POP vs IMAP

For GMail Account and Hotmail Account

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

Beside the username and password what is the value of all the other
settings for POP and IMAP?

Someone post a nice succinct table ... please
I always have trouble figuring out how to do this.
Bad enough I have to remember the password.

GMail
IMAP Incoming Server, port, outgoing Server, port, etc, etc
POP Incoming Server, port, outgoing Server, port, etc,

Hotmail
IMAP Incoming Server, port, outgoing Server, port, etc
POP Incoming Server, port, outgoing Server, port, etc

Thank you.

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On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow you to
manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.) locally. Most
IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally for off-line reading
and archiving.

Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow you to
manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.) locally. Most
IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally for off-line reading
and archiving.

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g. PC
and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and deleting
that you carry out on one device are visible on the other(s). Using POP
with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 18:37:59 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g. PC
and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and deleting
that you carry out on one device are visible on the other(s). Using POP
with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

I use both POP on my smartphone and my computer, but my smartphone is
set up to leave messages on server unless I delete them. If needed, I
can use Portable Thunderbird.

--
s|b

s|b wrote on 4/25/2015 2:09 PM:
On Sat, 25 Apr 2015 18:37:59 +0100, Mike Barnes wrote:

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g. PC
and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and deleting
that you carry out on one device are visible on the other(s). Using POP
with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

I use both POP on my smartphone and my computer, but my smartphone is
set up to leave messages on server unless I delete them. If needed, I
can use Portable Thunderbird.

+1
I have about 5 vm's and a few PC's, phones, tablet. All pop leaving the mail on server and then my main laptop does the
download and delete. Laptop is the main record keeper.

On 25 Apr 2015, Mike Barnes wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

Nil wrote:

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow
you to manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.)
locally. Most IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally
for off-line reading and archiving.

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g.
PC and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and
deleting that you carry out on one device are visible on the
other(s). Using POP with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

I use a combination of both. I use IMAP to check email on my main
account from my several devices. Then, every day or two, I download it
all to my main computer using POP3, deleting it from the server at that
time.

I did all IMAP for a while, but I found that you're at the mercy of the
server for every little operation, every fetch and delete, and some
mail servers can be quite slow.

Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, Mike Barnes wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

Nil wrote:

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow
you to manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.)
locally. Most IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally
for off-line reading and archiving.

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g.
PC and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and
deleting that you carry out on one device are visible on the
other(s). Using POP with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

I use a combination of both. I use IMAP to check email on my main
account from my several devices. Then, every day or two, I download it
all to my main computer using POP3, deleting it from the server at that
time.

AAMOI do you also have an IMAP connection on your main computer, for
normal email reading etc? Otherwise you wouldn't be able to tell which
messages you'd already read on your other devices.

I did all IMAP for a while, but I found that you're at the mercy of the
server for every little operation, every fetch and delete, and some
mail servers can be quite slow.

I do all IMAP and haven't suffered from slowness. I guess it depends on
the server and on the software you use. I get the impression that
Thunderbird syncs between the server and local storage in the
background, so I don't have to wait, BICBW.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

On 25 Apr 2015, Mike Barnes wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

AAMOI do you also have an IMAP connection on your main computer,
for normal email reading etc? Otherwise you wouldn't be able to
tell which messages you'd already read on your other devices.

I just remember which ones I've read. Not a problem.

I do all IMAP and haven't suffered from slowness. I guess it
depends on the server and on the software you use. I get the
impression that Thunderbird syncs between the server and local
storage in the background, so I don't have to wait, BICBW.

One of the secondary mail accounts I use is Yahoo. Their IMAP
connection get VERY slow during peak hours. They're much quicker in the
middle of the night. Gmail has also seems lately to have been going
through slow periods not necessarily tied to time of day. Then, after a
few hours or days it speeds up again. My main email account at my ISP
is fairly peppy, maybe because they don't advertise that service and I
don't think it's widely used.

I would think that everyone would find IMAP to be at least a little
slower than POP3. As I understand it, you make an IMAP connection, and
it stays open for a short while, after which you have to be validated
again, which would necessarily take some time. So if you're reading and
deleting a lot of mail you would probably exceed that timeout period
often and have to be validated again pretty often. POP3 works in
batches and retrieving even many emails should happen during one
session.

Last time I looked, Verizon does not support IMAP and neither did Time
Warner. Those are my two choices for Internet service ('tho Vz is only
DSL - bah). Is anybody's experience with them different? If so, it might
be time to make a change.

Jason wrote:
Last time I looked, Verizon does not support IMAP and neither did Time
Warner. Those are my two choices for Internet service ('tho Vz is only
DSL - bah). Is anybody's experience with them different? If so, it might
be time to make a change.


Verizon, some time ago, said this:
qp
We have strategically chosen POP3 Email architecture to minimize storage
costs. Please know that each master email account has 2GB of storage and
if the user does not POP their email, the email is accessible from
anywhere with internet access via myverizon.com.
/qp

i.e. use POP3 or use the web UI


TimeWarner on the other hand, unless the email is serviced through
another TW contractor, appears to support both POP3 and IMAP.

http://www.timewarnercable.com/en/su...addresses.html

At one time, I had TimeWarner which used Roadrunner - both POP3 and IMAP
were available.

I switched cable providers and the new cable company service uses
Roadrunner and Earthlink. Both provide POP3. Neither provide IMAP but
exceptions exist - if the prior cable was TW using RoadRunner, the TW
available IMAP settings are grandfathered (though rare) as long as the
TW email address was ported to the new service (i.e. a cable co change
but retention of the TW email account).


--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 22:40:49 -0400, Jason wrote:

Last time I looked, Verizon does not support IMAP and neither did Time
Warner. Those are my two choices for Internet service ('tho Vz is only
DSL - bah). Is anybody's experience with them different? If so, it might
be time to make a change.

I never use the email service provided by an ISP because it ties me to that
ISP. I can't change ISP's without also changing my email address. So
personally, I would never base an ISP decision on the availability of their
email service.

--

Char Jackson

On 4/25/2015 1:37 PM, Mike Barnes wrote:
Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer. It can be jiggered into leaving mail on the server, but
that's not what the original intent was.

IMAP protocol is designed to store email on the server and allow you to
manage (view, reply, forward, mark for deletion, etc.) locally. Most
IMAP clients will also let you keep copies locally for off-line reading
and archiving.

Because of the above, IMAP suits users with multiple devices (e.g. PC
and phone) on the same account. Actions such as reading and deleting
that you carry out on one device are visible on the other(s). Using POP
with multiple devices is pretty inconvenient.

And, something no one specifically mentioned, you can have folders of
various saved emails stored on gmail's server. I have about 20 such
folders like Medical, Computer Stuff, etc. in which I squirrel away many
emails I want to keep. I typically use Thunderbird and the folders are
always at the left side of the window. And with IMAP, those folders are
available from any of my machines. Even if I am at a friend's house and
need some info, I can get to the folders via web based gmail.

Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer.

Not true...it does not move all mail, it only moves mail from the
account's Inbox on the server to the locally setup account Inbox.

--
...winston
msft mvp consumer apps

In message , . . .winston
writes:
Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer.

Not true...it does not move all mail, it only moves mail from the
account's Inbox on the server to the locally setup account Inbox.

I'm obviously not grasping something here. Your use of the word "only"
implies that there's some mail other than that in "the account's Inbox
on the server", that would still match ...winston's description of "your
email".
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J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , . . .winston
writes:
Nil wrote:
On 25 Apr 2015, OldGuy wrote in
alt.windows7.general:

What is the difference functionally between POP and IMAP?

POP3 protocol is designed to move all your email to your local
computer.

Not true...it does not move all mail, it only moves mail from the
account's Inbox on the server to the locally setup account Inbox.

I'm obviously not grasping something here. Your use of the word "only"
implies that there's some mail other than that in "the account's Inbox
on the server", that would still match ...winston's description of "your
email".

Yes there is. Drafts, Sent, Deleted, etc, not to mention any archive
folders that you've created.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England