No Boot Windows XP, 2.8Ghz desktop

BAD KEYBOARD!

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aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
Well, I can NOT access the BIOS screen since it allows me NOT to get into
anything via F8 or Delete.

Tapping either one many times does nothing. The CMOS battery is probably
less than 9 mos old though.

"Yves Leclerc" wrote in message
...
Checking NVRAM is part of the CMOS/BIOS start up. If this failes, it
could be that the CMOS/BIOS setting are screwed up. Access the BIOS
screen and check to see if the hard drive is correctly listed. If it is
not listed, then the CMOS battery may be dead and you would need to
replace it. It is normally fairly easy to replace. Pop out the old coin
cell and replace it with a new one. Then, redo the BIOS set ups.


"Ritter197" wrote in message
news
All of a sudden cannot boot up the desktop, a 2.8 GHZ, 512 MB Intel
computer,that before this morning always worked fine.
DEL or F8 does not work either so I cannot get to Safe Mode.

Inserting the Windows XP PRO disk does not get to it either since F8 or
Boot order does not work.

I worked still last night when I closed down after the market closed..

Any suggestions?

Time to take it to a professional trouble shooter, a guy who can physically
place his hands on your computer to test and diagnose the problem.

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
Let me start with the last. A floppy to boot into DOS does not work.

I have tried probably 20+ timess to tap repeatedly into DEL or F8. Does
not work.

I have taken the cables of the drives and re-attached them.

I also have taken out the battery for CMOS and checked it, it has the
correct voltage. Now that I have re-inserted the battery, I come to the
Pap800 (ASUS MB) screen and aagin it says to press delete, but I cannot
get to the CDROM which holds the ASUS MB infomation.

The KB connection in back of computer was also taken out and re-inserted,
just to make sure. So far I am stumped totally.


"Maurice N ~ MVP" wrote in message
...
Then the keys are the same. Power off pc. Wait perhaps a minute or so.
Power back up.
This time, tap & repeat tapping DEL to force it to get into BIOS setup.
See if it has an option for Fail Safe setting. If so, select that.

And do make sure you have no diskette or CD in the respective drives.

Now see if you can catch the point where you can tap F8 for Safe Mode.
BTW, have you made any hardware changes, add-ons, removals, or re-cabling
or been inside the pc case?
(granted you were just in there to move RAM around)
The point is to insure all cables are in the right places & secure. Make
sure your HD cables & connectors are OK and snug. Check on all power
connectors.
For the time being, power off any printer or external device (beyond
mouse, keyboard, and monitor).

If no joy, get a DOS diskette and use it to boot from ---- just to see if
that works.
--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User

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"Ritter197" wrote
I know it was in the past F8 and Del.

I have used it before.
I took the RAM out and re-inserted it just to make sure (it is Crucial
RAM) and it now says after the Checking NVRAM "Update OK!"

But there is where it stops.

"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
No idea re RAM, but it worked for many months before fine.
"Jim" wrote in message
m...

"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
I should have mentioned what I see:

AMIBIOS 2003 American Megatrends Inc
ASUS P4p800 ACPI BIOS Rev 1012
CPU Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.800 GHZ
Speed 2.8 GHZ
Press Del to run Setup
Press F8 for BBS Popup
DDR Frequency 400 MHZ Dual Channel, Linear mode
Cecking NVRAM


and that is where it hangs!
No wonder it hangs. That is a hardware problem. Isn't Non Volatile Ram
on
the motherboard?
Jim
It wasn't broken before, but it is now. Take to a shop which repairs PCs.
Jim

NO. I may have to try it, but I do not have one around.

I am using a Logitech wireless KB, have checked and inputted new
batteries though and set Connect on KB, Mouse and Receiver.
I am getting this am beyond the "Ai face or head" and am now stuck at the
beginning where it says Entering Setup but it is stuck at checking NVRAM,
just stays there.


imbo" wrote in message
...
Have you tried a new keyboard...?

"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
I should have mentioned what I see:

AMIBIOS 2003 American Megatrends Inc
ASUS P4p800 ACPI BIOS Rev 1012
CPU Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.800 GHZ
Speed 2.8 GHZ
Press Del to run Setup
Press F8 for BBS Popup
DDR Frequency 400 MHZ Dual Channel, Linear mode
Cecking NVRAM


and that is where it hangs!


"Ritter197" wrote in message
news
All of a sudden cannot boot up the desktop, a 2.8 GHZ, 512 MB Intel
computer,that before this morning always worked fine.
DEL or F8 does not work either so I cannot get to Safe Mode.

Inserting the Windows XP PRO disk does not get to it either since F8 or
Boot order does not work.

I worked still last night when I closed down after the market closed..

Any suggestions?

Ritter,
This pc very obviously has hardware issues. I do see you addressed this =
to windowsxp.hardware (amongst others), and I was about to suggest that.
So, besides suggesting you take this to a good shop technician, what I'd =
suggest is the following:
If this has a USB keyboard, use an older PS2 keyboard instead. Use a =
basic mouse.
Physically remove (or disconnect) any external devices. Remove modem =
and network cards.
Basically get the attached hardware to only bare necessities: HD, =
keyboard, mouse, monitor.

Q: What are trying to get from the Asus MB CD? You can use another pc =
to view your MB specs on the Asus website.
Can you take your Asus CD to a working pc, look at its contents, =
look for user manuals, tech info ?

Q: What did you have on that DOS floppy?

Finally, if the issue turns out to be the BIOS-CMOS settings, there's a =
way to reset it on your systemboard. You just have to find the =
documentation on how to do it.

--=20
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User
-----


Ritter197 wrote:
Let me start with the last. A floppy to boot into DOS does not work.
=20
I have tried probably 20+ timess to tap repeatedly into DEL or F8.
Does not work.
=20
I have taken the cables of the drives and re-attached them.
=20
I also have taken out the battery for CMOS and checked it, it has the
correct voltage. Now that I have re-inserted the battery, I come to
the Pap800 (ASUS MB) screen and aagin it says to press delete, but I
cannot get to the CDROM which holds the ASUS MB infomation.
=20
The KB connection in back of computer was also taken out and
re-inserted, just to make sure. So far I am stumped totally.
=20

Have you tried a new keyboard...?

"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
I should have mentioned what I see:

AMIBIOS 2003 American Megatrends Inc
ASUS P4p800 ACPI BIOS Rev 1012
CPU Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.800 GHZ
Speed 2.8 GHZ
Press Del to run Setup
Press F8 for BBS Popup
DDR Frequency 400 MHZ Dual Channel, Linear mode
Cecking NVRAM


and that is where it hangs!


"Ritter197" wrote in message
news
All of a sudden cannot boot up the desktop, a 2.8 GHZ, 512 MB Intel
computer,that before this morning always worked fine.
DEL or F8 does not work either so I cannot get to Safe Mode.

Inserting the Windows XP PRO disk does not get to it either since F8 or
Boot order does not work.

I worked still last night when I closed down after the market closed..

Any suggestions?

Press F8 for BBS Popup
That line is a bit unusual. It may be that your BIOS is corrupt.

Some of the boards have a backup of bios that can be used to recover if you
have the utility disk from the board mfr. Each is a little different, so you
would need to find out what is appropriate for your board. My son had this
happen with a now very old Abit board, and we finally had to get a new BIOS
chip from Abit. The cause was a really nasty virus.

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news
NO. I may have to try it, but I do not have one around.

I am using a Logitech wireless KB, have checked and inputted new
batteries though and set Connect on KB, Mouse and Receiver.
I am getting this am beyond the "Ai face or head" and am now stuck at the
beginning where it says Entering Setup but it is stuck at checking NVRAM,
just stays there.


imbo" wrote in message
...
Have you tried a new keyboard...?

"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
I should have mentioned what I see:

AMIBIOS 2003 American Megatrends Inc
ASUS P4p800 ACPI BIOS Rev 1012
CPU Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.800 GHZ
Speed 2.8 GHZ
Press Del to run Setup
Press F8 for BBS Popup
DDR Frequency 400 MHZ Dual Channel, Linear mode
Cecking NVRAM


and that is where it hangs!


"Ritter197" wrote in message
news All of a sudden cannot boot up the desktop, a 2.8 GHZ, 512 MB Intel
computer,that before this morning always worked fine.
DEL or F8 does not work either so I cannot get to Safe Mode.

Inserting the Windows XP PRO disk does not get to it either since F8
or
Boot order does not work.

I worked still last night when I closed down after the market closed..

Any suggestions?

I have been trying a number of times to hit repeatedly also the F8 key. It
does not get me there. I stays presently at : "Checking NVRAM". Sometimes I
can get it to go to NVRAM updated and then stays there forever.


"Chuck" wrote in message
...
Press F8 for BBS Popup
That line is a bit unusual. It may be that your BIOS is corrupt.

Some of the boards have a backup of bios that can be used to recover if
you have the utility disk from the board mfr. Each is a little different,
so you would need to find out what is appropriate for your board. My son
had this happen with a now very old Abit board, and we finally had to get
a new BIOS chip from Abit. The cause was a really nasty virus.

"Ritter197" wrote in message
news
NO. I may have to try it, but I do not have one around.

I am using a Logitech wireless KB, have checked and inputted new
batteries though and set Connect on KB, Mouse and Receiver.
I am getting this am beyond the "Ai face or head" and am now stuck at the
beginning where it says Entering Setup but it is stuck at checking NVRAM,
just stays there.


imbo" wrote in message
...
Have you tried a new keyboard...?

"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
I should have mentioned what I see:

AMIBIOS 2003 American Megatrends Inc
ASUS P4p800 ACPI BIOS Rev 1012
CPU Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.800 GHZ
Speed 2.8 GHZ
Press Del to run Setup
Press F8 for BBS Popup
DDR Frequency 400 MHZ Dual Channel, Linear mode
Cecking NVRAM


and that is where it hangs!


"Ritter197" wrote in message
news All of a sudden cannot boot up the desktop, a 2.8 GHZ, 512 MB Intel
computer,that before this morning always worked fine.
DEL or F8 does not work either so I cannot get to Safe Mode.

Inserting the Windows XP PRO disk does not get to it either since F8
or
Boot order does not work.

I worked still last night when I closed down after the market
closed..

Any suggestions?

OK, good advice. At this time I have no other KB though.

What I triede to get from the ASUS CD is do the installation of the P4P800
MB. (I have done this in the past 1 or 2 times and never had a problem, but
that was when I could get beyond the "hung" screen with "checking NVRAM"
that sometimes, very seldom goes to: "NVRAM checked and updated"

The DOS floppy in the past would get me to an A: prompt. Not much, but
sometimes that is what I needed. But this time the A drive is not being
recognized yet.


"Maurice N ~ MVP" wrote in message
...
Ritter,
This pc very obviously has hardware issues. I do see you addressed this to
windowsxp.hardware (amongst others), and I was about to suggest that.
So, besides suggesting you take this to a good shop technician, what I'd
suggest is the following:
If this has a USB keyboard, use an older PS2 keyboard instead. Use a basic
mouse.
Physically remove (or disconnect) any external devices. Remove modem and
network cards.
Basically get the attached hardware to only bare necessities: HD, keyboard,
mouse, monitor.

Q: What are trying to get from the Asus MB CD? You can use another pc to
view your MB specs on the Asus website.
Can you take your Asus CD to a working pc, look at its contents, look
for user manuals, tech info ?

Q: What did you have on that DOS floppy?

Finally, if the issue turns out to be the BIOS-CMOS settings, there's a way
to reset it on your systemboard. You just have to find the documentation on
how to do it.

--
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User
-----


Ritter197 wrote:
Let me start with the last. A floppy to boot into DOS does not work.

I have tried probably 20+ timess to tap repeatedly into DEL or F8.
Does not work.

I have taken the cables of the drives and re-attached them.

I also have taken out the battery for CMOS and checked it, it has the
correct voltage. Now that I have re-inserted the battery, I come to
the Pap800 (ASUS MB) screen and aagin it says to press delete, but I
cannot get to the CDROM which holds the ASUS MB infomation.

The KB connection in back of computer was also taken out and
re-inserted, just to make sure. So far I am stumped totally.

I would also pull the cmos bat for a bit and try again.

"Jimbo" wrote in message
...
Have you tried a new keyboard...?

"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
I should have mentioned what I see:

AMIBIOS 2003 American Megatrends Inc
ASUS P4p800 ACPI BIOS Rev 1012
CPU Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.800 GHZ
Speed 2.8 GHZ
Press Del to run Setup
Press F8 for BBS Popup
DDR Frequency 400 MHZ Dual Channel, Linear mode
Cecking NVRAM


and that is where it hangs!


"Ritter197" wrote in message
news
All of a sudden cannot boot up the desktop, a 2.8 GHZ, 512 MB Intel
computer,that before this morning always worked fine.
DEL or F8 does not work either so I cannot get to Safe Mode.

Inserting the Windows XP PRO disk does not get to it either since F8
or
Boot order does not work.

I worked still last night when I closed down after the market closed..

Any suggestions?

On Fri, 3 Jun 2005 16:03:56 -0400, "Ritter197"
wrote:

Press Del to run Setup

Did you try this? If not, do so, and go into setup and find boot
order and set your CD to boot first. Insert your Windows CD and exit
the bios.

When the CD boots go into repair mode.
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On Fri, 03 Jun 2005 20:42:12 GMT, "Jim" wrote:

Cecking NVRAM


and that is where it hangs!

Ah, I read this wrong. Sounds real bad all right.
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http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/

You have a hardware issue. NVRAM is where the BIOS settings are stored.
Press Del to enter Setup. if that doesnt work you can try clearing CMOS
and try Del again, otherwise contact motherboard tech support.

Ritter197 wrote:

No idea re RAM, but it worked for many months before fine.
"Jim" wrote in message
m...

"Ritter197" wrote in message
...

I should have mentioned what I see:

AMIBIOS 2003 American Megatrends Inc
ASUS P4p800 ACPI BIOS Rev 1012
CPU Intel Pentium 4 CPU 2.800 GHZ
Speed 2.8 GHZ
Press Del to run Setup
Press F8 for BBS Popup
DDR Frequency 400 MHZ Dual Channel, Linear mode
Cecking NVRAM


and that is where it hangs!

No wonder it hangs. That is a hardware problem. Isn't Non Volatile Ram
on
the motherboard?
Jim

could not believe it. It was a USB ditribution box that caused me all that
trouble. But I found that out after I re-installed Windows XP, but without
formatting.

So, I am in business again, finally.

Thanks for all who came through with suggestions. The one that said, try
removing all and try the bare bones approach, did work.


"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
BAD KEYBOARD!

--
Regards,

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!


"Ritter197" wrote in message
...
Well, I can NOT access the BIOS screen since it allows me NOT to get into
anything via F8 or Delete.

Tapping either one many times does nothing. The CMOS battery is probably
less than 9 mos old though.

"Yves Leclerc" wrote in message
...
Checking NVRAM is part of the CMOS/BIOS start up. If this failes, it
could be that the CMOS/BIOS setting are screwed up. Access the BIOS
screen and check to see if the hard drive is correctly listed. If it is
not listed, then the CMOS battery may be dead and you would need to
replace it. It is normally fairly easy to replace. Pop out the old
coin cell and replace it with a new one. Then, redo the BIOS set ups.


"Ritter197" wrote in message
news All of a sudden cannot boot up the desktop, a 2.8 GHZ, 512 MB Intel
computer,that before this morning always worked fine.
DEL or F8 does not work either so I cannot get to Safe Mode.

Inserting the Windows XP PRO disk does not get to it either since F8 or
Boot order does not work.

I worked still last night when I closed down after the market closed..

Any suggestions?

OK. Good news, finally !
btw, USB distribution box would fall under my suggestion to remove =
(dis-connect) *all* external devices.
I just wish you'd done that way earlier.
--=20
Maurice N
MVP Windows - Shell / User
-----

Ritter197 wrote:
could not believe it. It was a USB ditribution box that caused me all
that trouble. But I found that out after I re-installed Windows XP,
but without formatting.
=20
So, I am in business again, finally.
=20
Thanks for all who came through with suggestions. The one that said,
try removing all and try the bare bones approach, did work.
=20