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Old May 16th 19, 08:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage,free.spam
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If you are a sick **** from Canada, you can take it to your courts...

https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/01...rans-hormones/

"On Wednesday, the Supreme Court of British Columbia, Canada ordered
that a 14-year-old girl receive testosterone injections without
parental consent. THE COURT also DECLARED THAT IF EITHER OF HER
PARENTS referred to her using female pronouns or ADDRESSED HER BY
HER BIRTH NAME, THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED GUILTY OF FAMILY VIOLENCE."

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I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?


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Old May 16th 19, 11:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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"vallor" wrote:
On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:06:47 +0100, Apd wrote:
When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds like
a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer "program".


What kind of proggies do you write?


In the early days I wrote software for an oil exploration company,
mainly to do with signal processing. Later I was involved with
scientific research, so pretty much anything a particular project
required. Now I'm retired and don't write much apart from the
occasional utility I might need.



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Old May 16th 19, 11:36 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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"nospam" wrote:
the rest of the world prefers app.


Only on phones and in the Win 10 world.

a program is what's shown on tv, or what's handed out at the theatre.


That's a programme.



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Old May 16th 19, 11:38 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:14:30 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?


Prog could work.
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Old May 16th 19, 01:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:33:25 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?


When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular.


the term application became popular in the 80s with the rise of
personal computers, but since computers weren't anywhere near as
widespread as they are now, it wasn't really in common use outside of
techies.


Indeed even in MSDOS days we had folders, typically: UTILS, TOOLS,
APPS, PROGRAMS and DATA

APPS was where we put what we wrote.


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Old May 16th 19, 01:45 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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On 16/05/2019 14.17, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:33:25 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular.


the term application became popular in the 80s with the rise of
personal computers, but since computers weren't anywhere near as
widespread as they are now, it wasn't really in common use outside of
techies.


Indeed even in MSDOS days we had folders, typically: UTILS, TOOLS,
APPS, PROGRAMS and DATA

APPS was where we put what we wrote.


No, we had directories, typically one per suite or big program. Like one
for MsDOS, another for wordperfect, another for pctools, etc.

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  #22  
Old May 16th 19, 01:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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On 5/16/2019 8:45 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 16/05/2019 14.17, AnthonyL wrote:
On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:33:25 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular.

the term application became popular in the 80s with the rise of
personal computers, but since computers weren't anywhere near as
widespread as they are now, it wasn't really in common use outside of
techies.


Indeed even in MSDOS days we had folders, typically: UTILS, TOOLS,
APPS, PROGRAMS and DATA

APPS was where we put what we wrote.


No, we had directories, typically one per suite or big program. Like one
for MsDOS, another for wordperfect, another for pctools, etc.

I believe that is where the command DIR came from which list the files
in the Directory. MS changed to directories to folders for no apparent
reason

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Old May 16th 19, 02:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:14:30 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?



We used to call those who wrote programs "programmers." What do we
call those who write apps, "applicators?"

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Old May 16th 19, 03:17 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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Apd wrote:
"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?


When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".


In my day there were (at least) two varieties of program: systems
programs such as compilers and what-have-you, and applications programs
such as accounting software.

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Old May 16th 19, 03:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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In article , Apd wrote:

the rest of the world prefers app.


Only on phones and in the Win 10 world.


false. app is short for application, a term that refers to end user
software which has been in use for more than 30 years.

a program is what's shown on tv, or what's handed out at the theatre.


That's a programme.


no
  #26  
Old May 16th 19, 03:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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On Thu, 16 May 2019 07:01:11 +0100, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:30:35 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Thu, 16 May 2019 00:06:47 +0100, Apd wrote:

"Commander Kinsey" wrote:
I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?

When I started programming in the 70s we wrote computer programs. I
don't remember when or why "application" became popular. It sounds
like a poultice you apply to an infected wound. So, yes, I prefer
"program".


I also laugh at "execute" the program. It sounds like you want it killed. And an "executive" in a business should be the one that chops off people's heads when they misbehave.


"executing" a program dates back to before you were born and has a
very good reason for it's usage. In those early days one loaded a
program into the computer and it sat there, fat and happy, doing
absolutely nothing. Then when you had the courage to try it, you
issued the command "execute", whereupon it leaped into life (or death)
and did whatever you had actually asked it to do (not necassarily what
you had though you had asked it to do).

The term has a naval background. In the days of ail the officer in
charge of the deck would issue a command e.g. 'Prepare to luff", where
upon members of the crew would leap to various ropes, lines, sheets
and haliards, getting ready to do whatever had to be done. At the
appropriate moment (maybe in the midst of a close tacking duel) the
officer would issue the command 'Execute!' whereupon sheaves would
whir, ropes would run, and yards and booms would swing round to their
new position.

If you go to the New Shorter Oxford English Dictionary you will find
the word 'execute' has various threads of meaning all dataing from
Middle English and having something to do with the performance of
something or other.


Well it's not used that way now. If Mr Smith is executed, he's gone to the electric chair.
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Old May 16th 19, 03:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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In article , Peter Percival
wrote:


In my day there were (at least) two varieties of program: systems
programs such as compilers and what-have-you, and applications programs
such as accounting software.


yep.
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Old May 16th 19, 03:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage,free.spam
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On Thu, 16 May 2019 08:55:36 +0100, John Doe wrote:

If you are a sick **** from Canada, you can take it to your courts...

https://thefederalist.com/2019/03/01...rans-hormones/

"On Wednesday, the Supreme Court of British Columbia, Canada ordered
that a 14-year-old girl receive testosterone injections without
parental consent. THE COURT also DECLARED THAT IF EITHER OF HER
PARENTS referred to her using female pronouns or ADDRESSED HER BY
HER BIRTH NAME, THEY WOULD BE CONSIDERED GUILTY OF FAMILY VIOLENCE."

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?


Did you write something? I'm not scrolling to the top to check, respond underneath like an adult.
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Old May 16th 19, 03:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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On Thu, 16 May 2019 11:38:22 +0100, Lucifer wrote:

On Wed, 15 May 2019 20:14:30 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

I don't go into my gar to mow the lawn, so why would I use an app on
my computer? Why are people too ****ing lazy to use the whole word
anymore? If "application" is too difficult, what about "program"?


Prog could work.


Sounds like ****ty music.
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Old May 16th 19, 03:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.english.usage
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Peter Percival:

In my day there were (at least) two varieties of
program: systems programs such as compilers and
what-have-you, and applications programs such as
accounting software.


Not `applicaton programs' (with a singular adjec-
tive)?

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