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  #61  
Old November 6th 08, 01:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
James Egan
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On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:37:02 -0800, Jason Thomas
wrote:

ok here is another thing that just happened last night.

I was taking all of the advice in this thread into consideration, and was
checking everything and going back to my starting point. I opened network
connections, chose wireless network connections (my laptops connection to the
router) and then clicked properties. i think scrolled down to the bottom
choice, i forget the name right now, as i am not on my computer it was
something like icmp icl or something like that, but then i clicked the
advanced tab in it and then clicked settings on the first option, which
brought me to an allow these networks to be assigned ip addresses, and my
xbox wasnt checked, so i checked it. i tested my connection to xbox live and
it worked, i was playing for a while and then it stopped again, telling me
the dns couldnt resolve my IP address. so i tried everything over and
everything was the same as it was when it was working. i tried repairing
connection, refreshing IP's, and resetting connection, and then the IP


Try a google search for "double natting" if you want to read up on
your problem. It can be made to work the way you are attempting to do
it but it is both problematic and inefficient.

A computer will normally get its DNS nameserver information as part of
the dhcp protocol at the same time as it gets its ip address from the
router.

If you uninstall ics from the laptop and bridge the wired and wireless
interfaces (as stated previously) then both the laptop and xbox can
get their ip addresses and nameserver information from the router and
everything can work simply. Problem solved.

If, however, you insist on using ics on the laptop, then it cannot get
an ip address and nameserver information assigned by the router so you
must configure everything on the laptop manually. It will have a
static ip address of 192.168.0.1 which you can't change and you need
to enter your isp's nameserver ip addresses into the relevant boxes in
the tcp/ip properties. If you don't know the nameserver addresses then
try it with 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 which are opendns
servers.

With ics you also have the original problem of networking the laptop
with your router whose default is on a different subnet and so has to
be changed to something on the subnet 192.168.0.0/24 without clashing
with other equipment on the network. Review MVP Malke's instructions
earlier in the thread on how to do that.

Confirm test failed again. I checked my settings and they were the same as
before, so far that i can tell. but now, my XBOX live doesnt work, and when
i turn the XBOX on and it is connected to the computer, my internet doesnt
work, and when i turn off the XBOX, my internet works. i dont get that.


That's likely because the gateway information is screwed up and when
the xbox is on, the wired adaptor is active and the laptop will try
and use it in preference to the wireless to get out to the Internet.
When the xbox is off the wired network adaptor becomes effectively
unplugged/disabled so the laptop uses the wireless adaptor to get out
to the Internet like it's supposed to.

You really are making a rod for your own back persisting with this ics
nonsense. The reason for all the posts about static ip addresses are
because you weren't specific enough in the first instance about your
network and the mvp's and others were relying on clairvoyance and
guesswork for most of the assistance.

You will be advised to set up a wired/wireless bridge and ditch ics.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb457038.aspx


Jim.

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Old November 6th 08, 11:01 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Jason Thomas[_2_]
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The reason why i keep my sharing connection is because it worked fine before
and it is the most convenient way for me to connect to the internet on my
xbox. My xbox live worked perfectly without any problems until i put service
pack three in my laptop, and now it has messed up my xbox. Last night i
found an error in my connection, that the xbox made a change to the computer
allowing DNS to confirm a third party. I checked the box, and then my XBOX
Live worked fine, i was playing and then i went to eat dinner so i turned my
XBOX off. when i got back and turned it on, my XBOX Live didnt work again,
but the settings were the same (i know this because i have everysetting
written down for everything i can access in network connections. I am mad
because no one can tell me the problem, just ways to fix it. I want to know
the problem, then know how to fix it, because if i know the problem, i might
be able to fix it myself. Again, the problem started when i updated my
Microsoft XP Pro edition to Service Pack 3, and then my Xbox 360 didn't work
as soon as i changed it. When i get my Xbox Live to work after configuring
for hours every night, it fails again if i turn the Xbox off. This should
not be happening, obviously. Why does it happen, and if no one here knows
the problem, please list a name and phone number, email address, or website
with real people who know how to fix the problem, as i am not changing my
connection to direct connection, bridging, or anything else other than
Internet Connection Sharing.

"James Egan" wrote:


On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 15:37:02 -0800, Jason Thomas
wrote:

ok here is another thing that just happened last night.

I was taking all of the advice in this thread into consideration, and was
checking everything and going back to my starting point. I opened network
connections, chose wireless network connections (my laptops connection to the
router) and then clicked properties. i think scrolled down to the bottom
choice, i forget the name right now, as i am not on my computer it was
something like icmp icl or something like that, but then i clicked the
advanced tab in it and then clicked settings on the first option, which
brought me to an allow these networks to be assigned ip addresses, and my
xbox wasnt checked, so i checked it. i tested my connection to xbox live and
it worked, i was playing for a while and then it stopped again, telling me
the dns couldnt resolve my IP address. so i tried everything over and
everything was the same as it was when it was working. i tried repairing
connection, refreshing IP's, and resetting connection, and then the IP


Try a google search for "double natting" if you want to read up on
your problem. It can be made to work the way you are attempting to do
it but it is both problematic and inefficient.

A computer will normally get its DNS nameserver information as part of
the dhcp protocol at the same time as it gets its ip address from the
router.

If you uninstall ics from the laptop and bridge the wired and wireless
interfaces (as stated previously) then both the laptop and xbox can
get their ip addresses and nameserver information from the router and
everything can work simply. Problem solved.

If, however, you insist on using ics on the laptop, then it cannot get
an ip address and nameserver information assigned by the router so you
must configure everything on the laptop manually. It will have a
static ip address of 192.168.0.1 which you can't change and you need
to enter your isp's nameserver ip addresses into the relevant boxes in
the tcp/ip properties. If you don't know the nameserver addresses then
try it with 208.67.222.222 and 208.67.220.220 which are opendns
servers.

With ics you also have the original problem of networking the laptop
with your router whose default is on a different subnet and so has to
be changed to something on the subnet 192.168.0.0/24 without clashing
with other equipment on the network. Review MVP Malke's instructions
earlier in the thread on how to do that.

Confirm test failed again. I checked my settings and they were the same as
before, so far that i can tell. but now, my XBOX live doesnt work, and when
i turn the XBOX on and it is connected to the computer, my internet doesnt
work, and when i turn off the XBOX, my internet works. i dont get that.


That's likely because the gateway information is screwed up and when
the xbox is on, the wired adaptor is active and the laptop will try
and use it in preference to the wireless to get out to the Internet.
When the xbox is off the wired network adaptor becomes effectively
unplugged/disabled so the laptop uses the wireless adaptor to get out
to the Internet like it's supposed to.

You really are making a rod for your own back persisting with this ics
nonsense. The reason for all the posts about static ip addresses are
because you weren't specific enough in the first instance about your
network and the mvp's and others were relying on clairvoyance and
guesswork for most of the assistance.

You will be advised to set up a wired/wireless bridge and ditch ics.
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb457038.aspx


Jim.


  #63  
Old November 7th 08, 11:43 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
James Egan
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:01:02 -0800, Jason Thomas
wrote:

Why does it happen, and if no one here knows
the problem, please list a name and phone number, email address, or website
with real people who know how to fix the problem, as i am not changing my
connection to direct connection, bridging, or anything else other than
Internet Connection Sharing.


It has already been explained several times how your setup is NOT the
most convenient way to connect. Did you take anything in at all?

By the way, real people with real names and phone numbers will want
real cash for telling you what you already know. That the main problem
is your own stupidity.


Jim.

  #64  
Old November 7th 08, 06:47 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
Jason Thomas[_2_]
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Default fixing IP Address

yes my setup may not be the most convienent, but it is the cheapest. And
even with all of the posting people have done i finally fixed the problem on
my own. All of you were trying to change network numbers and all of that
stuff. All i really had to do was open DNS which was for somereason closed
by SP3 and now my Xbox 360 works fine, no connection change at all. I find
it pretty amazing that a 14 year old can figure a problem like this out but
you people cant. now im not trying to be a negative person, but i would
think you guys could have told me the basic problems first rather than the
complex network configuring and changing specs. its like algebra word
problems, you try to find the most complex answer when the answer is the most
basic thing that you completely overlook. Now Ian, thankyou for your trying
to help. It did give me some ideas on how to change my settings, and it
brought me to the spot where i changed the DNS to open so it would work. My
connection works perfectly again.

"James Egan" wrote:


On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 14:01:02 -0800, Jason Thomas
wrote:

Why does it happen, and if no one here knows
the problem, please list a name and phone number, email address, or website
with real people who know how to fix the problem, as i am not changing my
connection to direct connection, bridging, or anything else other than
Internet Connection Sharing.


It has already been explained several times how your setup is NOT the
most convenient way to connect. Did you take anything in at all?

By the way, real people with real names and phone numbers will want
real cash for telling you what you already know. That the main problem
is your own stupidity.


Jim.


  #65  
Old November 8th 08, 11:47 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
James Egan
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Posts: 257
Default fixing IP Address


On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 09:47:01 -0800, Jason Thomas
wrote:

yes my setup may not be the most convienent, but it is the cheapest. And


What's more expensive about selecting two network interfaces with your
mouse and selecting bridge these connections?


even with all of the posting people have done i finally fixed the problem on
my own.


Yeah right! Wonders never cease.


Jim.

 




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