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-- In memory of our dear friend, MVP Alex Nichol: http://www.dts-l.org/ All the Best, Kelly (MS-MVP) Troubleshooting Windows XP http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com "Ron J" wrote in message ... "Galen" wrote: In , Peaceworks had this to say: My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: Hey Galen, In short, gotcha, and consider the situation remedied as per your suggestions. Sincere thanks, Terry I really hate to sound like a donkey but I'm pretty anal when it comes to security, security is a process and not an application. I can only hope that every computer user will understand that at some point and I don't mean you specifically. I have real problems with ZoneAlarm and those problems are mine and mine alone. You are free to use ANY software firewall you're willing/able to use but please, for your own sake take the time to insure you've made the settings fit your usage. While ZA may not be specifically any less capable (they just recently started checking components to insure that the running process was indeed the original starting application where you could make any application named a trusted application access the internet before) than the other available options it is indeed easier than most but you seem to be capable. This? This is a compliment. It takes work and dedication to dig out the newsgroups, add them, and opt to use them. You seem interested in security as a process and not just sitting idle and clicking the box when ZA warns you. My problem goes back to a marketing choice with ZA where they completely disabled the ability for free users to turn off automatic updates and then foisted numerous malfunctioning (and not worthy of even beta status never mind release candidate) releases on end-users. I have a number of issues with denial as well but please do read on. As far as I know ZA, as a product, is an acceptable solution though I do not and will never recommend their software until they've made changes in their marketing practices. Again, that is my problem and mine alone. My posts, the initial, secondary, and now tertiary, are meant to help you to secure your computer and to understand the traffic warning that you're seeing. They are not meant to bash a specific product but rather to decypher the problem and give an answer accordingly. If you're even more curious and, for example, you're not even on a LAN/WAN then you could consider checking running processes and services to see what's running. Have you file and print sharing enabled? Do you have a wireless network? Where is this traffic coming from and what is it doing? Are the other PCs set to index networked drives? That sort of thing is where I'd start to debug this issue but in 99.999% of these cases it's legitimate traffic doing what it's supposed to do and being erroniously blocked by the software firewall and YES this even happens with my beloved Outpost until I've debugged it or configured it properly. So, again, the problems with ZA are mine and mine to hold. You can use any application you want provided you use it wisely. Your posts show that you are doing so. My posts are only meant to show you why this is being reported. Enough said? Carry this down to the TCP/IP packet at the lowest level? I'm willing to share AND learn from your experiences. I don't use ZA but I'm almost willing to try it again now that I've heard a number of good things about it's recent changes and functionality. I like easy and simple... ZA provides that for the AVERAGE user but in the process of doing so it tries to show it's working and this scares anyone who is alert to the messages it pops up and doesn't understand the stacks or IP at a level beyond my comprehension. Me? Personally? I know just enough to know I don't know anything Galen -- Signature changed for a moment of silence. Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side. Hello Galen, For what it is worth, I am in total agreement with you on ZA. It used to be a great firewall but after the freedownload become some popular, hackers became better at configureing it than the users. I have spoke with guys from Check Point ( the company that owns ZA) at the RSA Expo . Although Check Point owns it control of it has been given to Brouderbund (excuse my misspelling). The people there are aware of the problem but it has not hurt sells, so don't look for any improvements soon. I hate saying this, I have made friends there, but the truth is the truth. Best of luck to all. ps: welcome back Kelly, the group is not the same without you Ron J |
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Kelly had this to say: My reply is at the bottom of your sent message: Missing, Galen? I don't work this group. ) I downloaded, installed, paid for, and configured ZA Pro because I figured that I'd be better off learning about it. As you'd not been working the group lately (I don't even know WHERE I'd posted that) you surely missed that event. Anyhow, it's now no longer installed but it felt different to be using a product other than Outpost. It was just plain freaky to see an empty (to me) taskbar and have all the silly prompts come up. I set it up as default which I figured most users would do. I let it run that way for a while before I configured it more to my liking. Now it's still installed but disabled and OP is back up and running. I dare say that it was one of the most annoying applications I've ever used. Galen -- Signature changed for a moment of silence. Rest well Alex and we'll see you on the other side. |
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