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#31
April 10th 17, 04:19 PM
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Single file web pages?
On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:02:19 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:16:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:50:40 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:30:12 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:19:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:37:42 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years ago, but it never seemed to happen. Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you targetet ads. But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image is requested seperately. This must take time. There is `Connection: Keep-Alive ` header for a reason... Besides that browser caches pages, including images. So my browser isn't getting one image, then asking for the next? It asks for many at once? It asks many through one or more connections. Then why does it take more than instantaneous to display an Ebay page of 100 images, even though I have a 44Mbit connection? Because they don't just display images, they probably redirects you to advert sites you haven't blocked probably. Also depends if server is loaded and their bandwith. I don't see the adverts. I don't know if they're downloaded or not. I guess they aren't, because some sites put up a pleading notice saying I've blocked their ad. Adverts are not problem but their data collection counterparts. They hide by different domains so that adblock is not effective against them... Data collection doesn't bother me, why does it bother you? It makes sites slow... If an adblocker can spot ads, why can't it spot data collection? Or think of it the other way, if data collection can get by adblockers, why don't they do the same with the ads so we have to see them? Because ad blocker reacts on patterns on urls. Sites that serve adds are well known, and ads themselfes have recognizable patterns, but sites that collect data are sometime unknown. Why is it any harder for the adblocker software to know these? They don't have recognizable patterns in urls. It's just a matter if blablah.com is in block list or not. -- press any key to continue or any other to quit... 
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#32
April 10th 17, 04:23 PM
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Single file web pages?
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:09:55 +0100, "James Wilkinson Sword"
wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:41:02 +0100, Jonathan N. Little wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: But presumably execution is done on the client side, and a decent desktop should do this rapidly. Assuming they are written well and don't adversely interact with others. Not uncommon for sites to load dozens of scripts all trying to determine who you are, where you are on the page, and how long you stay there... Some of those are helpful to avoid you having to type in the same details over and over again. That probably justifies most site loaded scripts. I rarely have to type more than a few letters when I'm searching for items on the web so I don't mind sites identifying me. Steve -- Neural Network Software for Windows http://www.npsnn.com
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#33
April 10th 17, 04:26 PM
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Single file web pages?
On 10/04/2017 7:49 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
It's called caching. That's not the same thing at all. And there is also WayBack Machine!  https://archive.org/web/ I think there are/were internet archive services. Just Google! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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#34
April 10th 17, 04:31 PM
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Single file web pages?
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:08:00 +0100, John Doe wrote:
Shut up already Stop topposting. -- If you walk into a nuclear power station with a pocket full of Brazil nuts, you will set off the radiation leak alarm, as Brazil nuts are radioative.
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#35
April 10th 17, 04:32 PM
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Single file web pages?
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:19:53 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:02:19 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:16:16 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 14:50:40 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:30:12 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 12:19:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 11:37:42 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:48:26 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote: On 2017-04-10, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Your browser can save a webpage as a single mhtml file. Why is this not used on the web to speed things up? There would be no ping lag between loading each image etc. I thought this was planned 10 years ago, but it never seemed to happen. Most lag nowadays is caused by web sites forwarding browsing info to busy advert sites to collect browsing habits so that they can serve you targetet ads. But if you visit a page like Ebay with lots of pictures (say you're looking through a list of things to buy in gallery mode), each image is requested seperately. This must take time. There is `Connection: Keep-Alive ` header for a reason... Besides that browser caches pages, including images. So my browser isn't getting one image, then asking for the next? It asks for many at once? It asks many through one or more connections. Then why does it take more than instantaneous to display an Ebay page of 100 images, even though I have a 44Mbit connection? Because they don't just display images, they probably redirects you to advert sites you haven't blocked probably. Also depends if server is loaded and their bandwith. I don't see the adverts. I don't know if they're downloaded or not. I guess they aren't, because some sites put up a pleading notice saying I've blocked their ad. Adverts are not problem but their data collection counterparts. They hide by different domains so that adblock is not effective against them... Data collection doesn't bother me, why does it bother you? It makes sites slow... If an adblocker can spot ads, why can't it spot data collection? Or think of it the other way, if data collection can get by adblockers, why don't they do the same with the ads so we have to see them? Because ad blocker reacts on patterns on urls. Sites that serve adds are well known, and ads themselfes have recognizable patterns, but sites that collect data are sometime unknown. Why is it any harder for the adblocker software to know these? They don't have recognizable patterns in urls. It's just a matter if blablah.com is in block list or not. I don't see why they would be any different to addresses for ads. -- If you walk into a nuclear power station with a pocket full of Brazil nuts, you will set off the radiation leak alarm, as Brazil nuts are radioative.
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#36
April 10th 17, 04:34 PM
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Single file web pages?
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:26:40 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 10/04/2017 7:49 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: It's called caching. That's not the same thing at all. And there is also WayBack Machine! https://archive.org/web/ I think there are/were internet archive services. Just Google! And the lawyers chase after them as they do with anything useful. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waybac...e#Legal_status -- I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours -- Stephen Roberts
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#37
April 10th 17, 04:37 PM
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Single file web pages?
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:41:02 +0100, Jonathan N. Little wrote: James Wilkinson Sword wrote: But presumably execution is done on the client side, and a decent desktop should do this rapidly. Assuming they are written well and don't adversely interact with others. Not uncommon for sites to load dozens of scripts all trying to determine who you are, where you are on the page, and how long you stay there... Some of those are helpful to avoid you having to type in the same details over and over again. They also can choke a web browser among other things... -- Take care, Jonathan ------------------- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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#38
April 10th 17, 05:00 PM
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The Bit-Torrent Service
On 10/04/2017 11:55 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Or just find a pre-prepared torrent of it, which someone has collected by hacking or buying a password to get all the good bits. Watch out for poisoned software ....  -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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#39
April 10th 17, 05:09 PM
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The Bit-Torrent Service
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:00:02 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 10/04/2017 11:55 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Or just find a pre-prepared torrent of it, which someone has collected by hacking or buying a password to get all the good bits. Watch out for poisoned software .... Can't happen when downloading videos. -- COWS, CALVES: NEVER BRED. Also 1 gay bull for sale.
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#40
April 10th 17, 05:15 PM
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The Bit-Torrent Service
On 11/04/2017 12:09 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
Watch out for poisoned software .... Can't happen when downloading videos. You sure that no visual/audio psychological/dark magical clue frames was implanted in the video or just the soundtrack? Those ghosty things.. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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#41
April 10th 17, 05:47 PM
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The Bit-Torrent Service
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:15:44 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/04/2017 12:09 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: Watch out for poisoned software .... Can't happen when downloading videos. You sure that no visual/audio psychological/dark magical clue frames was implanted in the video or just the soundtrack? Those ghosty things.. Can I use that as an excuse when I get done for murdering someone? -- What's the difference between a church and a cinema? In a church they say "Pray in the name of Jesus!" In a cinema they say "Shut up for christ's sake!"
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#42
April 10th 17, 05:49 PM
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The Bit-Torrent Service
On 11/04/2017 12:47 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:15:44 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: You sure that no visual/audio psychological/dark magical clue frames was implanted in the video or just the soundtrack? Those ghosty things.. Can I use that as an excuse when I get done for murdering someone? Please consult your local lawyers and military psychologist if not psychiatrist. Stay away from the Dark Side of magic and maho! -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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#43
April 10th 17, 05:54 PM
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The Bit-Torrent Service
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:49:21 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/04/2017 12:47 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:15:44 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: You sure that no visual/audio psychological/dark magical clue frames was implanted in the video or just the soundtrack? Those ghosty things.. Can I use that as an excuse when I get done for murdering someone? Please consult your local lawyers and military psychologist if not psychiatrist. Stay away from the Dark Side of magic and maho! But the dark side is more fun! -- While most Americans believe that getting rid of religion is an impossible goal, much of the developed world has already accomplished it. Any account of a ”god gene“ that causes the majority of Americans to helplessly organize their lives around ancient works of religious fiction must explain why so many inhabitants of other First World societies apparently lack such a gene. The level of atheism throughout the rest of the developed world refutes any argument that religion is somehow a moral necessity. Countries like Norway, Iceland, Australia, Canada, Sweden, Switzerland, Belgium, Japan, the Netherlands, Denmark and the United Kingdom are among the least religious societies on Earth. According to the United Nations’ Human Development Report (2005) they are also the healthiest, as indicated by measures of life expectancy, adult literacy, per capita income, educational attainment, gender equality, homicide rate and infant mortality. Conversely, the 50 nations now ranked lowest in terms of human development are unwaveringly religious. --Sam Harris (An Atheist Manifesto)
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#44
April 10th 17, 06:04 PM
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The Bit-Torrent Service
On 11/04/2017 12:54 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:49:21 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Please consult your local lawyers and military psychologist if not psychiatrist. Stay away from the Dark Side of magic and maho! But the dark side is more fun! Your choice, your soul, your life! I am walking away. -- @~@ Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch! Live long and prosper!! / v \ Simplicity is Beauty! /( _ )\ May the Force and farces be with you! ^ ^ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10) Linux 2.6.39.3 不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺! 請考慮綜援 (CSSA): http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_...sub_addressesa
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#45
April 10th 17, 06:46 PM
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The Bit-Torrent Service
On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 18:04:10 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
On 11/04/2017 12:54 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote: On Mon, 10 Apr 2017 17:49:21 +0100, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote: Please consult your local lawyers and military psychologist if not psychiatrist. Stay away from the Dark Side of magic and maho! But the dark side is more fun! Your choice, your soul, your life! I am walking away. Chicken. -- Why is there only one Monopolies Commission?
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