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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:55:48 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] I've not seen one single answer that explains why it takes time to stop doing something. s/seen/understood/ I only understand English punctuation. s/only/don't/ s/English punctuation/anything information | JSW /dev/null Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't be silly, there's absolutely no need to redirect and waste a precious resource like /dev/null! Proof: $ information | JSW | wc -l 0 $ **** off geek. Why do you have to demonstrate in each and every post that the subject matters you're clueless about are near endless!? (I.e. in this case how Usenet/ NetNews does (not) work.) |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:49:32 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: nospam wrote: In article , Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: Explain to me how it takes time to delete RAM. what for? you have no clue and only want to troll. Hucker is a well known troll. PKB. Prick. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:31:59 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:49:32 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: nospam wrote: In article , Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: Explain to me how it takes time to delete RAM. what for? you have no clue and only want to troll. Hucker is a well known troll. PKB. Prick. Awwww did you not like the truth? |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:03:56 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:35:39 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] Explain to me why stopping using a resource should take time. There's this saying about a horse and water, ... Well nobody's tried. The responses in this thread are best viewed with a computer and your eyes open. Did that, but unfortunately the authors of the posts were lacking in intelligence. BTW, when are you going to re-enroll in Trolling 101? Or have you been banned for life, miserably failing even the entry exam!? In the old days, most trolls were somewhat smart and witty. These days they're just kooks. Not that I want to offend any kooks by implying that our young Jimmy is one. Why is it morons like you assume anyone who disagrees with them must be a troll? You've got some ego. In order to disagree, you must understand first. You've shown you're incapable of that, ergo ... No, you just think I don't understand because my opinion disagrees with yours. I think the word I'm looking for is bigot. You've got some ego. I've to - partially - withdraw my judgement. You *are* funny! Not witty, but - unintentionally I'm sure - quite funny. If you find amusement in simple facts then you have the intelligence of the local homeless drunk that accosts me for loose change sometimes. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:55:48 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] I've not seen one single answer that explains why it takes time to stop doing something. s/seen/understood/ I only understand English punctuation. s/only/don't/ s/English punctuation/anything information | JSW /dev/null Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't be silly, there's absolutely no need to redirect and waste a precious resource like /dev/null! Proof: $ information | JSW | wc -l 0 $ **** off geek. Why do you have to demonstrate in each and every post that the subject matters you're clueless about are near endless!? (I.e. in this case how Usenet/ NetNews does (not) work.) Most people don't talk in computer language. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 02:59:17 +0100, Paul wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: I think it did stay lit, but that could be paging as it only has 4GB RAM. Correction - very little disk activity, 43% CPU usage (of 4 cores). They recommend doing a "Save" first, then "Exit" here. https://forums.thesims.com/EN_US/dis...rever-to-close The purpose of doing a test like that, is to see if the thing is tasked with exiting only, it can do that in a reasonable period of time. I always save then exit, and yes it takes ages. cd C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\The Sims 3\Game\Bin\ start /affinity 3 TS3W.exe "The game has thread-pool issues with more than 2 cores. If you prefer playing at 60 fps, whatever." When you saw 43% CPU usage on a quad core, it can certainly be railed on two cores, but smeared over four cores. ******* If you feel unsure about the usage of affinity, and don't want to adjust affinity from Task Manager, the Boot Manager in Windows should also have the option to limit cores. Purely as an experiment, you could drop the machine to two cores at boot time, and run the game for a test that way. If it shuts down faster under those conditions, it could be that "thread-pool issue" mentioned above. But it would have to fork one hell of a lot of threads, to need minutes to clean up afterwards. If each thread was actively working on something and refused to quit, it might be a different matter. I didn't think threads were that hard to kill. Threads are lighter in weight than a full process, and should be under the complete control of the boss task. I don't really know if there's a way that a thread pool can "go nuts". On Win2K or WinXP, it was the "NUMPROC" option. Which gives a search term to use for Windows 10. The Intel page is for the boot.ini era. https://software.intel.com/en-us/art...windows-system And this is an example of a Vista/W7/W8/W10 command to limit cores. You can run the commands from an Administrator Command Prompt window. https://www.geoffchappell.com/notes/...er/numproc.htm bcdedit === review current settings. So you know what it should look like later. bcdedit /set numproc 2 === limit number of processor cores bcdedit bcdedit /deletevalue {default} numproc === can remove it entirely to return system to original condition. Programs themselves can set their own affinity. If EA/Maxis knew there was a problem, they could patch the product so it set affinity when necessary. An example of a program that set its own affinity, was DScaler (a program that runs a WinTV card). It sets affinity to two particular cores, in the hope the two processes the program uses, will never run on the same core. Doing that, was supposed to prevent the processes from competing with one another. When you pin tasks like that, the scheduler will still try to even the load out on all cores, and the setting doesn't "exclude" other programs from running on the cores in question. HTH, Paul |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:55:48 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] I've not seen one single answer that explains why it takes time to stop doing something. s/seen/understood/ I only understand English punctuation. s/only/don't/ s/English punctuation/anything information | JSW /dev/null Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't be silly, there's absolutely no need to redirect and waste a precious resource like /dev/null! Proof: $ information | JSW | wc -l 0 $ **** off geek. Why do you have to demonstrate in each and every post that the subject matters you're clueless about are near endless!? (I.e. in this case how Usenet/ NetNews does (not) work.) Most people don't talk in computer language. But Jimmy the wannabe-troll *does* dodge and divert like there's no tomorrow! BTW, how's that telling me to FO working for you!? Any success yet!? |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:03:56 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:35:39 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] Explain to me why stopping using a resource should take time. There's this saying about a horse and water, ... Well nobody's tried. The responses in this thread are best viewed with a computer and your eyes open. Did that, but unfortunately the authors of the posts were lacking in intelligence. BTW, when are you going to re-enroll in Trolling 101? Or have you been banned for life, miserably failing even the entry exam!? In the old days, most trolls were somewhat smart and witty. These days they're just kooks. Not that I want to offend any kooks by implying that our young Jimmy is one. Why is it morons like you assume anyone who disagrees with them must be a troll? You've got some ego. In order to disagree, you must understand first. You've shown you're incapable of that, ergo ... No, you just think I don't understand because my opinion disagrees with yours. Earth to Jimmy the wannabe-troll: I - and most, if not all, others - gave facts (on how virtual memory, resource management, etc. actually work), not opinions. You might want to try that some time. BTW, EA asked for you to give them a call. They realize that they're utterly incapable morons in dire need for someone with your excellent expertise in operating system and game design. They're willing to make you an offer you can't resist. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 19:15:49 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:03:56 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:35:39 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] Explain to me why stopping using a resource should take time. There's this saying about a horse and water, ... Well nobody's tried. The responses in this thread are best viewed with a computer and your eyes open. Did that, but unfortunately the authors of the posts were lacking in intelligence. BTW, when are you going to re-enroll in Trolling 101? Or have you been banned for life, miserably failing even the entry exam!? In the old days, most trolls were somewhat smart and witty. These days they're just kooks. Not that I want to offend any kooks by implying that our young Jimmy is one. Why is it morons like you assume anyone who disagrees with them must be a troll? You've got some ego. In order to disagree, you must understand first. You've shown you're incapable of that, ergo ... No, you just think I don't understand because my opinion disagrees with yours. Earth to Jimmy the wannabe-troll: I - and most, if not all, others - gave facts (on how virtual memory, resource management, etc. actually work), not opinions. You might want to try that some time. You gave illogical reasoning. BTW, EA asked for you to give them a call. If they did, they should contact me directly. They realize that they're utterly incapable morons in dire need for someone with your excellent expertise in operating system and game design. They're willing to make you an offer you can't resist. Well they certainly need new staff. Nobody else makes games so preposterously slow. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 18:56:31 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:55:48 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] I've not seen one single answer that explains why it takes time to stop doing something. s/seen/understood/ I only understand English punctuation. s/only/don't/ s/English punctuation/anything information | JSW /dev/null Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't be silly, there's absolutely no need to redirect and waste a precious resource like /dev/null! Proof: $ information | JSW | wc -l 0 $ **** off geek. Why do you have to demonstrate in each and every post that the subject matters you're clueless about are near endless!? (I.e. in this case how Usenet/ NetNews does (not) work.) Most people don't talk in computer language. But Jimmy the wannabe-troll *does* dodge and divert like there's no tomorrow! No, I just dismiss stupid answers. BTW, how's that telling me to FO working for you!? Any success yet!? It worked fine. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 18:56:31 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:55:48 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] I've not seen one single answer that explains why it takes time to stop doing something. s/seen/understood/ I only understand English punctuation. s/only/don't/ s/English punctuation/anything information | JSW /dev/null Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't be silly, there's absolutely no need to redirect and waste a precious resource like /dev/null! Proof: $ information | JSW | wc -l 0 $ **** off geek. Why do you have to demonstrate in each and every post that the subject matters you're clueless about are near endless!? (I.e. in this case how Usenet/ NetNews does (not) work.) Most people don't talk in computer language. But Jimmy the wannabe-troll *does* dodge and divert like there's no tomorrow! No, I just dismiss stupid answers. Says Jimmy the wannabe-troll, who apparently doesn't know the difference between a question and an answer. BTW, how's that telling me to FO working for you!? Any success yet!? It worked fine. FSVSVO 'fine'. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 19:15:49 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:03:56 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:35:39 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] Explain to me why stopping using a resource should take time. There's this saying about a horse and water, ... Well nobody's tried. The responses in this thread are best viewed with a computer and your eyes open. Did that, but unfortunately the authors of the posts were lacking in intelligence. BTW, when are you going to re-enroll in Trolling 101? Or have you been banned for life, miserably failing even the entry exam!? In the old days, most trolls were somewhat smart and witty. These days they're just kooks. Not that I want to offend any kooks by implying that our young Jimmy is one. Why is it morons like you assume anyone who disagrees with them must be a troll? You've got some ego. In order to disagree, you must understand first. You've shown you're incapable of that, ergo ... No, you just think I don't understand because my opinion disagrees with yours. Earth to Jimmy the wannabe-troll: I - and most, if not all, others - gave facts (on how virtual memory, resource management, etc. actually work), not opinions. You might want to try that some time. You gave illogical reasoning. Why are you still using words, whose meaning you clearly don't understand. BTW, EA asked for you to give them a call. If they did, they should contact me directly. They realize that they're utterly incapable morons in dire need for someone with your excellent expertise in operating system and game design. They're willing to make you an offer you can't resist. Well they certainly need new staff. Nobody else makes games so preposterously slow. It's intentional. Just to annoy people who write annoying crap about things which annoy them, because they don't understand them. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:43:00 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 18:56:31 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:55:48 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] I've not seen one single answer that explains why it takes time to stop doing something. s/seen/understood/ I only understand English punctuation. s/only/don't/ s/English punctuation/anything information | JSW /dev/null Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't be silly, there's absolutely no need to redirect and waste a precious resource like /dev/null! Proof: $ information | JSW | wc -l 0 $ **** off geek. Why do you have to demonstrate in each and every post that the subject matters you're clueless about are near endless!? (I.e. in this case how Usenet/ NetNews does (not) work.) Most people don't talk in computer language. But Jimmy the wannabe-troll *does* dodge and divert like there's no tomorrow! No, I just dismiss stupid answers. Says Jimmy the wannabe-troll, who apparently doesn't know the difference between a question and an answer. You posted neither, you posted in machine code. BTW, how's that telling me to FO working for you!? Any success yet!? It worked fine. FSVSVO 'fine'. AVAFJAVKAKKVJAF to you too. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:43:00 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote:
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 19:15:49 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:03:56 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 20:35:39 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] Explain to me why stopping using a resource should take time. There's this saying about a horse and water, ... Well nobody's tried. The responses in this thread are best viewed with a computer and your eyes open. Did that, but unfortunately the authors of the posts were lacking in intelligence. BTW, when are you going to re-enroll in Trolling 101? Or have you been banned for life, miserably failing even the entry exam!? In the old days, most trolls were somewhat smart and witty. These days they're just kooks. Not that I want to offend any kooks by implying that our young Jimmy is one. Why is it morons like you assume anyone who disagrees with them must be a troll? You've got some ego. In order to disagree, you must understand first. You've shown you're incapable of that, ergo ... No, you just think I don't understand because my opinion disagrees with yours. Earth to Jimmy the wannabe-troll: I - and most, if not all, others - gave facts (on how virtual memory, resource management, etc. actually work), not opinions. You might want to try that some time. You gave illogical reasoning. Why are you still using words, whose meaning you clearly don't understand. Why did you place that comma in there for no reason? You're as bad as my council: "Do YOU need more bin liners?" - like I'd ask them to give a friend liners.... BTW, EA asked for you to give them a call. If they did, they should contact me directly. They realize that they're utterly incapable morons in dire need for someone with your excellent expertise in operating system and game design. They're willing to make you an offer you can't resist. Well they certainly need new staff. Nobody else makes games so preposterously slow. It's intentional. Just to annoy people who write annoying crap about things which annoy them, because they don't understand them. No, it makes them lose revenue, because I will never pay for an EA game again. |
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Why isn't closing a program or game instantaneous?
Jim Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 19:43:00 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 18:56:31 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 14:57:03 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:55:48 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jonathan N. Little wrote: Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:14:01 +0100, Frank Slootweg wrote: Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote: [...] I've not seen one single answer that explains why it takes time to stop doing something. s/seen/understood/ I only understand English punctuation. s/only/don't/ s/English punctuation/anything information | JSW /dev/null Sorry, couldn't resist. Don't be silly, there's absolutely no need to redirect and waste a precious resource like /dev/null! Proof: $ information | JSW | wc -l 0 $ **** off geek. Why do you have to demonstrate in each and every post that the subject matters you're clueless about are near endless!? (I.e. in this case how Usenet/ NetNews does (not) work.) Most people don't talk in computer language. But Jimmy the wannabe-troll *does* dodge and divert like there's no tomorrow! No, I just dismiss stupid answers. Says Jimmy the wannabe-troll, who apparently doesn't know the difference between a question and an answer. You posted neither, you posted in machine code. That was SEVEN responses (levels) ago! At least *try* to keep up, will you? Clue-by-four: "... endless?". See that question mark? That ... drum roll ... signifies a QUESTION! BTW, how's that telling me to FO working for you!? Any success yet!? It worked fine. FSVSVO 'fine'. AVAFJAVKAKKVJAF to you too. Flattery like that get's you nowhere. |
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