Please stop calling them apps!

On Fri, 17 May 2019 19:47:30 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2019 00:51:27 +0100, notX wrote:

On 5/16/19 12:10 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

[snip]

I must of thought that once. I remember looking as some source code and
one of the error messages was "not enough memory to execute child".

Probably a programmer with a sense of humour.

Or who actually wanted to execute (run) a child program.

Whoever wrote that error message was obviously having a laugh.

Probably at you.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:08:46 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2019 02:04:04 +0100, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Thu, 16 May 2019 19:27:31 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Thu, 16 May 2019 18:16:10 +0100, Sam E wrote:

On 5/16/19 8:30 AM, slate_leeper wrote:
On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:14:30 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?


We used to call those who wrote programs "programmers." What do we
call those who write apps, "applicators?"

-dan z-

"Applicators" sounds like it could be those who use a lot of sunscreen.

The biggest con ever. Apply stuff to your skin so it can't get used to the thing it's protecting you against, so you buy more. Get a real tan, don't use sunscreen.

I continue to be astonished at the small size of the you inhabit.

That was terrible English. I can't even work out what you meant to write.

I agree. It was meant to be "I continue to be astonished at the small
size of the world you inhabit."

Maybe you are excused in this case as you live in Scotland. However,
you should be aware tha in places closer to the equator skin cancer is
is a scourge, particularly (but not exclusively) in fair skinned
people.

Only because they use suncream. Your body naturally protects itself. Take two people, one who goes out in the sun a fair bit, and one who is pasty white. Take them both to a hot country. The white one will burn way more.

Ho! Sun cream is a cause of skin cancer! Your world is not only small
but very peculiar.

I live in New Zealand where everyone of any skin colouring is at risk
of skin cancer.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Fri, 17 May 2019 22:57:22 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:38:36 +0100, Carlos E.R. wrote:

On 17/05/2019 22.08, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 02:04:04 +0100, Eric Stevens
wrote:


Maybe you are excused in this case as you live in Scotland. However,
you should be aware tha in places closer to the equator skin cancer is
is a scourge, particularly (but not exclusively) in fair skinned
people.

Only because they use suncream. Your body naturally protects itself.Take two people, one who goes out in the sun a fair bit, and one who is
pasty white. Take them both to a hot country. The white one will burn
way more.

This is not correct. Even if you get a tan you are at high risk of cancer.

********. If you have no tan you have a way higher risk. The tan is a protection.

Idiot.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Fri, 17 May 2019 16:00:44 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:

On 17/05/2019 03.06, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:28:29 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
wrote:


I remember that "killer app" thing, but not till the 90's at least. But
then there was no internet, so terms travelled slower.

There certainly was Internet in the 90s.

Limited. I saw none of it at college.
I could not get email till 97 or 98.

I can't remember the date but I can remember the circumstances which
caused me to first use the Internet. I have checked and it would have
been in 1995.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Fri, 17 May 2019 19:17:42 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 5/17/19 3:08 PM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

[snip]

I continue to be astonished at the small size of the you inhabit.

That was terrible English.Â* I can't even work out what you meant to write.

I think I did, although the statement would make more sense with the
right word before "you".

Maybe you are excused in this case as you live in Scotland. However,
you should be aware tha in places closer to the equator skin cancer is
is a scourge, particularly (but not exclusively) in fair skinned
people.

Only because they use suncream.Â* Your body naturally protects itself.
Take two people, one who goes out in the sun a fair bit, and one who is
pasty white.Â* Take them both to a hot country.Â* The white one will burn
way more.

In the same way "killing germs" is inappropriate for most people.

A different problem. Skin cancers are not infectious.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:14:30 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

And you are too lazy to say "do not", so do you go into your gar'n to
mow your lawn?

Hypocracy at its worse.


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AnthonyL

On Fri, 17 May 2019 23:59:29 +0100, T wrote:

On 5/17/19 6:43 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I don't know anyone who calls their browser google. They say "chrome".

I get it all-the-time.

q. what browser are you using?
a. I don't have one

q. how do you surf the Internet
a. Google

q. what does the icon look like that you click on
a. Its Google (annoyed voice)

q. describe the google icon
a. look like an orange fox chasing his tail


You get the picture

:'(

I know some computer illiterate people, but I've never heard of anyone that stupid. Perhaps they don't know the name of the browser, but they call it "the internet icon".

On Sat, 18 May 2019 13:09:58 +0100, AnthonyL wrote:

On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:14:30 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

And you are too lazy to say "do not", so do you go into your gar'n to
mow your lawn?

Hypocracy at its worse.

Do not doesn't have the same meaning as don't.
"Don't do that" is not as forceful as "do not do that".

Anyway you misunderstand completely, don't doesn't remove any information.
But shortening application to app can confuse it with 100 other words:
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/wo...start-with-app

On 18/05/2019 02.54, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 16:00:44 +0200, "Carlos E.R."
wrote:

On 17/05/2019 03.06, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:28:29 +0200, "Carlos E. R."
wrote:


I remember that "killer app" thing, but not till the 90's at least. But
then there was no internet, so terms travelled slower.

There certainly was Internet in the 90s.

Limited. I saw none of it at college.
I could not get email till 97 or 98.

I can't remember the date but I can remember the circumstances which
caused me to first use the Internet. I have checked and it would have
been in 1995.

I heard of it at a conference at a university around that year, yes.
They did a demo of web browsing. But the important thing, how to get a
connection from an ISP was missing. It took me a year or two to obtain
one. And in this country, phone connections are metered, even inside the
same city. The cost was not trivial.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 17/05/2019 23.57, nospam wrote:
In article , Tim Slattery
wrote:

I remember that "killer app" thing, but not till the 90's at least. But
then there was no internet, so terms travelled slower.

that's the point.

the term *was* used in the 80s and even the 70s, but relatively few
people had computers then.

I agree. As I remember, the original "killer app" that persuaded many
to buy computers was spreadsheets - specifically VisCalc. That was
early 80's.

i had some time today to dig this up - an early use of the term app was
back in 1985 with framework ii from ashton tate, which was a dos app
that had an 'apps' menu:
https://www.osnews.com/img/24882/apps.PNG

Ah, but those seem "internal" apps to a suite.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 18/05/2019 00.18, nospam wrote:
In article , Commander Kinsey
wrote:


You know what else I hate?

truth

Self opening menus on websites. Reminds me of
macs. I pass my mouse over a menu title, and the ****ing thing opens in the
way of where I was moving the cursor to. Nothing should respond until
clicked!

macs don't do that.

Your front door doesn't open when you look at it, you have to turn the handle!

actually, it does, and that's a good thing.

*many* stores, office buildings, airports and other places have doors
that open when someone approaches, which is particularly convenient
when the person's hands are full carrying bags.

some garage door openers use proximity sensors so that the garage door
goes up as the person's vehicle approaches.

Very nice for thieves.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 17/05/2019 23.54, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:53:03 +0100, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 17/05/2019 22.22, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 14:54:09 +0100, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 16/05/2019 23.26, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2019 20:35:21 +0100, Carlos E. R.
wrote:

On 16/05/2019 20.29, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2019 18:19:15 +0100, hah

wrote:

On 5/16/19 9:20 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:

[snip]

Well it's not used that way now.* If Mr Smith is executed, he's
gone to
the electric chair.

"Gas kills best." -- this message brought to you by your gas
company
:-)

I liked gas when it was used in the dentist instead of those ****ing
needles!

They don't use gas here. I have never seen it. Only recently heard a
commercial on the radio of a site that might be using it because of
what
they described. Or maybe it is a strong sedative in advance.

Here dentists use a touch anaesthetic before driving in the
needle, so
we don't feel it.

I'm 43 in the UK.* I got gas when I was a kid, knocked me
unconscious in
seconds, next thing I knew the work was complete with no pain.* But
apparently it killed a few weak people so they stopped it and
ruined it
for the rest of us.* Nowadays they use a needle in the gum, it
hurts!In America they use some weird psychadelic ****, see Youtube
for videos
of loads of kids off their ****ing skulls on it.

Apparently, gas has not been used here in my fifty something years.*
But
the thing is, the needle doesn't hurt if the dentists knows how.

It's not actually that painful, it's the thought that counts.* Most
people subconsciously object to a long piece of thin metal going inside
their body.* Just like most people hate spiders.

Well, there is that. I get impatient and nervous but stay still.

I lose consciousness unless I have a cold flannel on my head, the chair
is tilted so my head is lower than my body, and a fan is blowing across
my face.* My body strongly objects to a needle inside me.* My dentist
actually has this in my notes.

Oh :-(


Some do
it better than others. Some use a spray bottle with a little tube that
numbs the gum where the needle is going to enter. My dentist use a tiny
swab of cotton held with pincers, and the needle doesn't hurt.
Uncomfortable yes, because he takes his time with it, so there is no
pain later.

Mine takes time, the trouble with that is if you move slightly.* My
friend moved quite a bit and had the needle snap off inside his gum.

:-(

I think his face was a bit more interestingly shaped than that.

heh.


And, as we are conscious during the procedure,

Well it always worked fine when I was unconscious as a kid on gas.

Maybe they used it on kids because they would not cooperate. I didn't. I
was not strong enough to run away :-(

You don't need to run, just move enough to impede the operation.

They held me...


we have to cooperate with him: open, close, rinse...

I can never open my mouth far enough for her to get inside properly, I'm
not Aerosmith.


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Cheers, Carlos.

On 18/05/2019 00.59, T wrote:
On 5/17/19 6:43 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
IÂ*don'tÂ*knowÂ*anyoneÂ*whoÂ*callsÂ*theirÂ*browser Â*google.Â*Â*TheyÂ*sayÂ*"chrome".

I get it all-the-time.

q.Â* what browser are you using?
a.Â* I don't have one

q.Â* how do you surf the Internet
a.Â* Google

q.Â* what does the icon look like that you click on
a.Â* Its Google (annoyed voice)

q. describe the google icon
a. look like an orange fox chasing his tail


You get the picture

:'(

Yes, I have seen that.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 17/05/2019 23.57, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 21:38:36 +0100, Carlos E.R.
wrote:

On 17/05/2019 22.08, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 02:04:04 +0100, Eric Stevens
wrote:


Maybe you are excused in this case as you live in Scotland. However,
you should be aware tha in places closer to the equator skin cancer is
is a scourge, particularly (but not exclusively) in fair skinned
people.

Only because they use suncream.* Your body naturally protects
itself.Take two people, one who goes out in the sun a fair bit, and
one who is
pasty white.* Take them both to a hot country.* The white one will burn
way more.

This is not correct. Even if you get a tan you are at high risk of
cancer.

********.* If you have no tan you have a way higher risk.* The tan is a
protection.

Not as good as you think. I know, I have seen tanned people with skin
cancer. Any doctor here (Spain) will tell you that. The tan stops the
burning, that's all.

And anyway, how you get the tan is critical. You have to get it slowly,
avoiding burning.

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Cheers, Carlos.

On 5/18/19 6:14 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 17 May 2019 23:59:29 +0100, T wrote:

On 5/17/19 6:43 AM, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I don't know anyone who calls their browser google. They say "chrome".

I get it all-the-time.

q. what browser are you using?
a. I don't have one

q. how do you surf the Internet
a. Google

q. what does the icon look like that you click on
a. Its Google (annoyed voice)

q. describe the google icon
a. look like an orange fox chasing his tail


You get the picture

:'(

I know some computer illiterate people, but I've never heard of anyone that stupid. Perhaps they don't know the name of the browser, but they call it "the internet icon".

Sadly, they do exist. :-(



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