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Old April 10th 17, 10:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
James Wilkinson Sword
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Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years ago, but it never seemed to happen.
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Old April 10th 17, 10:48 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Melzzzzz[_3_]
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On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this
not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag
between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years
ago, but it never seemed to happen.


Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to
busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you
targetet ads.

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Old April 10th 17, 10:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Melzzzzz wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:


Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file.
Why is this not used on the web to speed things up? There
would be no ping lag between loading each image etc. I
thought this was planned 10 years ago, but it never seemed
to happen.


Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding
browsing info to busy advert sites to collect browsing
habits so that they can serve you targetet ads.


That is fascinating. I spent much time studying TV
commercials simply by watching with the volume off.

These Internet ads will be specifically targeted. I use an ad
blocker but of course some stuff gets through. I try to
notice things that are targeted. Like when they suit my
interest generally but are off-topic.

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No problem. I have an Any key.
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Old April 10th 17, 11:29 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
James Wilkinson Sword
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:58:09 +0100, John Doe wrote:

Melzzzzz wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword wrote:


Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file.
Why is this not used on the web to speed things up? There
would be no ping lag between loading each image etc. I
thought this was planned 10 years ago, but it never seemed
to happen.


Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding
browsing info to busy advert sites to collect browsing
habits so that they can serve you targetet ads.


That is fascinating. I spent much time studying TV
commercials simply by watching with the volume off.


Why? I fast forward them or leave the room to get a snack.

These Internet ads will be specifically targeted. I use an ad
blocker but of course some stuff gets through. I try to
notice things that are targeted. Like when they suit my
interest generally but are off-topic.


I have 3 adblockers and never see one single advert, including targeted, which still doesn't interest me. If I want to know about something, I'll look it up.

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Old April 10th 17, 11:30 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
James Wilkinson Sword
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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this
not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag
between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years
ago, but it never seemed to happen.


Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to
busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you
targetet ads.


But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image is requested seperately. This must take time.

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and there was light, and he saw that it was good and of constant speed.
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Old April 10th 17, 11:37 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Melzzzzz[_3_]
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Default Single file web pages?

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this
not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag
between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years
ago, but it never seemed to happen.


Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to
busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you
targetet ads.


But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're
looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image
is requested seperately. This must take time.

There is `Connection: Keep-Alive ` header for a reason... Besides that
browser caches pages, including images.

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Old April 10th 17, 12:16 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
James Wilkinson Sword
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Default Single file web pages?

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:37:42 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this
not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag
between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years
ago, but it never seemed to happen.

Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to
busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you
targetet ads.


But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're
looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image
is requested seperately. This must take time.

There is `Connection: Keep-Alive ` header for a reason... Besides that
browser caches pages, including images.


So my browser isn't getting one image, then asking for the next? It asks for many at once?

And I'm thinking of new pages I've not seen before. For example I'm trying to buy something on Ebay and need to look through 100s of photos in the gallery mode. None of those will be cached.

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Old April 10th 17, 12:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Melzzzzz[_3_]
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Default Single file web pages?

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:37:42 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this
not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag
between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years
ago, but it never seemed to happen.

Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to
busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you
targetet ads.

But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're
looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image
is requested seperately. This must take time.

There is `Connection: Keep-Alive ` header for a reason... Besides that
browser caches pages, including images.


So my browser isn't getting one image, then asking for the next? It asks for many at once?


It asks many through one or more connections.


And I'm thinking of new pages I've not seen before. For example I'm
trying to buy something on Ebay and need to look through 100s of
photos in the gallery mode. None of those will be cached.


Yep.




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Old April 10th 17, 12:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Single file web pages?

On 10/04/2017 5:42 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this not
used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag between
loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years ago, but it
never seemed to happen.


It's called caching.

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Old April 10th 17, 12:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
James Wilkinson Sword
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Default Single file web pages?

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:19:52 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

On 10/04/2017 5:42 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this not
used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag between
loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years ago, but it
never seemed to happen.


It's called caching.


That's not the same thing at all.

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Old April 10th 17, 12:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
James Wilkinson Sword
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Default Single file web pages?

On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:19:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:37:42 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this
not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag
between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years
ago, but it never seemed to happen.

Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to
busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you
targetet ads.

But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're
looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image
is requested seperately. This must take time.

There is `Connection: Keep-Alive ` header for a reason... Besides that
browser caches pages, including images.


So my browser isn't getting one image, then asking for the next? It asks for many at once?


It asks many through one or more connections.


Then why does it take more than instantaneous to display an Ebay page of 100 images, even though I have a 44Mbit connection?

And I'm thinking of new pages I've not seen before. For example I'm
trying to buy something on Ebay and need to look through 100s of
photos in the gallery mode. None of those will be cached.


Yep.


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Old April 10th 17, 01:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,free.spam
John Doe[_8_]
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Default Single file web pages?

This poster just thinks it never sees an advertisement. That
is because they are very good at getting around ad blockers
and fooling the masses. It is their job.


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On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:58:09 +0100, John Doe always.look message.header wrote:

Melzzzzz Melzzzzz zzzzz.com wrote:

James Wilkinson Sword imvalid somewear.com wrote:


Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file.
Why is this not used on the web to speed things up? There
would be no ping lag between loading each image etc. I
thought this was planned 10 years ago, but it never seemed
to happen.

Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding
browsing info to busy advert sites to collect browsing
habits so that they can serve you targetet ads.


That is fascinating. I spent much time studying TV
commercials simply by watching with the volume off.


Why? I fast forward them or leave the room to get a snack.

These Internet ads will be specifically targeted. I use an ad
blocker but of course some stuff gets through. I try to
notice things that are targeted. Like when they suit my
interest generally but are off-topic.


I have 3 adblockers and never see one single advert, including targeted, which still doesn't interest me. If I want to know about something, I'll look it up.

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Old April 10th 17, 01:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Melzzzzz[_3_]
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Default Single file web pages?

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:19:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:37:42 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this
not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag
between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years
ago, but it never seemed to happen.

Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to
busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you
targetet ads.

But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're
looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image
is requested seperately. This must take time.

There is `Connection: Keep-Alive ` header for a reason... Besides that
browser caches pages, including images.

So my browser isn't getting one image, then asking for the next? It asks for many at once?


It asks many through one or more connections.


Then why does it take more than instantaneous to display an Ebay page
of 100 images, even though I have a 44Mbit connection?


Because they don't just display images, they probably redirects you to
advert sites you haven't blocked probably. Also depends if server is
loaded and their bandwith.

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Old April 10th 17, 01:31 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,free.spam
Melzzzzz[_3_]
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Default Single file web pages?

On 2017-04-10, John Doe wrote:
This poster just thinks it never sees an advertisement. That
is because they are very good at getting around ad blockers
and fooling the masses. It is their job.


It's not just advertisements themselfs, but data collection that does
not displays anything.... just collects data about you..




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Old April 10th 17, 02:09 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jonathan N. Little[_2_]
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Default Single file web pages?

Melzzzzz wrote:
On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:19:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:37:42 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this
not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag
between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years
ago, but it never seemed to happen.

Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to
busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you
targetet ads.

But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're
looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image
is requested seperately. This must take time.

There is `Connection: Keep-Alive ` header for a reason... Besides that
browser caches pages, including images.

So my browser isn't getting one image, then asking for the next? It asks for many at once?

It asks many through one or more connections.


Then why does it take more than instantaneous to display an Ebay page
of 100 images, even though I have a 44Mbit connection?


Because they don't just display images, they probably redirects you to
advert sites you haven't blocked probably. Also depends if server is
loaded and their bandwith.

Size Uncompressed Size
23 Documents 381 KB 2234 KB
93 Images 685 KB 685 KB
0 Objects
18 Scripts 400 KB 1181 KB
4 Style Sheets 41 KB 174 KB
138 Files 1507 KB 4274 KB

Scripts and includes dominate bandwidth over images. Also note scripts
don't just passively load, the execute which also adds time...

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