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Windows 7 and Outlook Express 6
Does OE6 work in Windows 7, if so, how to install it?
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AAH wrote:
Does OE6 work in Windows 7, if so, how to install it? "Windows 7" does not identify which EDITION of Windows 7 that you have. There are several, some if which you are unlikely to have but still could have. Starter Home Basic Home Premium Professional * Enterprise * Ultimate * * These give you the option of using "XP Mode" which is a virtual machine manager (VMM) that can load virtual machines (VMs) running a guest OS, like Windows XP. Those editions include a license for Windows XP that you can then run inside a VM in "XP Mode". XP Mode requires 2 downloads from Microsoft. One download is a slightly modified version of Microsoft's VirtualPC 2007 (the VMM) and the other is to provide transparency to the VM so you don't know the app is running inside a VM. http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...e-in-windows-7 While Microsoft's articles may still mention hardware-assisted virtualization is required, I believe Microsoft dropped that hardware requirement (in the CPU). You'll see a bunch of scary warnings that Microsoft has dropped support for Windows XP. The XP Mode downloads are still live you can still get them. Make sure you download the Windows VirtualPC (WVPC) whose bit-width matches that of your OS: 32-bit WVPC for 32-bit Win7, 64-bit WVPC for 64-bit Win7. You don't need to be concerned about the WinXP VM download since that's a 32-bit OS (but watch which language version you choose). Alternatively, you could use a different e-mail client to use under Windows 7. I'm using Thunderbird (although after a 4-month trial I'm starting to long for MS Outlook even with the crappy ribbon bar). There's EssentialPIM which is similar to Outlook; however, the freeware version will spam stamp your outbound e-mails with EPIM's signature (which means you don't get to add your own signature or send e-mails with no signature). It payware version costs $40 for the one-version purchase (you pay for later version upgrades) or $70 for a lifetime license that covers all future versions, so it's definitely cheaper than buying a standalone copy of just Outlook. Further research by you will expose other choices for e-mail clients, some of which are free. You can endure the installation, setup, and using a VM running [slower] Windows XP which includes IE6 which bundled OE6 with it (you can update to IE8 in Windows XP but OE6 is the last version of that product and why OE is not bundled with later versions of IE). Or you endure the same pain in migrating to a new e-mail client. XP Mode is available in Windows 7 but not in Windows 8, so you'll lose XP Mode if you eventually move to a later version of Windows. Then you'll suffer having to migrate from OE (in XP Mode) to something else later. Pain now, or pain later. Since you're in the transition mode now, you can choose to go with XP Mode and then have to transition again later, or you can move to a different e-mail client that you hope has longevity and support to survive into those later versions of Windows. Note: Although I use Thunderbird, Mozilla announced awhile back that they are reducing support on it. So although I chose Thunderbird, its days could be numbered. Even Outlook's days seem to be numbered. Everyone seems enamored with "cloud" oriented services rather than producing local clients (or, at least, with heavy-weight local clients versus light-weight clients as a UI to the cloud service). We're devolving away from distributed endpoint computing back to the days of [dumb] workstations and mainframes. Remember bell bottoms? Well, they made a retro comeback for awhile. Maybe afros will come back, too, along with tie-dyed or paisley shirts. I did like the Nehru jackets since lapels and collars are vestigial frou frou. |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 02:09:55 -0300, pjp wrote:
The problem with these damn web based email servers is I doubt they respect the "delete from server" setting and keep a copy backed up regardless. You could say the same about ANY email provider. There's nothing about web based email that makes it any more or less likely. -- Char Jackson |
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You can install Windows Mail:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...dows-mail.html "AAH" wrote... Does OE6 work in Windows 7, if so, how to install it? |
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"VanguardLH" wrote in message
You can endure the installation, setup, and using a VM running [slower] Windows XP which includes IE6 which bundled OE6 with it (you can update to IE8 in Windows XP but OE6 is the last version of that product and why OE is not bundled with later versions of IE). Or you endure the same pain in migrating to a new e-mail client. XP Mode is available in Windows 7 but not in Windows 8, so you'll lose XP Mode if you eventually move to a later version of Windows. Then you'll suffer having to migrate from OE (in XP Mode) to something else later. Pain now, or pain later. Or he could use a different VM - Oracle's Virtual Box is one - that works just fine with XP on Win8. -- dadiOH ____________________________ Winters getting colder? Tired of the rat race? Taxes out of hand? Maybe just ready for a change? Check it out... http://www.floridaloghouse.net |
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Hi, AAH.
As pjp said, No, OE (any version) does not run and cannot even be installed in Win7 - except in a Virtual Machine using XP Mode, as Vanguard LH explains. As you probably have learned, Win7 comes with NO email client or newsreader at all. We must each select, download and install one of our choice. The closest we can come to OE is Windows Live Mail, free to download (separately or included in the Microsoft (Live) Essentials) from: http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...ive/essentials Just beware that WLM has gone through many versions, including variations in its name. :( The current version in the one shown in my Sig: Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331) This and the past several versions use the Ribbon GUI that is now used by Microsoft Office. It takes some getting used to, but gets better with use. One major fault in WLM, which Microsoft has said they will not fix because all development of WLM ceased about 4 years ago, is its failure to properly quote prior messages in the thread. We have to insert the "" markers manually. :( For this and other reasons, many Win7/8 users have chosen other mail/news clients. You will see them discussed at length in these newsgroups. Some users use Outlook (NOT Outlook Express!) for email and choose a different program for newsgroups. The bottom line is that you must choose the program that fits YOU and YOUR needs. RC -- R. C. White, CPA San Marcos, TX Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010) Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331) in Win8.1 Pro with Media Center "AAH" wrote in message news Does OE6 work in Windows 7, if so, how to install it? |
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| The problem with these damn web based email servers is I doubt they
| respect the "delete from server" setting and keep a copy backed up | regardless. | | You could say the same about ANY email provider. There's nothing about web | based email that makes it any more or less likely. | Typical POP3 behavior is to delete the email from the server. It's private storage. Google, by contrast, claims to co-own your email. As far as I know, MS and Yahoo are the same, though I think Yahoo held out with a shred of decency for awhile, if I remember correctly. They claim the right to rifle through your email for advertising purposes. It's known that it can't be deleted from their server. Deleting it only means you can't get it. Free webmail is simply not your property. You forfeit that right in signing up. (Unfortunately, you also forfeit that right on behalf of people you correspond with. On the bright side, Google is currently being sued on that score. Their defense consists of saying that no one has a right to expect privacy, apparently in any venue of life. Though, oddly, I still haven't seen anything about the URL for Eric Schmidtt's bath-cam.) That's not to say that the spooks are not forcing retention behind the scenes. Or maybe ISPs will try to start selling personal data. Who knows? But traditionally ISPs have wanted email deleted in order to save space. And there are also private companies. In my case I have my own domain, so email goes through my web host. And of course that's not getting into the general inferiority of pushing email through a system that was never designed for it. Some ISPs do sub out, as you noted. That's something one has to watch out for. I have a brother who used to use isp.com. They dumped him into gmail, still using the isp.com address. I don't know how the TOS compare in that case. |
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"AAH" schreef in bericht
news Does OE6 work in Windows 7, if so, how to install it? You can port Windows Mail (from Vista) to Windows 7. Windows Mail is very similar to Outlook Express. I did so and it works fine on Windows 7. -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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"Linea Recta" wrote... "AAH" schreef in bericht news Does OE6 work in Windows 7, if so, how to install it? You can port Windows Mail (from Vista) to Windows 7. Windows Mail is very similar to Outlook Express. I did so and it works fine on Windows 7. -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os +1 |
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"AAH" wrote in message
news Does OE6 work in Windows 7, if so, how to install it? I have Windows 7 Pro with Windows XP Mode installed and run OE6 just fine from within the virtual environment. Have an icon on my Windows 7 desktop that takes me right into OE6. I will use OE6 for as long as I can find away to make it work. -- Bill Brought to you from Anchorage, Alaska. |
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"Bill Bradshaw" schreef in bericht
ions... "AAH" wrote in message news Does OE6 work in Windows 7, if so, how to install it? I have Windows 7 Pro with Windows XP Mode installed and run OE6 just fine from within the virtual environment. Have an icon on my Windows 7 desktop that takes me right into OE6. I will use OE6 for as long as I can find away to make it work. -- Bill How much extra space does virtual environment take on hard disk? -- |\ /| | \/ |@rk \../ \/os |
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On Fri, 4 Jul 2014 11:38:01 +0300, Live wrote:
You can install Windows Mail: Or he could install a decent newsreader. http://www.newsreaders.com/win/clients.html -- s|b |
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dadiOH wrote:
"VanguardLH" wrote in message You can endure the installation, setup, and using a VM running [slower] Windows XP which includes IE6 which bundled OE6 with it (you can update to IE8 in Windows XP but OE6 is the last version of that product and why OE is not bundled with later versions of IE). Or you endure the same pain in migrating to a new e-mail client. XP Mode is available in Windows 7 but not in Windows 8, so you'll lose XP Mode if you eventually move to a later version of Windows. Then you'll suffer having to migrate from OE (in XP Mode) to something else later. Pain now, or pain later. Or he could use a different VM - Oracle's Virtual Box is one - that works just fine with XP on Win8. Will VirtualPC run a VPC image (.vhd disk image file) made to load under WVPC? The install of XP Mode has you download and save the .vhd file. The 2nd download has you get and install WVPC (under which you load the ..vhd image file). You don't install Windows XP in the VM. You're given a .vhd file so all the "installation" in the VM has already been made. |
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