Lost Settings

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

I use spybot S&D too, just default mode (for all) by the way, scanning now
and then. I also use Adaware SE from Lavasoft and MS's bata ver with great
results.
You may want to start by setting sbs&d to not be so automated , then set it
to default mode. Also check and see if your sbs&d is ver 1.3
I'm not sure about the other problem, you'll need an MVP for that one.

I hope these links work, their aol links-
Click he Home - The home of Spybot-S&D!
Click he About - Lavasoft
Click he Microsoft Windows AntiSpyware (Beta) Home


"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

I am -not- going to reinstall. All the different programs seems to be
suffering from a similar problem: Settings are lost. This is what I am
interested in. An article or procedure to track down problems whose symptoms
are an overall loss of prefferences after the restart of programs.

Yes, I do have good protection against spyware, virii, worms, trojans, etc,
etc, etc.
I do know what I'm doing where basic security is concerned. I do not know
what I am doing, when it comes to windows subsystems. And I am asking for
help.

How do I establish the root cause of a general loss of prefferences?

XP.HomeSP2
Autoupdate
Virus: Kaspersky / AVG - Clean
Spywa Ad-Aware / Spyware Doctor / Spybot S&D - Clean
Firewall: ZA(P) / Spybot S&D 1.4 (Portinspection) / Blocklists

"Jaymon" wrote:

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

Sorry, didn't mean to bite. Bit grouchy. This issue is systemic, something
isn't right in the basic system. I don't know what it is, and I want to find
out. What you suggest might actually solve it, but it get to the underlying
issue: What is causing this.

"rzr" wrote:

I am -not- going to reinstall. All the different programs seems to be
suffering from a similar problem: Settings are lost. This is what I am
interested in. An article or procedure to track down problems whose symptoms
are an overall loss of prefferences after the restart of programs.

Yes, I do have good protection against spyware, virii, worms, trojans, etc,
etc, etc.
I do know what I'm doing where basic security is concerned. I do not know
what I am doing, when it comes to windows subsystems. And I am asking for
help.

How do I establish the root cause of a general loss of prefferences?

XP.HomeSP2
Autoupdate
Virus: Kaspersky / AVG - Clean
Spywa Ad-Aware / Spyware Doctor / Spybot S&D - Clean
Firewall: ZA(P) / Spybot S&D 1.4 (Portinspection) / Blocklists

"Jaymon" wrote:

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

Ok, you may have too much protection that is in conflict with the OS or each
of the programs themselves.

Sometimes there are conflicts between AV programs and or firewall programs
as well as spyware removal programs.
It appears to me (it's free country), that you may be having a symptom of a
conflict, that is over protecting system changes, of any kind going on here?

I could be wrong too, but let me ask you this.. In the security center, this
is in control panel, see if the firewall is on, click it to reveal the name,
is there more than one? do the same with virus protection. There should be
only one firewall active on your computer the windows sp2 firewall or another
of your choice but not both or several. The same is true for AV programs that
are equipped with an auto protect mode one of those types of AV programs is
all you need. And set the spyware scanners to manual scan or not, not forever
just to see if it might be part of the problem if not, turn em back to auto
scan.

Now, If you see only one firewall program and AV program in security center
leave those and remove the rest or not it's your call..

If the problem is in the registry, well, removing unnecessary programs might
help here too, just go to add or remove programs, not the registry itself.

OR, try this go to the cmd prompt/dos window and at the prompt type sfc then
/scannow, if prompted, insert the XP setup disk and sytem file checker will
fix corrupted or damaged system files.


Also, you might use a restore point if one exists to go back to a time when
all was well.

I hope all goes well

j:-)


"rzr" wrote:

I am -not- going to reinstall. All the different programs seems to be
suffering from a similar problem: Settings are lost. This is what I am
interested in. An article or procedure to track down problems whose symptoms
are an overall loss of prefferences after the restart of programs.

Yes, I do have good protection against spyware, virii, worms, trojans, etc,
etc, etc.
I do know what I'm doing where basic security is concerned. I do not know
what I am doing, when it comes to windows subsystems. And I am asking for
help.

How do I establish the root cause of a general loss of prefferences?

XP.HomeSP2
Autoupdate
Virus: Kaspersky / AVG - Clean
Spywa Ad-Aware / Spyware Doctor / Spybot S&D - Clean
Firewall: ZA(P) / Spybot S&D 1.4 (Portinspection) / Blocklists

"Jaymon" wrote:

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

Security center, green lights across the board. Only one firewall running.
As to sfc, I run LANguard S.I.M. nightly. Aren't there any good registry
health or general system health checkers out there? I don't mean registry
cleaners or system optimizers, but some soft that just checks if everything
is as it should be.

As to SS&D and ZA(P) I just corrected their settings the hard way, by
replacing the setting files they start up with. Basically by just shutting
down the programs -before- system shut down. After that, I haven't had the
same problems with them. Although they still don't safe their latest settings
correctly on shut down, at least they're more up to date now.
This proves the point the programs aren't malfunctioning, but the shut down
goes wrong in some way. -Reinstalling- is a way around it, but that's like
tearing down and rebuilding a whole city because the sewer system in a
cityblock is clogged.
It'll get rid of the problem, but, well, it isn't satisfactory. I want to
-know- what's causing the problem and fix it.

As to security overkill, that's not an issue. Most is on demand, only a
handfull run continuously: Firewall, Blocklist, AV, Regchecker. One of each.
There is an automated system files integrity check (like sfc) which runs
nightly, as well as a Dshield report which reports all IPs that have attacked
or hassled my IP in the last 24 hours. Hardly overkill.

Any ideas where to go from here?

"Jaymon" wrote:

Ok, you may have too much protection that is in conflict with the OS or each
of the programs themselves.

Sometimes there are conflicts between AV programs and or firewall programs
as well as spyware removal programs.
It appears to me (it's free country), that you may be having a symptom of a
conflict, that is over protecting system changes, of any kind going on here?

I could be wrong too, but let me ask you this.. In the security center, this
is in control panel, see if the firewall is on, click it to reveal the name,
is there more than one? do the same with virus protection. There should be
only one firewall active on your computer the windows sp2 firewall or another
of your choice but not both or several. The same is true for AV programs that
are equipped with an auto protect mode one of those types of AV programs is
all you need. And set the spyware scanners to manual scan or not, not forever
just to see if it might be part of the problem if not, turn em back to auto
scan.

Now, If you see only one firewall program and AV program in security center
leave those and remove the rest or not it's your call..

If the problem is in the registry, well, removing unnecessary programs might
help here too, just go to add or remove programs, not the registry itself.

OR, try this go to the cmd prompt/dos window and at the prompt type sfc then
/scannow, if prompted, insert the XP setup disk and sytem file checker will
fix corrupted or damaged system files.


Also, you might use a restore point if one exists to go back to a time when
all was well.

I hope all goes well

j:-)


"rzr" wrote:

I am -not- going to reinstall. All the different programs seems to be
suffering from a similar problem: Settings are lost. This is what I am
interested in. An article or procedure to track down problems whose symptoms
are an overall loss of prefferences after the restart of programs.

Yes, I do have good protection against spyware, virii, worms, trojans, etc,
etc, etc.
I do know what I'm doing where basic security is concerned. I do not know
what I am doing, when it comes to windows subsystems. And I am asking for
help.

How do I establish the root cause of a general loss of prefferences?

XP.HomeSP2
Autoupdate
Virus: Kaspersky / AVG - Clean
Spywa Ad-Aware / Spyware Doctor / Spybot S&D - Clean
Firewall: ZA(P) / Spybot S&D 1.4 (Portinspection) / Blocklists

"Jaymon" wrote:

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

Ok, I don't want you to shoot a fly with a shotgun either thats why I need
info, the more the better. Anyway, did you try a clean boot by using msconfig?



"rzr" wrote:

Security center, green lights across the board. Only one firewall running.
As to sfc, I run LANguard S.I.M. nightly. Aren't there any good registry
health or general system health checkers out there? I don't mean registry
cleaners or system optimizers, but some soft that just checks if everything
is as it should be.

As to SS&D and ZA(P) I just corrected their settings the hard way, by
replacing the setting files they start up with. Basically by just shutting
down the programs -before- system shut down. After that, I haven't had the
same problems with them. Although they still don't safe their latest settings
correctly on shut down, at least they're more up to date now.
This proves the point the programs aren't malfunctioning, but the shut down
goes wrong in some way. -Reinstalling- is a way around it, but that's like
tearing down and rebuilding a whole city because the sewer system in a
cityblock is clogged.
It'll get rid of the problem, but, well, it isn't satisfactory. I want to
-know- what's causing the problem and fix it.

As to security overkill, that's not an issue. Most is on demand, only a
handfull run continuously: Firewall, Blocklist, AV, Regchecker. One of each.
There is an automated system files integrity check (like sfc) which runs
nightly, as well as a Dshield report which reports all IPs that have attacked
or hassled my IP in the last 24 hours. Hardly overkill.

Any ideas where to go from here?

"Jaymon" wrote:

Ok, you may have too much protection that is in conflict with the OS or each
of the programs themselves.

Sometimes there are conflicts between AV programs and or firewall programs
as well as spyware removal programs.
It appears to me (it's free country), that you may be having a symptom of a
conflict, that is over protecting system changes, of any kind going on here?

I could be wrong too, but let me ask you this.. In the security center, this
is in control panel, see if the firewall is on, click it to reveal the name,
is there more than one? do the same with virus protection. There should be
only one firewall active on your computer the windows sp2 firewall or another
of your choice but not both or several. The same is true for AV programs that
are equipped with an auto protect mode one of those types of AV programs is
all you need. And set the spyware scanners to manual scan or not, not forever
just to see if it might be part of the problem if not, turn em back to auto
scan.

Now, If you see only one firewall program and AV program in security center
leave those and remove the rest or not it's your call..

If the problem is in the registry, well, removing unnecessary programs might
help here too, just go to add or remove programs, not the registry itself.

OR, try this go to the cmd prompt/dos window and at the prompt type sfc then
/scannow, if prompted, insert the XP setup disk and sytem file checker will
fix corrupted or damaged system files.


Also, you might use a restore point if one exists to go back to a time when
all was well.

I hope all goes well

j:-)


"rzr" wrote:

I am -not- going to reinstall. All the different programs seems to be
suffering from a similar problem: Settings are lost. This is what I am
interested in. An article or procedure to track down problems whose symptoms
are an overall loss of prefferences after the restart of programs.

Yes, I do have good protection against spyware, virii, worms, trojans, etc,
etc, etc.
I do know what I'm doing where basic security is concerned. I do not know
what I am doing, when it comes to windows subsystems. And I am asking for
help.

How do I establish the root cause of a general loss of prefferences?

XP.HomeSP2
Autoupdate
Virus: Kaspersky / AVG - Clean
Spywa Ad-Aware / Spyware Doctor / Spybot S&D - Clean
Firewall: ZA(P) / Spybot S&D 1.4 (Portinspection) / Blocklists

"Jaymon" wrote:

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

Isn't that the procedure that reverts to the settings of the first succesful
launch after installing XP? Wouldn't I loose all the settings of all the
programs added since then?

"Jaymon" wrote:

Ok, I don't want you to shoot a fly with a shotgun either thats why I need
info, the more the better. Anyway, did you try a clean boot by using msconfig?



"rzr" wrote:

Security center, green lights across the board. Only one firewall running.
As to sfc, I run LANguard S.I.M. nightly. Aren't there any good registry
health or general system health checkers out there? I don't mean registry
cleaners or system optimizers, but some soft that just checks if everything
is as it should be.

As to SS&D and ZA(P) I just corrected their settings the hard way, by
replacing the setting files they start up with. Basically by just shutting
down the programs -before- system shut down. After that, I haven't had the
same problems with them. Although they still don't safe their latest settings
correctly on shut down, at least they're more up to date now.
This proves the point the programs aren't malfunctioning, but the shut down
goes wrong in some way. -Reinstalling- is a way around it, but that's like
tearing down and rebuilding a whole city because the sewer system in a
cityblock is clogged.
It'll get rid of the problem, but, well, it isn't satisfactory. I want to
-know- what's causing the problem and fix it.

As to security overkill, that's not an issue. Most is on demand, only a
handfull run continuously: Firewall, Blocklist, AV, Regchecker. One of each.
There is an automated system files integrity check (like sfc) which runs
nightly, as well as a Dshield report which reports all IPs that have attacked
or hassled my IP in the last 24 hours. Hardly overkill.

Any ideas where to go from here?

"Jaymon" wrote:

Ok, you may have too much protection that is in conflict with the OS or each
of the programs themselves.

Sometimes there are conflicts between AV programs and or firewall programs
as well as spyware removal programs.
It appears to me (it's free country), that you may be having a symptom of a
conflict, that is over protecting system changes, of any kind going on here?

I could be wrong too, but let me ask you this.. In the security center, this
is in control panel, see if the firewall is on, click it to reveal the name,
is there more than one? do the same with virus protection. There should be
only one firewall active on your computer the windows sp2 firewall or another
of your choice but not both or several. The same is true for AV programs that
are equipped with an auto protect mode one of those types of AV programs is
all you need. And set the spyware scanners to manual scan or not, not forever
just to see if it might be part of the problem if not, turn em back to auto
scan.

Now, If you see only one firewall program and AV program in security center
leave those and remove the rest or not it's your call..

If the problem is in the registry, well, removing unnecessary programs might
help here too, just go to add or remove programs, not the registry itself.

OR, try this go to the cmd prompt/dos window and at the prompt type sfc then
/scannow, if prompted, insert the XP setup disk and sytem file checker will
fix corrupted or damaged system files.


Also, you might use a restore point if one exists to go back to a time when
all was well.

I hope all goes well

j:-)


"rzr" wrote:

I am -not- going to reinstall. All the different programs seems to be
suffering from a similar problem: Settings are lost. This is what I am
interested in. An article or procedure to track down problems whose symptoms
are an overall loss of prefferences after the restart of programs.

Yes, I do have good protection against spyware, virii, worms, trojans, etc,
etc, etc.
I do know what I'm doing where basic security is concerned. I do not know
what I am doing, when it comes to windows subsystems. And I am asking for
help.

How do I establish the root cause of a general loss of prefferences?

XP.HomeSP2
Autoupdate
Virus: Kaspersky / AVG - Clean
Spywa Ad-Aware / Spyware Doctor / Spybot S&D - Clean
Firewall: ZA(P) / Spybot S&D 1.4 (Portinspection) / Blocklists

"Jaymon" wrote:

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

No, and maybe yes in a good way. It can be set back to normal boot up later,
basically said it will allow you to trouble shoot if a clean boot indeed
solves the problem your having. It is a selective startup explained step by
step see link below:


http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...&osv=&osv_lvl=

Be cool
J;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Isn't that the procedure that reverts to the settings of the first succesful
launch after installing XP? Wouldn't I loose all the settings of all the
programs added since then?

"Jaymon" wrote:

Ok, I don't want you to shoot a fly with a shotgun either thats why I need
info, the more the better. Anyway, did you try a clean boot by using msconfig?



"rzr" wrote:

Security center, green lights across the board. Only one firewall running.
As to sfc, I run LANguard S.I.M. nightly. Aren't there any good registry
health or general system health checkers out there? I don't mean registry
cleaners or system optimizers, but some soft that just checks if everything
is as it should be.

As to SS&D and ZA(P) I just corrected their settings the hard way, by
replacing the setting files they start up with. Basically by just shutting
down the programs -before- system shut down. After that, I haven't had the
same problems with them. Although they still don't safe their latest settings
correctly on shut down, at least they're more up to date now.
This proves the point the programs aren't malfunctioning, but the shut down
goes wrong in some way. -Reinstalling- is a way around it, but that's like
tearing down and rebuilding a whole city because the sewer system in a
cityblock is clogged.
It'll get rid of the problem, but, well, it isn't satisfactory. I want to
-know- what's causing the problem and fix it.

As to security overkill, that's not an issue. Most is on demand, only a
handfull run continuously: Firewall, Blocklist, AV, Regchecker. One of each.
There is an automated system files integrity check (like sfc) which runs
nightly, as well as a Dshield report which reports all IPs that have attacked
or hassled my IP in the last 24 hours. Hardly overkill.

Any ideas where to go from here?

"Jaymon" wrote:

Ok, you may have too much protection that is in conflict with the OS or each
of the programs themselves.

Sometimes there are conflicts between AV programs and or firewall programs
as well as spyware removal programs.
It appears to me (it's free country), that you may be having a symptom of a
conflict, that is over protecting system changes, of any kind going on here?

I could be wrong too, but let me ask you this.. In the security center, this
is in control panel, see if the firewall is on, click it to reveal the name,
is there more than one? do the same with virus protection. There should be
only one firewall active on your computer the windows sp2 firewall or another
of your choice but not both or several. The same is true for AV programs that
are equipped with an auto protect mode one of those types of AV programs is
all you need. And set the spyware scanners to manual scan or not, not forever
just to see if it might be part of the problem if not, turn em back to auto
scan.

Now, If you see only one firewall program and AV program in security center
leave those and remove the rest or not it's your call..

If the problem is in the registry, well, removing unnecessary programs might
help here too, just go to add or remove programs, not the registry itself.

OR, try this go to the cmd prompt/dos window and at the prompt type sfc then
/scannow, if prompted, insert the XP setup disk and sytem file checker will
fix corrupted or damaged system files.


Also, you might use a restore point if one exists to go back to a time when
all was well.

I hope all goes well

j:-)


"rzr" wrote:

I am -not- going to reinstall. All the different programs seems to be
suffering from a similar problem: Settings are lost. This is what I am
interested in. An article or procedure to track down problems whose symptoms
are an overall loss of prefferences after the restart of programs.

Yes, I do have good protection against spyware, virii, worms, trojans, etc,
etc, etc.
I do know what I'm doing where basic security is concerned. I do not know
what I am doing, when it comes to windows subsystems. And I am asking for
help.

How do I establish the root cause of a general loss of prefferences?

XP.HomeSP2
Autoupdate
Virus: Kaspersky / AVG - Clean
Spywa Ad-Aware / Spyware Doctor / Spybot S&D - Clean
Firewall: ZA(P) / Spybot S&D 1.4 (Portinspection) / Blocklists

"Jaymon" wrote:

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

Are the lost settings occurring only in your security software apps or in XP's
associated systems settings or both? What's the make/model of your computer
and how old is it?

Try it free for 30 days, good reviews, I just downloaded it now...
http://www.glarysoft.com/registry-repair/

RSVP
j;-)

"Jaymon" wrote:

No, and maybe yes in a good way. It can be set back to normal boot up later,
basically said it will allow you to trouble shoot if a clean boot indeed
solves the problem your having. It is a selective startup explained step by
step see link below:


http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...&osv=&osv_lvl=

Be cool
J;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Isn't that the procedure that reverts to the settings of the first succesful
launch after installing XP? Wouldn't I loose all the settings of all the
programs added since then?

"Jaymon" wrote:

Ok, I don't want you to shoot a fly with a shotgun either thats why I need
info, the more the better. Anyway, did you try a clean boot by using msconfig?



"rzr" wrote:

Security center, green lights across the board. Only one firewall running.
As to sfc, I run LANguard S.I.M. nightly. Aren't there any good registry
health or general system health checkers out there? I don't mean registry
cleaners or system optimizers, but some soft that just checks if everything
is as it should be.

As to SS&D and ZA(P) I just corrected their settings the hard way, by
replacing the setting files they start up with. Basically by just shutting
down the programs -before- system shut down. After that, I haven't had the
same problems with them. Although they still don't safe their latest settings
correctly on shut down, at least they're more up to date now.
This proves the point the programs aren't malfunctioning, but the shut down
goes wrong in some way. -Reinstalling- is a way around it, but that's like
tearing down and rebuilding a whole city because the sewer system in a
cityblock is clogged.
It'll get rid of the problem, but, well, it isn't satisfactory. I want to
-know- what's causing the problem and fix it.

As to security overkill, that's not an issue. Most is on demand, only a
handfull run continuously: Firewall, Blocklist, AV, Regchecker. One of each.
There is an automated system files integrity check (like sfc) which runs
nightly, as well as a Dshield report which reports all IPs that have attacked
or hassled my IP in the last 24 hours. Hardly overkill.

Any ideas where to go from here?

"Jaymon" wrote:

Ok, you may have too much protection that is in conflict with the OS or each
of the programs themselves.

Sometimes there are conflicts between AV programs and or firewall programs
as well as spyware removal programs.
It appears to me (it's free country), that you may be having a symptom of a
conflict, that is over protecting system changes, of any kind going on here?

I could be wrong too, but let me ask you this.. In the security center, this
is in control panel, see if the firewall is on, click it to reveal the name,
is there more than one? do the same with virus protection. There should be
only one firewall active on your computer the windows sp2 firewall or another
of your choice but not both or several. The same is true for AV programs that
are equipped with an auto protect mode one of those types of AV programs is
all you need. And set the spyware scanners to manual scan or not, not forever
just to see if it might be part of the problem if not, turn em back to auto
scan.

Now, If you see only one firewall program and AV program in security center
leave those and remove the rest or not it's your call..

If the problem is in the registry, well, removing unnecessary programs might
help here too, just go to add or remove programs, not the registry itself.

OR, try this go to the cmd prompt/dos window and at the prompt type sfc then
/scannow, if prompted, insert the XP setup disk and sytem file checker will
fix corrupted or damaged system files.


Also, you might use a restore point if one exists to go back to a time when
all was well.

I hope all goes well

j:-)


"rzr" wrote:

I am -not- going to reinstall. All the different programs seems to be
suffering from a similar problem: Settings are lost. This is what I am
interested in. An article or procedure to track down problems whose symptoms
are an overall loss of prefferences after the restart of programs.

Yes, I do have good protection against spyware, virii, worms, trojans, etc,
etc, etc.
I do know what I'm doing where basic security is concerned. I do not know
what I am doing, when it comes to windows subsystems. And I am asking for
help.

How do I establish the root cause of a general loss of prefferences?

XP.HomeSP2
Autoupdate
Virus: Kaspersky / AVG - Clean
Spywa Ad-Aware / Spyware Doctor / Spybot S&D - Clean
Firewall: ZA(P) / Spybot S&D 1.4 (Portinspection) / Blocklists

"Jaymon" wrote:

Well, You might try reinstalling those programs or updating them or maybe
your not in the administrators group that can make those kind of changes? You
might need to give more information about your system, did it just happen out
of the blue? for how long and after what? have you checked for viruses? Did
you upgrade XP onto an older computer? New computer?

Did you try my suggestion and set sbs&d to it's default mode, reboot and do
a manual scan just to see if it is still trying to remove that startup item,
whatever it is? The sbs&d program in advanced mode and fully automated,
depending on how it's set, can do harm to your system if your not sure what
you are doing, that is part of the warning pop up window, that asks and I'm
quoting "Do you really want to switch to advanced mode?"

I hope all goes well.
j;-)

"rzr" wrote:

Thanks Jaymon. I'm actually running the latest SS&D and it's fine. SS&D isn't
the problem. Something goes wrong with settings of a number of different
programs after reboot. They somehow loose the last changes. Who knows? Maybe
an MVP, but this topic doesn't seem to interest them.

Thanks for the security tips, anyway

"Jaymon" wrote:

These will work, sorry...
Oh, and sbs&d 1.4 is now avalible.

http://www.lavasoft.de/ad-aware/pers.../upgrade.shtml
http://www.spybot.info/en/download/index.html
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx

hope this helps
j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line #54 - Save Settings on Exit - Don't Save Settings


j

"rzr" wrote:

After booting, some programs do not restore to their last settings. In the
case of my firewall, this is a pretty serious matter; It keeps starting up
with old settings.This doesn't only happen with the firewall software; Every
startup Spybot S&D keeps saying it has allowed the removal of startup item;
But this item has been removed a week ago! But SS&D appears to keep screening
against old data. Other programs, like office have the same sort of trouble.
When restarting after a boot, customized setting dissapear.

Something is wrong, and I'm not sure where to look for it. Maybe something
with the shutdown sequence, or the registry (or other some other settings
file) is (partially) corrupted. I just don't know!

I'm not sure how to proceed.
Any help to fix this would be appreciated.