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Old April 24th 17, 01:06 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Updating WinXP Home Edition SP2 to SP3 via WSUS

Hi,

Microsoft no longer provides WinXP support, except for Activation (after
a new WinXP installation).

I have WinXP Home Edition SP2. I recently heard of "WSUS" that allows
you to update to the latest update that was developed for a particular OS,
etc.

Has anyone used the WSUS system to update WinXP to SP3?

Thank You in advance, John


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Old April 24th 17, 05:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Updating WinXP Home Edition SP2 to SP3 via WSUS

On 4/24/2017 5:06 AM, wrote:
Hi,

Microsoft no longer provides WinXP support, except for Activation (after
a new WinXP installation).

I have WinXP Home Edition SP2. I recently heard of "WSUS" that allows
you to update to the latest update that was developed for a particular OS,
etc.

Has anyone used the WSUS system to update WinXP to SP3?

Thank You in advance, John



You can download it

http://ccm.net/download/start/downlo...3-service-pack

One site claimed that WSUS doesn't work until after you install sp3.

I found a bunch of busted links and truncated files and quite a mess out
there on the web.
The link above worked and compared exactly to the file I downloaded
from MS a long time ago.

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Old April 24th 17, 06:07 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Updating WinXP Home Edition SP2 to SP3 via WSUS

On Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:47:15 -0700, mike wrote:

On 4/24/2017 5:06 AM, wrote:
Hi,

Microsoft no longer provides WinXP support, except for Activation (after
a new WinXP installation).

I have WinXP Home Edition SP2. I recently heard of "WSUS" that allows
you to update to the latest update that was developed for a particular OS,
etc.

Has anyone used the WSUS system to update WinXP to SP3?

Thank You in advance, John



You can download it

http://ccm.net/download/start/downlo...3-service-pack

One site claimed that WSUS doesn't work until after you install sp3.

I found a bunch of busted links and truncated files and quite a mess out
there on the web.
The link above worked and compared exactly to the file I downloaded
from MS a long time ago.


I just did a scratch install of XP pro and none of the microsoft links
worked until I loaded SP3. Then I got the whole suite of updates.

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Old April 24th 17, 09:05 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Updating WinXP Home Edition SP2 to SP3 via WSUS

wrote:

Microsoft no longer provides WinXP support, except for Activation
(after a new WinXP installation). I have WinXP Home Edition SP2. I
recently heard of "WSUS" that allows you to update to the latest
update that was developed for a particular OS, etc. Has anyone used
the WSUS system to update WinXP to SP3?


If Microsoft isn't offering updates for Windows XP using the Windows
Update client from their Windows Update server then WSUSoffline can't
get what Microsoft isn't offering. How is WSUSoffline going to get the
updates if you cannot when using the WU client? That's why you have to
use WSUSoffline to build an update repository while you have the product
and while Microsoft still offers updates for it. Then you keep that
repository around long after Microsoft stops offering updates for a
product. If you lose or delete your old update repository, and after
Microsoft stops providing updates, you'll have to get an update
repository from elsewhere (if you trust that non-Microsoft source).

WSUSoffline is an end client (just like the Windows Update client in
Windows) that connects to Microsoft's WSUS server, retrieves a manifest
file, and then uses the entries in that file to download the updates
from Microsoft's WSUS server. WSUSoffline only retrieves what Microsoft
puts in their manifest file. Not all updates available to a product are
listed in the manifest; using WSUSoffline will not bring you to the same
state as using the WU client. After using WSUSoffline, there will still
be other updates to apply using the WU client. If there is no manifest
file for a product, there are no updates available via that scheme. The
WU client retrieves and then applies the update(s). The WSUSoffline
client retrieves the update(s). Both connect to Microsoft's WSUS
server. The WU client uses additional logic to determine deprecation,
supercedes, and dependence along with using a software inventory to
determine which updates to retrieve. WSUSoffline can only use the
deprecations and supercedes listed in the manifest.

In the latest version of WSUSoffline, Windows XP is not offered as a
choice of what updates to download from Microsoft's WSUS server. See
the pics at:

http://www.wsusoffline.net/docs/

The Windows tab shows what versions it will download. That page does
not show the products listed under the Legacy tab. The legacy
(discontinued) products listed there a Windows Vista, Windows Server
2008, and Office 2007.

Because WSUSoffline moves forward in what it will retrieve to create a
repository of updates, an older version of WSUSoffline may try to get
Windows XP. That's why WSUSoffline users will have multiple versions of
that program so they can retrieve updates and generate a repository for
the old products. However, if you cannot get updates via the WU client
from Microsoft's WSUS server then WSUSoffline also cannot get updates.

http://download.wsusoffline.net/

Notice the release notes for 10.9.2, the latest version, state that this
will be the last version of WSUSoffline to support Windows Vista. That
page does not have the release notes for every version of WSUSoffline.
You have to keep walking back through prior versions of WSUSoffline to
find one that last supported Windows XP. Support for Windows XP ended
back on April 8, 2014. Back then WSUSoffline was at major version 9.
So I downloaded the latest version 9 (9.8) dated Aug 7, 2015 to see if
it still supported Windows XP. Nope, XP wasn't in WSUSoffline 9.8.
WSUSoffline 9.2 dated Apr 14, 2014 still had Windows XP listed. So some
version of WSUSoffline after 9.2 dropped Windows XP. I would suggest
using the latest version of WSUSoffline that still supports Windows XP.
I'll let you do all the other downloads of WSUSoffline, extract into
their own folders, run updategenerator.exe, to find out which was the
last one that listed Windows XP.

Have you tried connecting your WU client to check for Windows XP updates
to see if SP3 is offered (or if any XP updates are offered)?

There are places where you can get Service Pack 3 for Windows XP other
than from Microsoft. For example:

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Others/...s-XP-SP3.shtml

First apply SP3. Then download a version of WSUSoffline and extract it
to a folder (it comes as a .zip file). No installation needed. Just
run its updategenerator.exe program. It will retrieve what updates it
can find on Microsoft's WSUS server and stores them under that same
folder.

https://malwaretips.com/threads/tuto...-update.57320/

The article does not mention the option to duplicate the downloaded
updates into ISO files. I find that handy to burn the ISO images onto
optical discs so I have them available separately for each product and
also off my HDD so I still have the updates in case the HDD dies.
However, again, WSUSoffline only retrieves the updates listed in
Microsoft's manifest for a product and that file does NOT list every
update available for a product. Service packs, security updates, and
libraries are the typical contents of a manifest.
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Old April 24th 17, 09:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Updating WinXP Home Edition SP2 to SP3 via WSUS

wrote:
Hi,

Microsoft no longer provides WinXP support, except for Activation (after
a new WinXP installation).

I have WinXP Home Edition SP2. I recently heard of "WSUS" that allows
you to update to the latest update that was developed for a particular OS,
etc.

Has anyone used the WSUS system to update WinXP to SP3?

Thank You in advance, John



All the versions are still around.

Just like Microsoft puts OSes "out of support", so too do the
staff at WSUSOffline, pull support for the older OSes from
the package.

It means you have to download the "right" package for WinXP.
Check all the tabs, look in any "Legacy" section, to see
if what you want is there.

http://download.wsusoffline.net/

"05.05.2014 Version 9.2.1 (Hashes, AV check)"

Using archive.org, I can prove that's the right version to use.

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/201...usoffline.net/

"Modifications in version 9.2.1

NOTE: This version will be the very very last one
supporting Windows XP and Office 2003
"

Run the tool from a working system first. And be prepared
for problems/issues. I'm not going to attempt to guess
what happens next.

Rest assured, the files are still on the Microsoft server
for download. You could even, if you wanted, tick the
"Service Pack" boxes in the WSUSOffline interface, and
have those downloaded too. My installer CD is already SP3,
so I don't have to worry about this.

Stuff can break at any point. That's about all I can
offer as a form of "general encouragement" :-)

WSUSOffline runs in two steps:

1) On the technician machine, you "make" an archive.
Sometimes this breaks, when it attempts to use Windows Update
to check stuff. Read the log when this happens, and
go from there.

2) On the client machine, you can just bring over a USB
stick with the entire directory you used in step (1).
You don't have to burn DVDs or anything. I'm basically
pretty happy, with a collection folder being generated
on the Technician machine. There is a separate executable
in the folder structure, that does the client
installation.

In terms of activation, WinXP seems to like to have IE8
installed, in order to make a few things work. After the OS
is running and activated, you can go to Add/Remove and
remove IE8 and go back to IE6 if you want. There are also
tick boxes in WSUSOffline, for IE7 and IE8 support.

So you're very much in control. But, could be in for
a rough ride. There are too many different symptoms,
for me to write a good description of what to expect.
And yes, "spinning in circles" during Step 1, the
collection step, is all too common. It's the same
wuauserv bug as regular Windows Update gets.

I think my last review of WU behavior, it seemed to be
behaving itself. I managed to update a WinXPMode VM
on Win7 Pro successfully, without too much hair loss.
And that was only a few days ago. Which reminds me,
I have to restore my Win7Pro from backup and blow
all that crap away again :-)

Paul
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Old April 27th 17, 02:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mike
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Default Updating WinXP Home Edition SP2 to SP3 via WSUS

I have a laptop that installed SP3 but the desktop never did. I downloaded the SP3 from the com.net site but it didn't install after downloading nor did it install after rebooting. How can I convince it to install?

Thanks.
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Old April 27th 17, 02:44 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Default Updating WinXP Home Edition SP2 to SP3 via WSUS

On 27/04/2017 02:37, Mike wrote:
I have a laptop that installed SP3 but the desktop never did. I downloaded the SP3 from the com.net site but it didn't install after downloading nor did it install after rebooting. How can I convince it to install?

Thanks.


After downloading the big fat file, did you double click on it to begin
the process of installation? If you did this then do you get any error
messages? Please post a screenshot of these error messages.

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