Backup failed

I have little faith in XP when using DVD's based on my experience but need a
backup program like ghost 9. Unfortunately I have not been able to find a
trial copy and refuse to pay $70 for something that may not work for me. Any
idea where to get a demo copy? None at Symantec site that I can find. I am
currently testing NTI BACKUP and it looks OK but no drive image, just files.
SG

"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
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Sounds like you have XP Home version. The NTBackup program that ships with
the Home version of XP has less than minimal value which is likely the
reason why it is not installed by default. The version that ships with XP
Pro is only slightly better but not by much. Try Acronis TrueImage or
Symantec Ghost.

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Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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| How the f*** do I make a FULL backup of everything on the master
| hard disk?
|
| The programme misleads you to thinking that this can be done, but
| when you try it. it comes back with a message telling you that
| 'The files for the recovery diskette could not be created',
| what the hell does that mean?
|
| I'm trying to make the backup to the 'D' drive, which has more
| than adequate space on it.
|
| I did try to do it to a CD but it would not allow me to chose the
| CD drive.
|
| --
| alan
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| reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net
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Yes, but theHarry made slight point in the difference between Home and =
Pro versions.

Even if he installs the Home program, it won't do what he wants, which a =
is a full system backup, since Home will only back up data and settings. =
Pro will do a full system backup as well (called Automated System =
Recovery Wizard).

"Not Me" wrote in message =
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Harry Ohrn is telling you that that the XP backup program is a. Not=20
installed [default] on the Home version. b. In his opinion, the XP=20
NTBackup program is not the best available. Better are Norton's Ghost =
9=20
and Acronis TrueImage; however, they both are not free.
You can pull NTBackup off your XP CD and install it or download it =
from=20
:http://www.onecomputerguy.com/windowsxp_tips.htm . Scroll down to=20
"Installing the Backup Program on the Home Version" and click the=20
highlighted words to download.
Gene K
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Alan Holmes wrote:
"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message=20
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Sounds like you have XP Home version. The NTBackup program that ships =
with
the Home version of XP has less than minimal value which is likely =
the
reason why it is not installed by default. The version that ships =
with XP
Pro is only slightly better but not by much. Try Acronis TrueImage or
Symantec Ghost.
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When is someone going to tell me how to get at these programmes?

BootIt NG makes a nice imaging program, as well as having a great =
partition manager, and much more. It comes iwth a 30 day full functional =
trial, $35 to pruchase.
http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootitng.html

"shakey" wrote in message =
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I have little faith in XP when using DVD's based on my experience but =
need a=20
backup program like ghost 9. Unfortunately I have not been able to =
find a=20
trial copy and refuse to pay $70 for something that may not work for =
me. Any=20
idea where to get a demo copy? None at Symantec site that I can find. =
I am=20
currently testing NTI BACKUP and it looks OK but no drive image, just =
files.
SG
=20
"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message=20
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Sounds like you have XP Home version. The NTBackup program that ships =
with
the Home version of XP has less than minimal value which is likely =
the
reason why it is not installed by default. The version that ships =
with XP
Pro is only slightly better but not by much. Try Acronis TrueImage or
Symantec Ghost.

--=20

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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|
| How the f*** do I make a FULL backup of everything on the master
| hard disk?
|
| The programme misleads you to thinking that this can be done, but
| when you try it. it comes back with a message telling you that
| 'The files for the recovery diskette could not be created',
| what the hell does that mean?
|
| I'm trying to make the backup to the 'D' drive, which has more
| than adequate space on it.
|
| I did try to do it to a CD but it would not allow me to chose the
| CD drive.
|
| --=20
| alan
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| reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net
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I found Acronis TrueImage trial here (15 days, no restore):
http://www.acronis.com/homecomputing/

But there is no trial package at Symantec
"norton ghost 9" trial download
gave a lot of links at google though, but they aren't on Symantec's
homepage, so...



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"shakey" kirjoitti viestissä
...
I have little faith in XP when using DVD's based on my experience but need
a
backup program like ghost 9. Unfortunately I have not been able to find a
trial copy and refuse to pay $70 for something that may not work for me.
Any
idea where to get a demo copy? None at Symantec site that I can find. I am
currently testing NTI BACKUP and it looks OK but no drive image, just
files.
SG

"Harry Ohrn" wrote in message
...
Sounds like you have XP Home version. The NTBackup program that ships
with
the Home version of XP has less than minimal value which is likely the
reason why it is not installed by default. The version that ships with
XP
Pro is only slightly better but not by much. Try Acronis TrueImage or
Symantec Ghost.

--

Harry Ohrn MS-MVP [Shell/User]
www.webtree.ca/windowsxp


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
...
|
| How the f*** do I make a FULL backup of everything on the master
| hard disk?
|
| The programme misleads you to thinking that this can be done, but
| when you try it. it comes back with a message telling you that
| 'The files for the recovery diskette could not be created',
| what the hell does that mean?
|
| I'm trying to make the backup to the 'D' drive, which has more
| than adequate space on it.
|
| I did try to do it to a CD but it would not allow me to chose the
| CD drive.
|
| --
| alan
|
| reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net
|
|
|
|
|

"shakey" wrote in message
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I have little faith in XP when using DVD's based on my experience but need
a backup program like ghost 9. Unfortunately I have not been able to find a
trial copy and refuse to pay $70 for something that may not work for me.
Any idea where to get a demo copy? None at Symantec site that I can find. I
am currently testing NTI BACKUP and it looks OK but no drive image, just
files.
SG
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Loads of freebies here. Or ask in the alt.comp.freeware NG. I got most of
my software for free with their help, including one of the best burning
programs I've yet to find.

FS~
Pricelesswa FREE
http://www.pricelessware.org
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks for these ref's.
"~ FreeSpirit ~" wrote
Loads of freebies here. Or ask in the alt.comp.freeware NG. I got most of
my software for free with their help, including one of the best burning
programs I've yet to find.

FS~
Pricelesswa FREE
http://www.pricelessware.org
http://www.pricelesswarehome.org

In the days of DOS there was a very useful programme called XCOPY,
I know it still exists but has anyone used it recently?


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alan

reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net

On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:17:58 GMT, Alan Holmes wrote:

In the days of DOS there was a very useful programme called XCOPY,
I know it still exists but has anyone used it recently?

XCopy was very nice. Most of the recommendations I see for XP is to use
xxcopy (http://www.xxcopy.com/index.htm). It's good for backup but, from
what I've read, the results do not produce a drive copy that can boot on
its own.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

XCOPY works within a comand prompt under XP, and has essentialy the same
format as it did in DOS.

I just used it earlier today on a PC with XP SP2.


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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In the days of DOS there was a very useful programme called XCOPY,
I know it still exists but has anyone used it recently?


--
alan

reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net

Dragging and dropping does it all for me.
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Ted Zieglar


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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In the days of DOS there was a very useful programme called XCOPY,
I know it still exists but has anyone used it recently?


--
alan

reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net

"Ted Zieglar" wrote in message
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Dragging and dropping does it all for me.

I'm trying to copy the entire contents of the C drive as a backup to drive
D.

How would dragging and dropping acheive that?

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alan

reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net


--
Ted Zieglar


"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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In the days of DOS there was a very useful programme called XCOPY,
I know it still exists but has anyone used it recently?


--
alan

reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net

"Sharon F" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:17:58 GMT, Alan Holmes wrote:

In the days of DOS there was a very useful programme called XCOPY,
I know it still exists but has anyone used it recently?

XCopy was very nice. Most of the recommendations I see for XP is to use
xxcopy (http://www.xxcopy.com/index.htm). It's good for backup but, from
what I've read, the results do not produce a drive copy that can boot on
its own.

Thanks, but I wouldn't expect the backup to boot, if there was a problem
I would expect to reload XP, then recover all the files etc. to be able
to restore the whole thing to the level before the last backup.

--
alan

reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net


--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

"David Nimon" wrote in message
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Well, gee, do you think going to Acronis.com or Symantec.com just might be
a start?

I'm not that bright!

I would have expected an expert like you to understand that anyone asking
a question here would not have the expertise that you appear to have.
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alan

reply to alan(dot)holmes27(at)virgin(dot)net


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David Nimon


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"Alan Holmes" wrote in message
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When is someone going to tell me how to get at these programmes?
--
alan

Hi, Sharon.

I like Xcopy and still use it often. I haven't had to backup a full volume
in a few months, but when I do, I use it with these switches:

xcopy d:\ x:\ /c /h /e /r /k

(As always in a "DOS" window, type the command followed by /? to see a
mini-Help file showing all the switches and parameters used with that
command: xcopy /?)

the results do not produce a drive copy that can boot on
its own.

Two reasons for this. First, the boot sector is critical to booting and it
is NOT a file, so no file-handling command can copy it. We have to use
something like the Recovery Console command FixBoot. Second, Xcopy cannot
copy the currently-in-use Registry files. But by booting into a parallel
install, for example, we can Xcopy the entire volume.

Oh. Rereading your post, I see you have TWO X'es in XXcopy. I've never
tried that one. So I don't know if the same two factors apply to that.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP

"Sharon F" wrote in message
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On Tue, 21 Dec 2004 18:17:58 GMT, Alan Holmes wrote:

In the days of DOS there was a very useful programme called XCOPY,
I know it still exists but has anyone used it recently?

XCopy was very nice. Most of the recommendations I see for XP is to use
xxcopy (http://www.xxcopy.com/index.htm). It's good for backup but, from
what I've read, the results do not produce a drive copy that can boot on
its own.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:07:45 -0600, R. C. White wrote:

Oh. Rereading your post, I see you have TWO X'es in XXcopy. I've never
tried that one. So I don't know if the same two factors apply to that.

Hi, RC. Yep, 2 XX's - a similar but different program. Did you reset your
newsreader recently? Just wondering since this is an older thread.

--
Sharon F
MS-MVP ~ Windows Shell/User