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"William B. Lurie" wrote
... Thank you, Morgana, I may ask you for copies of the files it needs.....of which there will be several, all starting with 'fx' and with .dll extension. Do you have a website where you could put files for me to download and install? /wbl/ vw William ... Sorry .. do not have web site will be happy to send them where you wish if you like .... Morgana. Morgana. wrote: http://www.dynamiclink.nl/frames/dllindex.htm http://www.donker.ws/nuke/dll1f.php tried this one but does not have it http://www.dll-files.com/ I also have the fxsevent.dll file on my pc if you need. have fax installed ...followed the instructions several months ago and it worked for me ..... running XP Pro Morgana. "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sharon F wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. Bill Lurie Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems that really *have* to be solved. -- William B. Lurie |
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On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 21:04:29 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... I remember when you tried this before. I don't have much hope for you being able to install this from the eMachine recovery CD. You exhausted just about every possibility there the last time you tried this. I was hoping that you would be able to get this installed using the friend's CD that you got the Recovery Console from. It sounds like that is a more standard CD. When I installed this program, I used the wizard from Control Panel. I prefer that over the wizard from the CD (which I've never used). All I had to do was insert the XPCD when prompted and, I believe, I had to select the i386 folder as well. It really was that simple (I didn't have to rummage around for files). If I remember correctly I also had to use Printer and Fax folder to manually install a fax printer. That may or may not get installed by the Fax applet. If it doesn't appear, the recommended solution is to add it manually. Even though the file name is different, the resolution in this article is the suggested method for working through the problem you're facing: "Cannot Copy File Fxscfgwz.dll" Error Message When You Try to Install Windows XP Fax Services http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp PS: If it's any consolation, the MS Fax program is very basic - capable of sending one page faxes only. After sending a copy of a receipt via Fax, I uninstalled it. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 06:25:16 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
Thank you, Morgana, I may ask you for copies of the files it needs.....of which there will be several, all starting with 'fx' and with .dll extension. Do you have a website where you could put files for me to download and install? /wbl/ Morgana. wrote: http://www.dynamiclink.nl/frames/dllindex.htm http://www.donker.ws/nuke/dll1f.php tried this one but does not have it http://www.dll-files.com/ I also have the fxsevend.dll file on my pc if you need. have fax installed ...followed the instructions several months ago and it worked for me ..... running XP Pro Morgana. "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sharon F wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. Bill Lurie Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems that really *have* to be solved. -- William B. Lurie If you're going to go this route (which I'm not to sure will work), you could expand the DL_ files from your CD. Directions for how to Expand a file can be found in this article: Description and Explanation of a Cabinet File http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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Sharon F wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 06:25:16 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: Thank you, Morgana, I may ask you for copies of the files it needs.....of which there will be several, all starting with 'fx' and with .dll extension. Do you have a website where you could put files for me to download and install? /wbl/ Morgana. wrote: http://www.dynamiclink.nl/frames/dllindex.htm http://www.donker.ws/nuke/dll1f.php tried this one but does not have it http://www.dll-files.com/ I also have the fxsevend.dll file on my pc if you need. have fax installed ...followed the instructions several months ago and it worked for me ..... running XP Pro Morgana. "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sharon F wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. Bill Lurie Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems that really *have* to be solved. -- William B. Lurie If you're going to go this route (which I'm not to sure will work), you could expand the DL_ files from your CD. Directions for how to Expand a file can be found in this article: Description and Explanation of a Cabinet File http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp Sharon, I have done what you recommended earlier..... I tried the Add/Remove route, and when it asks where the files are, I insert the CD and tell it i386 just as you did, and it doesn't find them. I suspect it's because the XP Installation CD I borrowed has them as .dl_ files and not .dll .... I don't understand why this should be. So the two routes I have are to have the kind soul e-mail me all of the files that are needed (of which I don't even have a list), or convert the .dl_ files one at a time when they are asked for, to .dll files, and put them somewhere, where they can be found. They are not on my OEM CD because that contains only a GHOST image of what they supplied initially, and of course that included no FAX stuff. Most people aren't this persistent. Most people just give up in disgust, as I did last year. One thing that isn't clear to me is why Microsoft isn't willing to make the files available for download, and another is why the 3 XP installation Cds all have .dl_ files and yet yours appears to have .dll files.//Bill L.// |
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Morgana, there are 19 files starting with 'fx' and
with .dl_ extension. I can't ask you to e-mail me all 19, and who knows what else will be needed after that hurdle is crossed. It really would be more proper for the people closer to Microsoft to do it, and I've been hoping they'd pick up the ball instead of letting me fumble it. Bill L. Morgana. wrote: "William B. Lurie" wrote ... Thank you, Morgana, I may ask you for copies of the files it needs.....of which there will be several, all starting with 'fx' and with .dll extension. Do you have a website where you could put files for me to download and install? /wbl/ vw William ... Sorry .. do not have web site will be happy to send them where you wish if you like .... Morgana. Morgana. wrote: http://www.dynamiclink.nl/frames/dllindex.htm http://www.donker.ws/nuke/dll1f.php tried this one but does not have it http://www.dll-files.com/ I also have the fxsevent.dll file on my pc if you need. have fax installed ...followed the instructions several months ago and it worked for me ..... running XP Pro Morgana. "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sharon F wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. Bill Lurie Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems that really *have* to be solved. -- William B. Lurie |
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:53:39 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
I suspect it's because the XP Installation CD I borrowed has them as .dl_ files and not .dll .... I don't understand why this should be. This is normal, Bill. The files on the CD are compressed. The are expanded when they are installed. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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Sharon F wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 06:25:16 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: Thank you, Morgana, I may ask you for copies of the files it needs.....of which there will be several, all starting with 'fx' and with .dll extension. Do you have a website where you could put files for me to download and install? /wbl/ Morgana. wrote: http://www.dynamiclink.nl/frames/dllindex.htm http://www.donker.ws/nuke/dll1f.php tried this one but does not have it http://www.dll-files.com/ I also have the fxsevend.dll file on my pc if you need. have fax installed ...followed the instructions several months ago and it worked for me ..... running XP Pro Morgana. "William B. Lurie" wrote in message ... Sharon F wrote: On Sun, 28 Mar 2004 14:45:12 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: It didn't get installed on this PC. I believe it's on the CD. How do I install it? Thanks. Bill Lurie Control Panel Add/Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. Place a check next to Fax Services and click Next. You may be prompted for the WinXP CD. If you run into problems, direct the wizard to the i386 folder on the CD. HOW TO: Enable and Configure the Fax Service in Windows XP http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=306550 Sharon, I tried what you said, as I did last year at Rob's direction. I just tried it with two different XP CDs. It prompted, saying it needed file fxsevent.dll and I browsed to i386 on the CD, and when I hit Enter, it changed what was in my windows to \f\i386 or almost that, but it never found the .dll file. Browsing on the CD I find a zillion files starting ith fx .... and all with extension .dl_ ..... Incidentally, I don't even have to go to Add/Remove etcetera..... Just insertying the CD and waiting, its autorun starts it up and gives me four choices, one of which is to Add Windows Optional Components. That leads to the same impasse. You and Rob are reminding me that I'm following the same steps which didn't get that FAX installed last year. As a scientist I'm curious as to why I follow the right steps and get to where the 'uninstalled' .dl_ files are, and the installer doesn't convert them to .dll files and install them. I know I can buck it to the Microsoft insider Online Tech support people, but I like to save that recourse for problems that really *have* to be solved. -- William B. Lurie If you're going to go this route (which I'm not to sure will work), you could expand the DL_ files from your CD. Directions for how to Expand a file can be found in this article: Description and Explanation of a Cabinet File http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp Dear Sharon: I did some more searching, and found some interesting files. On my hard drive, in C:\windows\system32\dllcache I found all, or maybe almost all, of the fxszzzzz.dll files that the FX Install would require. I'd like to lead the Add/RemoveWindows programs Fax install to th file it says it needs, and wants me to give it the Installation CD so that it can install them. Instead, I tried to give it the file it asked for, from w:\Windows\system32\ dll cache, but it insists it wants the file from the CD. Well, it's a CATCH22, because on the CD, the files are unexpanded. And when I offer it an expanded file, it just ignores me and puts i386 in the location window. Tell me, are we making progress? Can you tell me how to move the file it wants to where it will accept it? Bill L. |
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If you're going to go this route (which I'm not to sure will work), you could expand the DL_ files from your CD. Directions for how to Expand a file can be found in this article: Description and Explanation of a Cabinet File http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;310435&Product=winxp Sharon, I have done what you recommended earlier..... I tried the Add/Remove route, and when it asks where the files are, I insert the CD and tell it i386 just as you did, and it doesn't find them. I suspect it's because the XP Installation CD I borrowed has them as .dl_ files and not .dll .... I don't understand why this should be. So the two routes I have are to have the kind soul e-mail me all of the files that are needed (of which I don't even have a list), or convert the .dl_ files one at a time when they are asked for, to .dll files, and put them somewhere, where they can be found. They are not on my OEM CD because that contains only a GHOST image of what they supplied initially, and of course that included no FAX stuff. Most people aren't this persistent. Most people just give up in disgust, as I did last year. One thing that isn't clear to me is why Microsoft isn't willing to make the files available for download, and another is why the 3 XP installation Cds all have .dl_ files and yet yours appears to have .dll files.//Bill L.// . Billy, Billy, Billy. You are really deserving of credit for resourcefulness in finding things to whine about. If you had read Sharon's response (or had someone with a brain read it to you) you would understand why those files have a .dl_ extension. THEY'RE COMPRESSED. Sharon told you how to go about learning how to decompress them. Just out of curiousity, have you tried pointing the install routine to the i386 folder on you hard drive? |
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 11:53:39 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
why the 3 XP installation Cds all have .dl_ files and yet yours appears to have .dll files. My CD is a retail XP CD. The files in the i386 folder are shown as .dl_ files. This compressed form is normal and expected. The files get expanded during installation. The compressed files can be manually expanded if necessary but this is usually done on a file by file basis for repairs. Here's the URL again for the article that explains how to manually expand files if you missed it before. Description and Explanation of a Cabinet File http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp As for your mystery CD.... An OEM CD that restores an image is not installing anything when you use it. It's not even an OEM restore CD that uses a customized install. It is simply a copy of a master hard drive (very much the same as the one you created last week with Drive Image). Then eMachines plops that image onto the hard drives of systems built with the same configuration as the machine with the "master" hard drive. Apparently they have added an i386 folder to the CD since you can see that when you examine the CD. This folder is normally supplied by the OEMs and even copied to the hard drive to add/remove components and to do small touchup repairs -- like reinstalling Paint if it gets broken. I really don't understand why the MS Fax files are lacking on the eMachine CD either. I'm not familiar with the options given to the OEMs and do not have access to that information. I can see them using a script or program that adds the i386 folder to their image. But I don't understand how they could end up with an i386 folder that does not included the needed items for the fax component. Fax is an optional component - one of the few things that XP setup does not install by default. It's part of the actual XP setup. It's not even stuck in a separate folder like the "NT Backup/WinXP Home" situation. There is a missing link somewhere between the OEM setup that eMachine uses to create the master images for their computers and the restore CD that they deliver to their customers. Unfortunately, I have no idea what it is. -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:13:04 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
Instead, I tried to give it the file it asked for, from w:\Windows\system32\ dll cache, but it insists it wants the file from the CD. Well, it's a CATCH22, because on the CD, the files are unexpanded. And when I offer it an expanded file, it just ignores me and puts i386 in the location window. Tell me, are we making progress? Can you tell me how to move the file it wants to where it will accept it? Bill, the problem isn't that the files are compressed or not compressed. The installation of the component will expand the necessary files. The one article that I posted a link to suggested copying the i386 folder to the hard drive. Have you tried that yet? Would suggest trying it with your i386 folder from eMachines. If that fails, try it again with the i386 from the borrowed CD. Here's the reference to the article again: "Cannot Copy File Fxscfgwz.dll" Error Message When You Try to Install Windows XP Fax Services http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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Sharon F wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 13:13:04 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: Instead, I tried to give it the file it asked for, from w:\Windows\system32\ dll cache, but it insists it wants the file from the CD. Well, it's a CATCH22, because on the CD, the files are unexpanded. And when I offer it an expanded file, it just ignores me and puts i386 in the location window. Tell me, are we making progress? Can you tell me how to move the file it wants to where it will accept it? Bill, the problem isn't that the files are compressed or not compressed. The installation of the component will expand the necessary files. The one article that I posted a link to suggested copying the i386 folder to the hard drive. Have you tried that yet? Would suggest trying it with your i386 folder from eMachines. If that fails, try it again with the i386 from the borrowed CD. Here's the reference to the article again: "Cannot Copy File Fxscfgwz.dll" Error Message When You Try to Install Windows XP Fax Services http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp I studied that article, Sharon, and downloaded it, and I followed on my machine, and saw the "expand" button but didn't do anything yet. I'll experiment some more this evening. I may have been unclear about the eMachines CD. It contains only a Ghost image which (a far as I can determine) is useless in doing anything other than a bulk replacement of the drive as I first received it. Destroying what I have, so that's out. What I've been trying to use in my CD reader is a genuine XP Pro Installation CD. It has the .dll files in .dl_ form, ready to be expanded into .dll files. But my hard drive already has those files, as .dll files, in C:\Windows\System32\dllcache ..... My logic, which doesn't seem to be valid, says, If I have the .dll files I need, on my hard drive, why can't the FAX installed use them? I try to lead it to the file it asks for, and it won't accept it. Are you telling me that the file fxsevent.dll that it goes to the CD for (and isn't there in expanded form) is not the fxsevent.dll file that is on my drive already, that the one on my drive needs to be expanded? Hope I'm not exasperating you....and the other people who have been annoyed by my persistence in trying to solve a problem. Bill Lurie William B. Lurie |
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Sharon, I've been experimenting with the Install Fax. I
found a whole slew of thwe fxs*.dll files in my hard drive in C:\windows\system32\dllcache .... maybe even all that the Fax Installer might need. But it won't accept them in the installation process. So I followed your msconfigExpand clue, and "expanded" a few of them and saved them in a new folder C:\dllfiles. Well, when I tried to Install, leading it to that folder when it stopped during Install, looking for those files, it wouldn't take them, either. It insists it wants them from i386 on the CD ... yet, as I mentioned to you, on my XP Pro Installation CD (*not* my OEM's Restore CD), they are all present in .dl_ form. Has anything I've tried given you any more clues as to how I can get past this roadblock? -- William B. Lurie |
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On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:31:29 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote:
So I followed your msconfigExpand clue, and "expanded" a few of them and saved them in a new folder C:\dllfiles. As I stated before, I didn't think that would work. At least you've learned how to expand files if the need should ever arise. Have you tried copying the i386 folder from the borrowed CD to the hard drive and using that to install yet? -- Sharon F MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User |
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Sharon F wrote:
On Mon, 29 Mar 2004 19:31:29 -0500, William B. Lurie wrote: So I followed your msconfigExpand clue, and "expanded" a few of them and saved them in a new folder C:\dllfiles. As I stated before, I didn't think that would work. At least you've learned how to expand files if the need should ever arise. Have you tried copying the i386 folder from the borrowed CD to the hard drive and using that to install yet? Gosh, I'm afraid to do that! Maybe if I put the existing folder into storage someplace, so I can put it back if need be. I guess that's my next step. I can't understand why it says go to i386 on the CD and then when I click it, it refuses to do anything. |
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Wislu Plethora wrote:
If you're going to go this route (which I'm not to sure will work), you could expand the DL_ files from your CD. Directions for how to Expand a file can be found in this article: Description and Explanation of a Cabinet File http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en- us;310435&Product=winxp Sharon, I have done what you recommended earlier..... I tried the Add/Remove route, and when it asks where the files are, I insert the CD and tell it i386 just as you did, and it doesn't find them. I suspect it's because the XP Installation CD I borrowed has them as .dl_ files and not .dll .... I don't understand why this should be. So the two routes I have are to have the kind soul e-mail me all of the files that are needed (of which I don't even have a list), or convert the .dl_ files one at a time when they are asked for, to .dll files, and put them somewhere, where they can be found. They are not on my OEM CD because that contains only a GHOST image of what they supplied initially, and of course that included no FAX stuff. Most people aren't this persistent. Most people just give up in disgust, as I did last year. One thing that isn't clear to me is why Microsoft isn't willing to make the files available for download, and another is why the 3 XP installation Cds all have .dl_ files and yet yours appears to have .dll files.//Bill L.// . Billy, Billy, Billy. You are really deserving of credit for resourcefulness in finding things to whine about. If you had read Sharon's response (or had someone with a brain read it to you) you would understand why those files have a .dl_ extension. THEY'RE COMPRESSED. Sharon told you how to go about learning how to decompress them. Just out of curiousity, have you tried pointing the install routine to the i386 folder on you hard drive? Please go soak your head. Your 'assistance' is not only not needed....it is useless. But you knew that. -- William B. Lurie |
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