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  #31  
Old September 19th 04, 01:13 AM
Jerry McBride
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Johnny Lingo wrote:

It must be that odd P4 processor that is only a 266mhz


"Nattyb" wrote in message
...
I've been working with Dos/Windows since 1986 and have
never run into what's going on now on my system. I've got
a new 266mhz P4 with 2 gig of ram, 160 mb of Raid one
drives, and Xp Pro Sp1. It runs great. I use Opera,
Norton Firewall and Norton AntiVirus running with Apache
and PHP 4 and MySQL. I do Web developemnt, 3D Studio Max
6 Rendering and AutoCAD Developemnt.

I followed the setup for Service Pack 2 and the first
time everything quit working, literally. Windows Explorer
crashed every time I tried to run almost anything
including Control Panel, IE, open the Start menu
items....Etc. Finally got it to roll back and just to be
sure, I reinstalled it and got the exact same results
twice more. My whole system become totally unusable every
time I install SP2. Is this common, or am I overlooking
something? Anyone else run into this?

I thought if I waited a bit to install SP2 to hear if it
was stable I'd be ok, but obviously not. Anyone have any
answers or suggestions?

If not, then screw SP2, I must not need it if that's how
it works! Thanks in advance for any help.


So all those millions of old processors have to be upgraded? Wow, that's
going to cost millions. You sure SP2 is worth it?


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  #32  
Old September 19th 04, 01:13 AM
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PA Bear wrote:

In case you're wondering:

Your computer stops responding when you restart to complete the
installation of Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=885626

Download link for the Patch

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en

Now that's some serious help. Thank you.

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  #33  
Old September 19th 04, 01:14 AM
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grampa wrote:

This 70 year old has installed SP2 in three different
home built machines so far and they are all running fine.
pappy


-----Original Message-----
In case you're wondering:

Your computer stops responding when you restart to

complete the installation
of Windows XP Service Pack 2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=885626

Download link for the Patch
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=en
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Johnny Lingo wrote:
It must be that odd P4 processor that is only a 266mhz


"Nattyb" wrote in message
...
I've been working with Dos/Windows since 1986 and have
never run into what's going on now on my system. I've got
a new 266mhz P4 with 2 gig of ram, 160 mb of Raid one
drives, and Xp Pro Sp1. It runs great. I use Opera,
Norton Firewall and Norton AntiVirus running with Apache
and PHP 4 and MySQL. I do Web developemnt, 3D Studio Max
6 Rendering and AutoCAD Developemnt.

I followed the setup for Service Pack 2 and the first
time everything quit working, literally. Windows Explorer
crashed every time I tried to run almost anything
including Control Panel, IE, open the Start menu
items....Etc. Finally got it to roll back and just to be
sure, I reinstalled it and got the exact same results
twice more. My whole system become totally unusable every
time I install SP2. Is this common, or am I overlooking
something? Anyone else run into this?

I thought if I waited a bit to install SP2 to hear if it
was stable I'd be ok, but obviously not. Anyone have any
answers or suggestions?

If not, then screw SP2, I must not need it if that's how
it works! Thanks in advance for any help.


.


You sure?
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  #34  
Old September 19th 04, 01:14 AM
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PA Bear wrote:

RTFM:

Installing WinXP SP2
http://support.microsoft.com/default...psp2getinstall

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx

What to Know Before Downloading/Installing SP2
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~
New on the above page:

"3. Check your computer for spyware and other unwanted software
A variety of tools are available from other companies to detect and remove
unwanted software from your computer, including Lavasoft Ad-aware."

Mo

http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~
Installing SP2 Step-by-Step
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];xpsp2insthowto

Troubleshooting Your Installation
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;[ln];xpsp2insttshoot

WinXP SP2 FAQ: What to do after installing SP2
http://support.microsoft.com/default...xpsp2installed

Service Pack (any) Installation Checklist (MVP Jupiter Jones)
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

WinXP SP2-specific Page (MVP Jupiter Jones)
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm


Are these sent with SP2? If not, how would one find them if your computer is
belly up from installing SP2?


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Old September 19th 04, 01:15 AM
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wrote:

Thanks, but I've run Ad-Aware as well as chkdsk and
defrag prior to the install, as well as cleaning up files
and running System mechanic, reg clean. Still doesn't
work.
-----Original Message-----
RTFM:

Installing WinXP SP2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?
scid=fh;ln;xpsp2getinstall

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/sp2/preinstall.mspx

What to Know Before Downloading/Installing SP2

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/s...hattoknow.mspx
~~~~~~~~~~~~
New on the above page:

"3. Check your computer for spyware and other unwanted

software
A variety of tools are available from other companies to

detect and remove
unwanted software from your computer, including Lavasoft

Ad-aware."

Mo

http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm
~~~~~~~~~~~
Installing SP2 Step-by-Step
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;

[ln];xpsp2insthowto

Troubleshooting Your Installation
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=fh;

[ln];xpsp2insttshoot

WinXP SP2 FAQ: What to do after installing SP2
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?

scid=fh;ln;xpsp2installed

Service Pack (any) Installation Checklist (MVP

Jupiter Jones)
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm

WinXP SP2-specific Page (MVP Jupiter Jones)
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm
--
~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
MS MVP-Windows (IE/OE), AH-VSOP

Are You Ready for WinXP SP2?
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...rotect/default.

aspx

WinXP SP2 Release Notes
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-

us;835935

AumHa Forums
http://forum.aumha.org

Nattyb wrote:
I've been working with Dos/Windows since 1986 and have
never run into what's going on now on my system. I've

got
a new 266mhz P4 with 2 gig of ram, 160 mb of Raid one
drives, and Xp Pro Sp1. It runs great. I use Opera,
Norton Firewall and Norton AntiVirus running with

Apache
and PHP 4 and MySQL. I do Web developemnt, 3D Studio

Max
6 Rendering and AutoCAD Developemnt.

I followed the setup for Service Pack 2 and the first
time everything quit working, literally. Windows

Explorer
crashed every time I tried to run almost anything
including Control Panel, IE, open the Start menu
items....Etc. Finally got it to roll back and just to

be
sure, I reinstalled it and got the exact same results
twice more. My whole system become totally unusable

every
time I install SP2. Is this common, or am I overlooking
something? Anyone else run into this?

I thought if I waited a bit to install SP2 to hear if

it
was stable I'd be ok, but obviously not. Anyone have

any
answers or suggestions?

If not, then screw SP2, I must not need it if that's

how
it works! Thanks in advance for any help.


.


Yup. That sound familiar.... Same steps taken here.

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  #36  
Old September 19th 04, 01:16 AM
Jerry McBride
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PA Bear wrote:

That is patently *not* enough:

Dealing with Trojans & Hijackware

A. Trojans

1. Check in at Windows Update and install all critical updates & reboot.

2. Download and run Stinger (http://vil.nai.com/vil/stinger/); then...

3. Update your virus definitions, enable Show Hidden Files

(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...02092715262339)
and then run a full system scan in Safe Mode

(http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...01052409420406)
with nothing else running in background. Note the files identified and
removed then find the corresponding page for the file at your AV maker's
online support pages (e.g.,

http://securityresponse.symantec.com...favorites.html)
and follow *all* Removal steps, including editing the Registry if
directed.

WinXP Only (WinME similar): If this scan finds anything, create a new
Restore Point then:

Disk Cleanup More options Delete all but the most recent Restore
Point.

B. Hijackware

Help with Hijackware
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm
http://aumha.org/a/quickfix.htm
http://mvps.org/winhelp2002/unwanted.htm
http://inetexplorer.mvps.org/Darnit.htm

CoolWebSearch Chronicles
http://www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/cwschronicles.html

Run these tools in the following order with nothing else running in
background:

1. CWShredder v1.59.1 (no updates available currently; fix all found)

2. Ad-Aware SE (reconfigure per Post #2 in
http://aumha.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5877; fix all found)

3. Spybot (RTFM but generally fix everything in red)

Important: You must seek updates for Ad-Aware, Spybot, etc., before each
and
every use, even "right out of the box". But even they can't catch
everything, 24/7. When all else fails, HijackThis
(http://forum.aumha.org/downloads/hijackthis.zip) is the preferred tool to
use. It will help you to both identify and remove any hijackware/spyware.
**Post your files to http://forums.spywareinfo.com/ or
http://forum.aumha.org/viewforum.php?f=30 for expert analysis, not here.**

[Alternate download pages for many of the above tools may be found at
http://aumha.org/a/parasite.htm.]

So How Did I Get Infected Anyway?
http://boards.cexx.org/viewtopic.php?t=957


Are any of these tools available in official MS form? I didn't know that MS
relies so heavily on thrid party developers to keep their flagship OS out
of trouble,,,,
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  #37  
Old September 19th 04, 01:16 AM
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Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:

Research your hardware and software compatibility with SP-2.
See:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm

Follow the Service Pack Installation Checklist to install SP-2:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm


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  #38  
Old September 19th 04, 01:17 AM
Jerry McBride
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PA Bear wrote:

? SNAP!

Jupiter Jones [MVP] wrote:
Research your hardware and software compatibility with SP-2.
See:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/xpsp2.htm

Follow the Service Pack Installation Checklist to install SP-2:
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/spackins.htm


"Nattyb" wrote in message
...
I've been working with Dos/Windows since 1986 and have
never run into what's going on now on my system. I've got
a new 266mhz P4 with 2 gig of ram, 160 mb of Raid one
drives, and Xp Pro Sp1. It runs great. I use Opera,
Norton Firewall and Norton AntiVirus running with Apache
and PHP 4 and MySQL. I do Web developemnt, 3D Studio Max
6 Rendering and AutoCAD Developemnt.

I followed the setup for Service Pack 2 and the first
time everything quit working, literally. Windows Explorer
crashed every time I tried to run almost anything
including Control Panel, IE, open the Start menu
items....Etc. Finally got it to roll back and just to be
sure, I reinstalled it and got the exact same results
twice more. My whole system become totally unusable every
time I install SP2. Is this common, or am I overlooking
something? Anyone else run into this?

I thought if I waited a bit to install SP2 to hear if it
was stable I'd be ok, but obviously not. Anyone have any
answers or suggestions?

If not, then screw SP2, I must not need it if that's how
it works! Thanks in advance for any help.


Yup... bookmarked.

Thanks everyone that posted real help in this thread.

 




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