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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:39:31 -0600, Char Jackson wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 11:35:18 -0600, Wildman wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 21:10:10 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:34:26 -0600, wrote: The SVI folders are all empty. How are you verifying that? Windows Explorer isn't going to help, but you can use a few other methods. I use Treesize Free to explore in there, but Linux should also work. Be careful, though, some folks report that their PC will no longer boot after mucking around in there. There is no danger in "reading" a file system no matter what method or OS you are using. The mucking around you mentioned would only occur if the user done something that caused the file system to be written to. I was being respectful toward frequent contributor "Paul", who has related his experience that just looking around caused one of his systems to be unbootable into Windows, unless I'm misunderstanding what he said. But yes, at least in my case, just looking around has never caused me any issues. I mean no disrespect either but, I sand by what I said. "Mucking around" does not occur as long as the file system remains read-only. Period. -- Wildman GNU/Linux user #557453 The cow died so I don't need your bull! |
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Wildman wrote:
On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:39:31 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 11:35:18 -0600, Wildman wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 21:10:10 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 20:34:26 -0600, wrote: The SVI folders are all empty. How are you verifying that? Windows Explorer isn't going to help, but you can use a few other methods. I use Treesize Free to explore in there, but Linux should also work. Be careful, though, some folks report that their PC will no longer boot after mucking around in there. There is no danger in "reading" a file system no matter what method or OS you are using. The mucking around you mentioned would only occur if the user done something that caused the file system to be written to. I was being respectful toward frequent contributor "Paul", who has related his experience that just looking around caused one of his systems to be unbootable into Windows, unless I'm misunderstanding what he said. But yes, at least in my case, just looking around has never caused me any issues. I mean no disrespect either but, I sand by what I said. "Mucking around" does not occur as long as the file system remains read-only. Period. Well, it surprised the hell out of me. I was using the "sum" command on the large files I found in System Volume Information. All of the large files have a sum of "00000". I thought that was pretty neat. These could well have been some representation of a shadow copy. Well, after I summed those files in SVI (which is *read* not write), I could no longer boot Windows 7. The automatic repair tried three times to repair it, the third pass being a block by block CHKDSK scan (takes an hour). And nada. Could not recover. Since I had a backup that coincidentally had been made only two hours before, I just restored, rather than make a lifetime research project of it. I wasn't planning on trashing the OS that day, and got really lucky on having a backup. So while I still feel perfectly safe using Linux for both read and write on NTFS, the experience did shake my confidence just a tiny bit. And I feel there is some property of those files that isn't "normal". The checksum of exactly zero on each (1GB or so) file, was pretty weird. What was it reading ? Dunno. I wouldn't think of writing to those files. I know better than that. Reading them would change the "Last Accessed" time, that's assuming Linux even enables that. On Windows, you can disable Last Accessed tracking if you want, without side effects (I think people do that for SSD drive usage). Paul |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 23:01:12 +0000, "J. P. Gilliver (John)"
wrote: If you open mystery files in IrfanView, then - at least if it's one of the common image formats, I'm not sure if it now does it for other types - if it is a type it recognises, it will popup something like "xxx is a .jpg file with incorrect extension. Rename?" (Even if you say no [in which case it doesn't rename!], it still _displays_ them.) Hmmmmmm, I never knew that was possible. I'll have to try it. Seems easier than using the Hex Editor. With the Hex Editor, I still dont know which .jpg I found, till I open it. Much of the time they are something useless like a facebook icon or advertisment. I have always used Acdsee for image viewing, but I have installed and occasionally used Infranview. |
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On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:01:31 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Tue, 28 Nov 2017 12:39:31 -0600, Char Jackson wrote: But yes, at least in my case, just looking around has never caused me any issues. I was just "looking around" in my garage the other day. I was looking for something and didn't look where I was going, so I tripped and fell on the floor. Fortunately, I didn't break anything, but I did have (and still have) some issues--bruises and pain. vbg LOL Keeping it real. -- Char Jackson |
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Glad your OK Ken but please be careful,
it's those kind of falls that can lead to serious issues. I know from experience,... Robert |
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Dell 780 Problem:
In message , Paul
writes: Mark Twain wrote: I contacted Crucial and this is their replies: Hello Robert, Thank you for contacting Crucial! I am sorry to say, but it looks like the order encountered an error. The charge you see will drop off and release the hold on your funds shortly. [] That seems like a pretty absurd response from them. [] Sometimes, transactions get blocked based on your location. For example, when I bought a copy of Nero CD burning software, the payment processing was done in Germany. And based on my credit card usage, seeing a charge in Germany caused the credit card company to block the transaction, until I phoned them and said it was OK. The Crucial payment processing is likely to be in the US, so it shouldn't have happened. [] Assuming "Mark Twain" is also in the US, of course (-:! (One _assumes_ that someone choosing that identity will be, but you never know ...) Though I (in the UK) have bought things from the US before without my CCC raising any problem. But that may vary from company to company. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf The early worm gets the bird. |
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Dell 780 Problem:
Yes,.born in the USA,
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Dell 780 Problem:
I meant I'll wait until I have the DIMMS before
clearing the cache and cookies and the other two you recommended. Robert |
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Dell 780 Problem:
This is their response after my last email to them:
Hello Robert, Thank you for contacting Crucial. We had stated, no order had been place with the email address you contacted us with. After looking more in depth into this we have found the order placed with a different email address. I have included your order number and tracking number below. If you have further questions, we welcome your email reply. You can also visit our Contact page at http://www.crucial.com/usa/ en/support-contact for other ways to reach us. Best Wishes, KATHRYN PETERS E-Commerce Sales and Support Micron Technology, Inc. Well,.. what d-ya know, I was right all along,. all they had to do was a little bit of work on their end. I noticed they made no apologies for the inconvenience they put me through and I was ready to go to the bank tomorrow. I'll do the Memtest when they arrive,. Robert |
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Dell 780 Problem:
Last response and apology from Crucial
Hello Robert, Thank you for contacting Crucial.com! Just before I clicked send on the last e-mail I sent you, I captured this order number xxxxxx, by translating the web order in your e-mail. I apologize for this confusion and inconvenience. I searched the e-mail you sent your e-mail from and no order was found. Only after realizing there was a web order did I discover your order. The order shows as being shipped: He gave order number and tracking information in here. If you have further questions, we welcome your reply. You can also visit our Contact page at http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/support contact for other ways to reach us. Best Regards, JAMESON A. E-Commerce Sales and Support Micron Technology, Inc. |
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Dell 780 Problem:
The DIMMS arrived today and I made sure the
Memtest CD was in the 780 before I switched the DIMMS so that it would do the Memtest before Windows could sign on. Both DIMMS completed (1) pass with no errors. I then put in the other DIMMS to test both but forgot to put in the CD! So when the sign-on screen came up I selected shut-down and inserted the CD. Will that be OK? It's running the dual DIMM test now,..... I put the old DIMMS in the clear plastic cases the new ones came in to serve as spares just in case since we already tested them. Is there any other tests I should do on the 780 or 8500? Thanks, Robert |
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Dell 780 Problem:
I completed the dual DIMMS test with no errors.
How shall I proceed or am I done? I think I'll keep the Memtest CD for future use. I'm just thinking,. although the 8500 Memtest showed no errors do you think I should also replace the 8500 DIMMS with matching DIMMS? I remember you commenting they were all matched and were all the same speed. What do you think? How often should DIMMS be replaced? Thanks, Robert |
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Dell 780 Problem:
Mark Twain wrote:
The DIMMS arrived today and I made sure the Memtest CD was in the 780 before I switched the DIMMS so that it would do the Memtest before Windows could sign on. Both DIMMS completed (1) pass with no errors. I then put in the other DIMMS to test both but forgot to put in the CD! So when the sign-on screen came up I selected shut-down and inserted the CD. Will that be OK? It's running the dual DIMM test now,..... I put the old DIMMS in the clear plastic cases the new ones came in to serve as spares just in case since we already tested them. Is there any other tests I should do on the 780 or 8500? Thanks, Robert The best way to do it, is to boot a Linux LiveCD and run mprime from there. That prevents Windows from running, until the memory testing is finished. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prime9...stress_testing https://www.mersenne.org/download/ Unfortunately, there are no simple one-click boot CDs all set up for you, to run that. There is no CD that is quite like the memtest disc you've been using. They all require some setup work. You can also run that from Windows, but then that violates the rule of completing the memory testing before booting Windows. If you're bored, you can certainly give it a try (in Windows). Select the download that best fits your OS (64-bit). When the program asks "Join GIMPS", say No, just stress testing. The stress test in that program, was intended to weed out bad computers from computing prime numbers. Joining GIMPS involves donating computer time (and electricity) to their attempts to find larger and larger prime numbers. There is a small cash reward to the person whose computer computes a winner. (And it takes a couple months for a powerful computer, to double-check that the winning client really computed a winner.) But people don't join GIMPS for cash. There are plenty of other "computer schemes", with a more direct effort versus cash relationship. The odds are extremely low of getting a thing, if you joined GIMPs. It's a kind of "math geek" thing. But their stress tester is good, and I like it. At the sign of an error, a thread of execution stops, and for the version with the GUI, the thread color indicator turns Red, and that's when you know some of your hardware stinks :-) The Windows version has a GUI. My old AthlonXP overclocked processor, the Prime95 program would turn Red in only two seconds. And that means the CPU is really unstable and making math errors like crazy. You fix that by turning down the clock speed. I only tested that (for a short time), just to see it really didn't make the computer any faster for practical work. So I went back to stock speed, which is error free. On that processor, the system bus is too slow, and the poor processor is "starved" at high speeds. Paul |
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Dell 780 Problem:
Mark Twain wrote:
I completed the dual DIMMS test with no errors. How shall I proceed or am I done? I think I'll keep the Memtest CD for future use. I'm just thinking,. although the 8500 Memtest showed no errors do you think I should also replace the 8500 DIMMS with matching DIMMS? I remember you commenting they were all matched and were all the same speed. What do you think? How often should DIMMS be replaced? Thanks, Robert As long as the 8500 passed your test, there's nothing to do. The purpose of testing an existing set of DIMMs, is just to verify they're still in good shape. If they pass, then you can do the test again in a years time. What you're looking for, is unsuspected trouble. Where there weren't any other symptoms. And so you do your check on them once a year "to keep them honest". If the machine has been performing well with the 12GB now installed, I see no reason to mess around with the setup. As far as I know, your DIMMs are already in matched sets, a pair of 4GB sticks and a pair of 2GB sticks. If you check in Task Manager on a daily basis, I doubt you're getting even remotely close to the "top of RAM". It would take a lot of Firefox tabs to do that. Paul |
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