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What software is used to edit MP4 videos?
What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3)
I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... |
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What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... What type of editing do you need? If just for cutting the video (on I frames), for example, that's one thing. If you need more, like a full blown mp4 video editor, that's a whole 'nother ball of wax, and most of those aren't free. The site below, and a good selective Google search, might get you started, however. https://www.videohelp.com/ |
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What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... In terms of "levels of irritation", Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty nice. In researching it, I learned that a "user" can craft additional entries, such as "fade in" and "fade out" their own selves, spending hours crafting the basics you would expect to find in any movie editor. Now, who doesn't want to spend their evenings doing that ? :-/ There is some kind of scripting language for adding effects. I suspect Windows Managers asked the developers to remove the useful stuff, so that WMM would not "wipe out the video editor industry". That's my best guess. You don't created a fricken scripting language, then not ship any scripts. I suspect there were scripts, but the management decided not to ship them. In any case, WMM has "scene scanning", and can break a clip into scenes by detecting fades to black, or apparent scene changes. It might, for example, allow commercial editing, by breaking TV program content away from each advert, and then you could drag and drop just the program content to the "timeline". That is the main "feature" of WMM. OK, so what doesn't WMM have ? It doesn't have convenient I/O. It doesn't accept a wide variety of input and output formats. You would expect output to WMV, and from there you could use a separate converter to go from WMV to MP4. As an example of how inefficient the editing process might end up being. But all things considered, it's actually *not* the worst movie editor I've run into. I've run into crap that crashes five seconds after it loads, which to me is the very definition of "defective". You could use WMM if you wanted, in a limited fashion, simply by keeping a copy of "ffmpeg" resting at your elbow. It could solve both the input and the output problem. As long as some format coming out of WMM, supports videos longer than 4GB... ******* I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania. What happened was, for unknown reasons, Adobe decided to shut down their license server for CS2. And, being Adobe, rather than send unlocked copies to all the customers who had registered their purchased copy, they instead put unlocked copies right on the web. There was, naturally, a feeding frenzy. At the time, I got this. I've never actually opened this file, or used it. The download came with a license key to unlock it. This software is only enough, it *probably* runs on WinXP. I included the license key value in the file name, so I would not forget. PPRO_2.0_Ret-NH_UE__Adobe_Premiere_Pro_2__1132-1280-4900-7476-5108-8019.zip File size 1,089,143,563 bytes My SHA1 value is: 24DC9B897B83F7A4E75F7BB5921A6E2A5BA94D36 The checksum can help you determine whether it has since been adulterated (when you download a copy from Techspot). But at least that editor is likely to have fade in and fade out. Whereas a freebie... might not. Like WMM lacks fade in and fade out, which is a pretty basic effect. You can see the timeline, at the lower right here. https://www.manifest-tech.com/images...o_2/pp-gui.jpg Have fun, Paul |
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Average Person wrote: What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... In terms of "levels of irritation", Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty nice. In researching it, I learned that a "user" can craft additional entries, such as "fade in" and "fade out" their own selves, spending hours crafting the basics you would expect to find in any movie editor. Now, who doesn't want to spend their evenings doing that ? :-/ There is some kind of scripting language for adding effects. I suspect Windows Managers asked the developers to remove the useful stuff, so that WMM would not "wipe out the video editor industry". That's my best guess. You don't created a fricken scripting language, then not ship any scripts. I suspect there were scripts, but the management decided not to ship them. In any case, WMM has "scene scanning", and can break a clip into scenes by detecting fades to black, or apparent scene changes. It might, for example, allow commercial editing, by breaking TV program content away from each advert, and then you could drag and drop just the program content to the "timeline". That is the main "feature" of WMM. OK, so what doesn't WMM have ? It doesn't have convenient I/O. It doesn't accept a wide variety of input and output formats. You would expect output to WMV, and from there you could use a separate converter to go from WMV to MP4. As an example of how inefficient the editing process might end up being. But all things considered, it's actually *not* the worst movie editor I've run into. I've run into crap that crashes five seconds after it loads, which to me is the very definition of "defective". You could use WMM if you wanted, in a limited fashion, simply by keeping a copy of "ffmpeg" resting at your elbow. It could solve both the input and the output problem. As long as some format coming out of WMM, supports videos longer than 4GB... ******* I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania. You're going to start him off by showing him Adobe Premiere Pro? :-) I think you would have been better off mentioning the freebie to him. The Adobe Premiere one is (IMO) only for some seasoned, video editing, professionals, of which I am not. :-) (I could say the same thing about Adobe Photoshop too, for that matter. :-) But if you want a full featured albatross, I'd say go for either one. :-) |
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Paul wrote: Average Person wrote: What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... In terms of "levels of irritation", Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty nice. In researching it, I learned that a "user" can craft additional entries, such as "fade in" and "fade out" their own selves, spending hours crafting the basics you would expect to find in any movie editor. Now, who doesn't want to spend their evenings doing that ? :-/ There is some kind of scripting language for adding effects. I suspect Windows Managers asked the developers to remove the useful stuff, so that WMM would not "wipe out the video editor industry". That's my best guess. You don't created a fricken scripting language, then not ship any scripts. I suspect there were scripts, but the management decided not to ship them. In any case, WMM has "scene scanning", and can break a clip into scenes by detecting fades to black, or apparent scene changes. It might, for example, allow commercial editing, by breaking TV program content away from each advert, and then you could drag and drop just the program content to the "timeline". That is the main "feature" of WMM. OK, so what doesn't WMM have ? It doesn't have convenient I/O. It doesn't accept a wide variety of input and output formats. You would expect output to WMV, and from there you could use a separate converter to go from WMV to MP4. As an example of how inefficient the editing process might end up being. But all things considered, it's actually *not* the worst movie editor I've run into. I've run into crap that crashes five seconds after it loads, which to me is the very definition of "defective". You could use WMM if you wanted, in a limited fashion, simply by keeping a copy of "ffmpeg" resting at your elbow. It could solve both the input and the output problem. As long as some format coming out of WMM, supports videos longer than 4GB... ******* I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania. You're going to start him off by showing him Adobe Premiere Pro? :-) I think you would have been better off mentioning the freebie to him. The Adobe Premiere one is (IMO) only for some seasoned, video editing, professionals, of which I am not. :-) (I could say the same thing about Adobe Photoshop too, for that matter. :-) But if you want a full featured albatross, I'd say go for either one. :-) I think it's worth a look. Think of it as a history lesson. Paul |
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Bill in Co wrote: Paul wrote: Average Person wrote: What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... In terms of "levels of irritation", Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty nice. In researching it, I learned that a "user" can craft additional entries, such as "fade in" and "fade out" their own selves, spending hours crafting the basics you would expect to find in any movie editor. Now, who doesn't want to spend their evenings doing that ? :-/ There is some kind of scripting language for adding effects. I suspect Windows Managers asked the developers to remove the useful stuff, so that WMM would not "wipe out the video editor industry". That's my best guess. You don't created a fricken scripting language, then not ship any scripts. I suspect there were scripts, but the management decided not to ship them. In any case, WMM has "scene scanning", and can break a clip into scenes by detecting fades to black, or apparent scene changes. It might, for example, allow commercial editing, by breaking TV program content away from each advert, and then you could drag and drop just the program content to the "timeline". That is the main "feature" of WMM. OK, so what doesn't WMM have ? It doesn't have convenient I/O. It doesn't accept a wide variety of input and output formats. You would expect output to WMV, and from there you could use a separate converter to go from WMV to MP4. As an example of how inefficient the editing process might end up being. But all things considered, it's actually *not* the worst movie editor I've run into. I've run into crap that crashes five seconds after it loads, which to me is the very definition of "defective". You could use WMM if you wanted, in a limited fashion, simply by keeping a copy of "ffmpeg" resting at your elbow. It could solve both the input and the output problem. As long as some format coming out of WMM, supports videos longer than 4GB... ******* I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania. You're going to start him off by showing him Adobe Premiere Pro? :-) I think you would have been better off mentioning the freebie to him. The Adobe Premiere one is (IMO) only for some seasoned, video editing, professionals, of which I am not. :-) (I could say the same thing about Adobe Photoshop too, for that matter. :-) But if you want a full featured albatross, I'd say go for either one. :-) I think it's worth a look. Think of it as a history lesson. Paul But one which will probably scare the OP away with all its complexities. :-) |
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On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 23:17:58 -0700, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: Paul wrote: Bill in Co wrote: Paul wrote: Average Person wrote: What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... In terms of "levels of irritation", Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty nice. In researching it, I learned that a "user" can craft additional entries, such as "fade in" and "fade out" their own selves, spending hours crafting the basics you would expect to find in any movie editor. Now, who doesn't want to spend their evenings doing that ? :-/ There is some kind of scripting language for adding effects. I suspect Windows Managers asked the developers to remove the useful stuff, so that WMM would not "wipe out the video editor industry". That's my best guess. You don't created a fricken scripting language, then not ship any scripts. I suspect there were scripts, but the management decided not to ship them. In any case, WMM has "scene scanning", and can break a clip into scenes by detecting fades to black, or apparent scene changes. It might, for example, allow commercial editing, by breaking TV program content away from each advert, and then you could drag and drop just the program content to the "timeline". That is the main "feature" of WMM. OK, so what doesn't WMM have ? It doesn't have convenient I/O. It doesn't accept a wide variety of input and output formats. You would expect output to WMV, and from there you could use a separate converter to go from WMV to MP4. As an example of how inefficient the editing process might end up being. But all things considered, it's actually *not* the worst movie editor I've run into. I've run into crap that crashes five seconds after it loads, which to me is the very definition of "defective". You could use WMM if you wanted, in a limited fashion, simply by keeping a copy of "ffmpeg" resting at your elbow. It could solve both the input and the output problem. As long as some format coming out of WMM, supports videos longer than 4GB... ******* I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania. You're going to start him off by showing him Adobe Premiere Pro? :-) I think you would have been better off mentioning the freebie to him. The Adobe Premiere one is (IMO) only for some seasoned, video editing, professionals, of which I am not. :-) (I could say the same thing about Adobe Photoshop too, for that matter. :-) But if you want a full featured albatross, I'd say go for either one. :-) I think it's worth a look. Think of it as a history lesson. Paul But one which will probably scare the OP away with all its complexities. :-) I am using I Org Soft converter. I got it for free in one of those promotional deals but it only costs $35. |
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On Mon, 4 Mar 2019 15:58:48 -0700, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: wrote: On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 23:17:58 -0700, "Bill in Co" surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: Paul wrote: Bill in Co wrote: Paul wrote: Average Person wrote: What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... In terms of "levels of irritation", Windows Movie Maker is actually pretty nice. In researching it, I learned that a "user" can craft additional entries, such as "fade in" and "fade out" their own selves, spending hours crafting the basics you would expect to find in any movie editor. Now, who doesn't want to spend their evenings doing that ? :-/ There is some kind of scripting language for adding effects. I suspect Windows Managers asked the developers to remove the useful stuff, so that WMM would not "wipe out the video editor industry". That's my best guess. You don't created a fricken scripting language, then not ship any scripts. I suspect there were scripts, but the management decided not to ship them. In any case, WMM has "scene scanning", and can break a clip into scenes by detecting fades to black, or apparent scene changes. It might, for example, allow commercial editing, by breaking TV program content away from each advert, and then you could drag and drop just the program content to the "timeline". That is the main "feature" of WMM. OK, so what doesn't WMM have ? It doesn't have convenient I/O. It doesn't accept a wide variety of input and output formats. You would expect output to WMV, and from there you could use a separate converter to go from WMV to MP4. As an example of how inefficient the editing process might end up being. But all things considered, it's actually *not* the worst movie editor I've run into. I've run into crap that crashes five seconds after it loads, which to me is the very definition of "defective". You could use WMM if you wanted, in a limited fashion, simply by keeping a copy of "ffmpeg" resting at your elbow. It could solve both the input and the output problem. As long as some format coming out of WMM, supports videos longer than 4GB... ******* I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania. You're going to start him off by showing him Adobe Premiere Pro? :-) I think you would have been better off mentioning the freebie to him. The Adobe Premiere one is (IMO) only for some seasoned, video editing, professionals, of which I am not. :-) (I could say the same thing about Adobe Photoshop too, for that matter. :-) But if you want a full featured albatross, I'd say go for either one. :-) I think it's worth a look. Think of it as a history lesson. Paul But one which will probably scare the OP away with all its complexities. :-) I am using I Org Soft converter. I got it for free in one of those promotional deals but it only costs $35. For a simple mp4 cutter (on the K frames), I'd recommend Machete, and it's cheap. Or SolveigMM Video Splitter, if you want to cut the mp4 video anywhere. I seem to recall using Cyberlink Power Director (an older version) for more involved editing work with mp4s. For multiplexing and demultiplexing mp4s, I've used MPEG Streamclip and My MP4Box GUI, and occasionally ffmpeg. I just have this because it was free but you can do some basic editing and it will export into a lot of different formats. If I make a WMV file I can use WMM. |
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Average Person wrote: What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) It appears in all the excitement, I missed the link. https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5...iere-free.html Paul |
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Paul wrote: Average Person wrote: What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) It appears in all the excitement, I missed the link. https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5...iere-free.html Paul To get a clip into Premiere, I had to convert the clip first to something it could read. I used AVIDemux 2.5 and what it claimed was .mp4. But the codec was some DIVX thing, which Premiere could read. C006_HD.avi 3,865,704 bytes 7 seconds I copied the input clip twice, to make a longer movie. I made the output in MPEG2 because that's what it supported. my-first-movie.m2v 25,035,691 bytes 14 seconds For my first effect, it looks like I faded out and faded in. But I can't really tell, because I don't know what I'm doing :-) https://i.postimg.cc/kgv1hMnX/fun-with-cs2.jpg Yes, there would be a learning curve. Paul |
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Paul wrote: Paul wrote: Average Person wrote: What software is used to edit MP4 videos? (For XP Pro SP3) I tried to use that Movie maker that came with XP. It wont touch MP4 files. I dont know what it is used for, I find it worthless.... I was going to suggest some crappy waste of time freebie, but then I remembered the CS2 sitting out there :-) It appears in all the excitement, I missed the link. https://www.techspot.com/downloads/5...iere-free.html Paul Here's another editor. It's easy, after the experience with Premiere. https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/release/ kdenlive-18.12.1.exe 04-Jan-2019 04:55 71M Details The only problem with that, is it's x64 only, so isn't going to run on WinXP x86. If you have a 64-bit OS, it might work. You have to edit the %PATH% variable in Control Panels : System : Environment Variables Place C:\Program Files\kdenlive\bin on the end of the path, with a semi-colon between it and the string to the left of it path1;path2;pathN;C:\Program Files\kdenlive\bin as that is necessary so the kednlive program can find the copy of FFMPEG included in the same bin. Here's a picture. https://i.postimg.cc/13Nsd5MF/using-kdenlive.jpg And don't forget to set the frame rate properly when you first start the project, because it'll screw up if you try and change it later (some clips run at different speeds than others). Because it uses FFMPEG, it has no problem with a variety of clip movie formats. The fact it's x64 kinda sucks. But that's life. It's better than me testing the one "known for crashing" :-) Kdenlive is also available for Linux (that's where the KDE in the name comes from, the KDE project). Paul |
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On Sun, 3 Mar 2019 13:44:10 -0700, "Bill in Co"
surly_curmudgeon@earthlink wrote: Chances are, this is so old, it won't support MP4. The main reason for showing this to you, is so you can see "what started it all". The pane design of this movie editor, is what everyone else aspires to copy. So this is what started the mania. You're going to start him off by showing him Adobe Premiere Pro? :-) I think you would have been better off mentioning the freebie to him. The Adobe Premiere one is (IMO) only for some seasoned, video editing, professionals, of which I am not. :-) (I could say the same thing about Adobe Photoshop too, for that matter. :-) But if you want a full featured albatross, I'd say go for either one. :-) I can relate to that. I have photoshop 7. Got it free, so I installed it. I rarely use it. I prefer my old Paint shop pro, from when that was still shareware. I dont want or need all the bloat in Photoshop, or even the newer versions of PSP. The older PSP does all I need, and I do a lot of detailed graphic editing. Simple is often better than bloated. And when I find software that works, I dont want to have to keep re-learning it, when there is no real advantage. Thats also why I keep using XP. I dont want or need all the bloated crap in windows 10. or even 8.x, or 7. The software companies keep adding crap so they can sell updates. NOT because we need or even want it. |
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2019 01:23:17 -0500, Paul wrote:
Here's another editor. It's easy, after the experience with Premiere. https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/release/ kdenlive-18.12.1.exe 04-Jan-2019 04:55 71M Details The only problem with that, is it's x64 only, so isn't going to run on WinXP x86. If you have a 64-bit OS, it might work. I dont have any 64bit system, so this wont work..... |
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On Thu, 07 Mar 2019 01:23:17 -0500, Paul wrote: Here's another editor. It's easy, after the experience with Premiere. https://files.kde.org/kdenlive/release/ kdenlive-18.12.1.exe 04-Jan-2019 04:55 71M Details The only problem with that, is it's x64 only, so isn't going to run on WinXP x86. If you have a 64-bit OS, it might work. I dont have any 64bit system, so this wont work..... But it's the first thing that didn't crash on me :-) Do you at least have an x64 CPU ? You can run VirtualBox (5.2.xx is the last for WinXP) and run 64-bit OSes on 32-bit XP as a host. ******* "Kdenlive windows 32 bit" https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=265&t=140613 "I believe Shotcut (using same libraries as Kdenlive) offers w32 builds" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shotcut https://www.shotcut.org/download/ What I can't tell you, is how long that will run without crashing. At least the KDEnlive, I was able to "edit" my movie a tiny bit. Paul |
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