Please stop calling them apps!

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".

On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:06:47 +0100, Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my
computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds like
a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer "program".

What kind of proggies do you write?

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On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:06:47 +0100, Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".

I also laugh at "execute" the program. It sounds like you want it killed. And an "executive" in a business should be the one that chops off people's heads when they misbehave.

In article , vallor
wrote:

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my
computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds like
a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer "program".

What kind of proggies do you write?

i run proggies on my lappie.

In article , Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular.

the term application became popular in the 80s with the rise of
personal computers, but since computers weren't anywhere near as
widespread as they are now, it wasn't really in common use outside of
techies.

It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".

the rest of the world prefers app.

a program is what's shown on tv, or what's handed out at the theatre.

languages evolve.

On 2019-05-15, Apd wrote:
When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".

Also the proper name for the field is is EDP ("Electronic Data Processing")
*not* this "IT" thing that came out of left field.

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In article , Roger Blake
wrote:

Also the proper name for the field is is EDP ("Electronic Data Processing")

not anymore, it isn't.

*not* this "IT" thing that came out of left field.

it doesn't matter where it came from. they're different.

On 5/15/2019 7:28 PM, vallor wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:06:47 +0100, Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my
computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds like
a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer "program".

What kind of proggies do you write?

Damn, sounds like some kind of filled Polish dumpling. :-)

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Ron C
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On 5/15/2019 7:06 PM, Apd wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".


Ah well the folks that wrote programs were programmers,
folks that make apps are coders. [ I have no idea why they're
not called appers. ]

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Ron C
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On 2019-05-16, nospam wrote:
not anymore, it isn't.

Sez you. I don't change with the times and still consider EDP
to be the proper term.

it doesn't matter where it came from. they're different.

About as different as an undertaker versus a mortician.

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In article , Ron C
wrote:

Ah well the folks that wrote programs were programmers,
folks that make apps are coders. [ I have no idea why they're
not called appers. ]

no. folks who write apps, be it mobile, desktop, web or embedded, are
software developers, and if it's only a couple of people (usually one
but not always), an indie developer.

the term coder generally refers to the lower end of the scale, who do
little to no design of the final product.

In article , Roger Blake
wrote:

not anymore, it isn't.

Sez you.

sez the industry.

I don't change with the times and still consider EDP
to be the proper term.

then you'd be wrong.

today's employees aren't processing data. they're *creating* all kinds
of new data.

it doesn't matter where it came from. they're different.

About as different as an undertaker versus a mortician.

no.

On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:30:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:06:47 +0100, Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".

I also laugh at "execute" the program. It sounds like you want it killed. And an "executive" in a business should be the one that chops off people's heads when they misbehave.

"executing" a program dates back to before you were born and has a
very good reason for it's usage. In those early days one loaded a
program into the computer and it sat there, fat and happy, doing
absolutely nothing. Then when you had the courage to try it, you
issued the command "execute", whereupon it leaped into life (or death)
and did whatever you had actually asked it to do (not necassarily what
you had though you had asked it to do).

The term has a naval background. In the days of ail the officer in
charge of the deck would issue a command e.g. 'Prepare to luff", where
upon members of the crew would leap to various ropes, lines, sheets
and haliards, getting ready to do whatever had to be done. At the
appropriate moment (maybe in the midst of a close tacking duel) the
officer would issue the command 'Execute!' whereupon sheaves would
whir, ropes would run, and yards and booms would swing round to their
new position.

If you go to the New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary you will find
the word 'execute' has various threads of meaning all dataing from
Middle English and having something to do with the performance of
something or other.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

FWIW (to my fellow semanticists)... This silly poster from Apple has
been trolling the Windows 10 group for many months...

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In article qbi64r$9ga$1 gioia.aioe.org, Apd not all.invalid wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular.

the term application became popular in the 80s with the rise of
personal computers, but since computers weren't anywhere near as
widespread as they are now, it wasn't really in common use outside of
techies.

It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".

the rest of the world prefers app.

a program is what's shown on tv, or what's handed out at the theatre.

languages evolve.