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Old November 21st 19, 02:52 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mike Easter
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Default [OT] Strange spamming tactic

Steve wrote:
Recently I started getting spam every day addressed to
with no full stop
(period)


I'm familiar w/ that problem.

I believe that it arises because some real person (possibly w/ the same
name) began exposing that address 'all over the place' or some call it
'free 4 all' which results in the address getting on spam lists.

And, as far as spam goes, it is better to eliminate the concept of 'a
spammer'. There isn't a spammer; there is a 'process' which results in
spam.

Here is another one for you. While gmail 'ignores' the dots, you can
have every letter of your firstlast separated by dots or any other
interval or none and gmail sends all of them to you; while other various
entities which use an email as a method of id, DO respect the dots
wherever they may be.

SOOOO.... some place where your gmail address may be an id for you; some
other person can come along and register at that place without a dot and
be registered 'right along side' of you... that is they can be
registered there without a dot and you can be registered there WITH a
dot and then when that entity tries to send email to that other dot-less
person, you are going to get their mail.

I have seen that *SEVERAL* times. It is a mess.

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Old November 21st 19, 06:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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Default [OT] Strange spamming tactic

On Wed, 20 Nov 2019 17:52:13 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

Steve wrote:
Recently I started getting spam every day addressed to
with no full stop
(period)


I'm familiar w/ that problem.

I believe that it arises because some real person (possibly w/ the same
name) began exposing that address 'all over the place' or some call it
'free 4 all' which results in the address getting on spam lists.

And, as far as spam goes, it is better to eliminate the concept of 'a
spammer'. There isn't a spammer; there is a 'process' which results in
spam.

Here is another one for you. While gmail 'ignores' the dots, you can
have every letter of your firstlast separated by dots or any other
interval or none and gmail sends all of them to you; while other various
entities which use an email as a method of id, DO respect the dots
wherever they may be.

SOOOO.... some place where your gmail address may be an id for you; some
other person can come along and register at that place without a dot and
be registered 'right along side' of you... that is they can be
registered there without a dot and you can be registered there WITH a
dot and then when that entity tries to send email to that other dot-less
person, you are going to get their mail.

I have seen that *SEVERAL* times. It is a mess.


I'm sure I'm missing something. If both of those addresses are gmail
addresses, and since dots don't matter, then how did the second person get
a gmail address? Google should have told the second person that their
requested address isn't available.


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Old November 21st 19, 10:47 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Andy Burns[_6_]
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Default [OT] Strange spamming tactic

Char Jackson wrote:

I'm sure I'm missing something. If both of those addresses are gmail
addresses, and since dots don't matter, then how did the second person get
a gmail address? Google should have told the second person that their
requested address isn't available.


That's exactly what google does, and I tend to believe they'll have
always done it that way.

victims who receive email at variations of their gmail address are
getting it because they have a similar name to an idiot, and the idiot
gives out the victim's address (with or without extra dots) without
realising.
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Old November 21st 19, 11:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mike Easter
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Default [OT] Strange spamming tactic

Char Jackson wrote:
I'm sure I'm missing something. If both of those addresses are gmail
addresses, and since dots don't matter, then how did the second person get
a gmail address? Google should have told the second person that their
requested address isn't available.


They /didn't/ get a firstlast gmail address like the OP. They got
'confused' (mixed up, mistaken) when they registered their account at
the entity which respects dots in the email. Perhaps they have some
OTHER gmail address (not firstlast) and/or perhaps they have some
non-gmail address which IS firstlast.

In my theory.

I've seen 'too many' instances which are clearly legitimate emails to
the wrong address, and have telephone corresponded with a couple.
Naturally they don't want to tell me very much about an account which is
not mine, except that there is one.

The best strategy I have been able to use to get such an entity to /do
something/ about the 'bad' account info is to treat it as if their email
bounced; that they have bad contact info for the account.

My gripe is that it is a security issue; like having a wrong contact
cellphone number. The problem NEEDS to be fixed, but that *I* can't fix
a problem w/ someone else's account.


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Old November 21st 19, 07:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Char Jackson
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Default [OT] Strange spamming tactic

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019 09:47:41 +0000, Andy Burns wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

I'm sure I'm missing something. If both of those addresses are gmail
addresses, and since dots don't matter, then how did the second person get
a gmail address? Google should have told the second person that their
requested address isn't available.


That's exactly what google does, and I tend to believe they'll have
always done it that way.

victims who receive email at variations of their gmail address are
getting it because they have a similar name to an idiot, and the idiot
gives out the victim's address (with or without extra dots) without
realising.


OK, got it, thanks. That makes more sense.

 




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