fine and I spent no money doing it. Mind you, if I'd had to it'd have not been done LOL Thanks, I'm just trying to install the same Win10 OEM licence on to a brand new computer, which will be a spare computer in case of some future disaster. |
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On 11/18/19 6:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote: The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on a single computer I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that then each computer was locked in to that licence? One computer, one license. You can reuse the media, not the license. OEM, the licenses stays with the computer, including in the landfill |
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Peter Jason wrote: .... Thanks, I'm just trying to install the same Win10 OEM licence on to a brand new computer, which will be a spare computer in case of some future disaster. Installing Win10 *IS* the disaster. -- Prayer has no place in the public schools, just like facts have no place in organized religion. -- Superintendent Chalmers |
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On 11/18/19 10:49 PM, Kenny McCormack wrote:
In article , Peter Jason wrote: ... Thanks, I'm just trying to install the same Win10 OEM licence on to a brand new computer, which will be a spare computer in case of some future disaster. Installing Win10 *IS* the disaster. But most of the time, due to the lack of common apps for Linux, folks are forced to use Windows. |
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On 11/18/2019 7:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote: On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote: Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine? Hi Peter, Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and all around for the license number. Get the latest from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain. An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this. You can use either to install on multiple machines, but tell it you do not have a license on the additional machines. The downloaded version will let you choose what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed version will run with several of the feature disabled to encourage you to install a license. But it will run. Don't put the same license on multiple machines. What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more expensive? The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on a single computer I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that then each computer was locked in to that licence? No. The OEM version is like the retail version in that regard. What you buy can be installed on only one computer at a time. What's different is that the retail version can be moved to another computer as many times as you want, but the OEM version is permanenyly tied to the first computer it's installed on; it may never be moved to another. -- Ken |
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On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:56:48 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On 11/18/2019 7:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote: On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote: Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine? Hi Peter, Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and all around for the license number. Get the latest from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain. An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this. You can use either to install on multiple machines, but tell it you do not have a license on the additional machines. The downloaded version will let you choose what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed version will run with several of the feature disabled to encourage you to install a license. But it will run. Don't put the same license on multiple machines. What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more expensive? The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on a single computer I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that then each computer was locked in to that licence? No. The OEM version is like the retail version in that regard. What you buy can be installed on only one computer at a time. What's different is that the retail version can be moved to another computer as many times as you want, but the OEM version is permanenyly tied to the first computer it's installed on; it may never be moved to another. In that case can I transfer (move) a retail Windows10 from an old broken computer (via the original DVD) to my new one? |
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Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:56:48 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On 11/18/2019 7:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote: On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote: Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine? Hi Peter, Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and all around for the license number. Get the latest from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain. An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this. You can use either to install on multiple machines, but tell it you do not have a license on the additional machines. The downloaded version will let you choose what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed version will run with several of the feature disabled to encourage you to install a license. But it will run. Don't put the same license on multiple machines. What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more expensive? The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on a single computer I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that then each computer was locked in to that licence? No. The OEM version is like the retail version in that regard. What you buy can be installed on only one computer at a time. What's different is that the retail version can be moved to another computer as many times as you want, but the OEM version is permanenyly tied to the first computer it's installed on; it may never be moved to another. In that case can I transfer (move) a retail Windows10 from an old broken computer (via the original DVD) to my new one? It's increasingly difficult to determine the T & C for what you bought. I can't find a "Full" boxed DVD version of Pro for example, and the version that comes on a USB stick, refuses to use the word "Full", leaving it up in the air as to what it is. And the T & C on the web site, uses essentially the same text for transfer rights on each (OEM versus Full=Retail). There's a reason for that. For the "end-user", OEM software is already on the hard drive when you get it. Dell puts it there. Or the System Builder puts it there. The System Builder is not allowed to install System Builder OEM software on his/her own computer! It can only be placed on a customer computer. And it must be done that way, so the interpretation of these rules will work properly :-) https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Uset...10_English.htm Transfer. a. Software preinstalled on device === what a System Builder puts on your drive for you b. Stand-alone software. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Uset...10_English.htm Transfer. a. Software preinstalled on device. b. Stand-alone software. ============== what you got from the Retail Box So there is the traditional usage rules. You can buy a "download version" of Full Pro as a Full Pro (which cheats you out of receiving the box with the two DVDs in it, one DVD for x32, one DVD for x64). The description for Windows 8 is here, but hasn't been updated for Windows 10. https://www.howtogeek.com/198358/wha...ns-of-windows/ On the Microsoft page, all I can find is a shop page with a woman with big tits and no SKU numbers to be able to trace anything. (Yes, the woman has no SKU number) When I've bought software in the past for Microsoft, I could look at a number like "FQC-xxxxx" and trace it to some terms and conditions, with an evening of work. I don't think I can do that any more. I got a pricelist off the MSFT site, but they use cell phone abbreviations for the text, as if there's some shortage of paper in virtual space or something. These would be examples of Windows 10 with transfer rights. I can't find a retail box with two DVDs in this list. This is purely a guess on my part. I can't be sure about this. HAJ-00056 WIN HOME FPP 10 P2 32-bit/64-bit Eng Intl Taiwan Only USB HAV-00064 Win Pro FPP 10 P2 32-bit/64-bit Eng Intl Taiwan Only USB This doesn't say system builder, and I can't tell what this is. FQC-10083 Win Pro 10 32-bit/64-bit Eng Intl Taiwan Only USB RS === ??? So ah, yes, there are T & C, but it's almost impossible to determine via web info, exactly what you bought and what rules apply. Sweet. "Would it say on my computer screen ?" Nope. And if you shopped electronically, you would be entirely dependent on one line of text on the "receipt page" for the details of what you bought. And you know how that's going to turn out. It'll be like that FQC-10083 entry, ambiguous. The price is partially a hint, except if you bought your product on Ebay. The Full (retail) might be $200, the OEM about $150. In the past, the markup on the Full was even higher (could be twice as much). Paul |
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On 19/11/2019 06:49, Kenny McCormack wrote:
Installing Win10 *IS* the disaster. Can you just **** off if you are not using Windows 10 and you don't have interest in it. Are you suggesting that Linux is so boring that nothing interesting is going on their newsgroups so you are here for entertainment? I'm sorry to say you are in the wrong place and your cock-sucking mum should have taught you better when you were a toddler. -- With over 1,000,000 million devices now running Windows 10, customer satisfaction is higher than any previous version of windows. |
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On 11/19/2019 1:39 PM, Peter Jason wrote:
On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 08:56:48 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: On 11/18/2019 7:57 PM, Peter Jason wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 15:06:50 -0800, T wrote: On 11/17/19 2:26 PM, Peter Jason wrote: Hi, I bought a OEM copy of Windows10 to install on this computer. Can I use this same disk to install Windows10 on another machine? Hi Peter, Don't use the disk that came with it. It is so out-of-date it will drive you I-N-S-A-N-E ! But keep the package and all around for the license number. Get the latest from https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/soft...d/windows10ISO And cut a flash drive, or DVD if you like pain. An 8 GB USB3 flash drive is ideal for this. You can use either to install on multiple machines, but tell it you do not have a license on the additional machines. The downloaded version will let you choose what version you want to install: home, pro, etc. Pick the one you intend to get a license for. The unlicensed version will run with several of the feature disabled to encourage you to install a license. But it will run. Don't put the same license on multiple machines. What's the difference between an OEM Windows10 and a normal retail version? Besides the price. Why is the retail version more expensive? The OEM license is only suppose to be used once on a single computer I thought I could install on as many computers with the OEM but that then each computer was locked in to that licence? No. The OEM version is like the retail version in that regard. What you buy can be installed on only one computer at a time. What's different is that the retail version can be moved to another computer as many times as you want, but the OEM version is permanenyly tied to the first computer it's installed on; it may never be moved to another. In that case can I transfer (move) a retail Windows10 from an old broken computer (via the original DVD) to my new one? If it's retail, yes. No problem. As I said, you can do that whether it's broken or not, and you can do it as many times as you want. -- Ken |
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