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Old July 7th 14, 05:05 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week
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Old July 7th 14, 05:41 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 7/7/2014 9:05 AM, john wrote:
I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made. This is analogous to the
transparent watermark I often see in one corner of the screen during a
TV show.

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Old July 7th 14, 06:21 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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john wrote:
I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


This site has tools listed.

http://www.videohelp.com/tools

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/secti...ditors-mpg-dvd

Example of an editor, one without "smart edits". Smart
edits are where a video doesn't need to be re-encoded
after the edit it done. Changing the X*Y by snipping
part of it, I doubt a smart edit is possible in that case,
and there will be generational loss when it is re-encoded.
Smart edits work best, if snipping out a piece of video and
splicing the pieces together. Not having to re-encode is a
time saver and avoids quality loss.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avidemux

What looks like a "crop" function in Avidemux.

http://ts2.mm.bing.net/th?id=HN.6080...5&pid=15.1&P=0

Another editor, VirtualDub. But this one requires videos in AVI
format, so you might have to convert them first. Work on a
chapter at a time, and try to keep below the (original) AVI
standard file size limit, so you don't have to deal with
(broken) AVI tools. I don't know how many little experiments
here, have been ruined by that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtualdub

http://images.wondershare.com/images...virtualdub.png

The great thing about free tools, is you can waste a couple weeks
doing the simplest of chores. Or, spend $99 and get a real editor.

*******

Wikipedia has lists of stuff too, that you can go through.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...iting_software

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...iting_software

One problem with Microsoft freebie movie editors, is output
formats. They don't output in a useful format. Tools based
on libavcodec code (related to FFMPEG), are more likely
to have codecs built-in for better I/O opportunities.
Not that such codecs are free of issues. Setting up
the profile for one, is a challenge in itself, if
someone hasn't done it for you. I couldn't figure out
how to do that...

Paul
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Old July 7th 14, 07:05 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article , jwelles339
@gmail.com says...

I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


VirtualDub has a plugin that'll crop. P5roblem is you'll first have to
rip the contents of the dvd to a supported avi file format, do the edits
then re-encode the result back to a dvd. Depends how fussy you are and
the guality of the original content but for most applications the result
is watchable.
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Old July 7th 14, 08:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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David E. Ross wrote:

john wrote:

I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?


If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made.


It's off-topic, anyway, since this is not an issue with Windows 7, the
topic of THIS newsgroup.

I think the OP thinks the title is somehow in a separate layer than for
the video content. If he "edits" out a big white title, frame by frame,
then he's left with a big black title. It's not like the content he
thinks is underneath will magically be retrieved from somewhere to float
into place of where was the title. Probably the best he can do is lop
off the frames having the title so he cuts off the front end of the
video. There are lots of such editors, like Machete Lite (which only
works on AVI and WMV files but you can use a converter to get to those
formats but perhaps with some loss in quality).

Then there's the meta-data to provide a watermark. There are folks that
get editors to remove the meta-data, too. Then there's DRM (Digital
Rights Management) which can somehow be deployed into MPEG-4 files but
conversion (with the resultant quality loss) gets rid of that. I think
DRM'ed WMV requires DRM remover software (e.g., Tunebite). Could be
just converting from one video format to another might eliminate DRM.
Seems the only way to mostly ensure a watermark proving ownership cannot
be erased is to use steganography.
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Old July 7th 14, 08:46 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:05:57 -0300, pjp wrote:

In article , jwelles339
@gmail.com says...

I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


VirtualDub has a plugin that'll crop. P5roblem is you'll first have to
rip the contents of the dvd to a supported avi file format, do the edits
then re-encode the result back to a dvd. Depends how fussy you are and
the guality of the original content but for most applications the result
is watchable.


Most of the more sophisticated, and paid for, editors can crop,
If you're wanting to edit out stuff that show up on the screen from time to
time, yeah you can do it if you're willing to shell out the really big
bucks.
Big problem is, most after production editors don't know the difference
between text and a blank screen. So you can not edit out text with the
click of a mouse. You can, if you were the one who created the text and
added it in that editor.

I have used video edit magic from deskshare.com and corel studio 6.
Both can crop as desired.
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Old July 7th 14, 08:48 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
richard
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:41:57 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/7/2014 9:05 AM, john wrote:
I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made. This is analogous to the
transparent watermark I often see in one corner of the screen during a
TV show.


I just love copyright cops. NOT!
It is not your place to advise anyone what they can or can not do with any
material.
What if the material in question is his legally owned and copyrighted (by
him) stuff?
The only person who can enforce copyright, is the legal copyright holder.
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Old July 7th 14, 09:27 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:48:46 -0400, richard wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:41:57 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/7/2014 9:05 AM, john wrote:
I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made. This is analogous to the
transparent watermark I often see in one corner of the screen during a
TV show.


I just love copyright cops. NOT!
It is not your place to advise anyone what they can or can not do with any
material.
What if the material in question is his legally owned and copyrighted (by
him) stuff?
The only person who can enforce copyright, is the legal copyright holder.


You said "It is not your place to advise.." and then *you* proceeded to
advise...

Is that not contradictory? Or are you immune to the restriction you are
trying to impose?

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Old July 7th 14, 09:36 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:41:57 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made. This is analogous to the
transparent watermark I often see in one corner of the screen during a
TV show.


How is this an answer to the question(s) the OP is asking?

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Old July 7th 14, 10:13 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 07/07/2014 21:36, s|b wrote:


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Old July 7th 14, 10:34 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 22:36:11 +0200, s|b wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:41:57 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made. This is analogous to the
transparent watermark I often see in one corner of the screen during a
TV show.


How is this an answer to the question(s) the OP is asking?


By being a little OT. As are you and I :-)

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Old July 8th 14, 12:41 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:27:13 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:48:46 -0400, richard wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:41:57 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/7/2014 9:05 AM, john wrote:
I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made. This is analogous to the
transparent watermark I often see in one corner of the screen during a
TV show.


I just love copyright cops. NOT!
It is not your place to advise anyone what they can or can not do with any
material.
What if the material in question is his legally owned and copyrighted (by
him) stuff?
The only person who can enforce copyright, is the legal copyright holder.


You said "It is not your place to advise.." and then *you* proceeded to
advise...

Is that not contradictory? Or are you immune to the restriction you are
trying to impose?


Hardly contradictory.
Copyright law, which you should read, says that the person holding the
copyright is the only person who can initiate infringement.
There was no mention as to what type of material was to be cropped.
So we can not assume the OP wanted to erase the copyright stuff.
Even if the OP did so, the material would still be legally copyrighted.
Technically, the notice does not even have to be shown.

In its quest to become master of the copyright cops, youtube began
comparing music to known recordings. If the music matched, even a few
seconds, you got slapped with their notice of copyright infringement.
What they were doing was not checking the copyright itself, but rather, did
a recording exist? One I posted got slapped even though the actual music
was public domain.
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Old July 8th 14, 02:13 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 19:41:40 -0400, richard wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:27:13 -0700, Gene E. Bloch wrote:

On Mon, 7 Jul 2014 15:48:46 -0400, richard wrote:

On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:41:57 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/7/2014 9:05 AM, john wrote:
I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made. This is analogous to the
transparent watermark I often see in one corner of the screen during a
TV show.

I just love copyright cops. NOT!
It is not your place to advise anyone what they can or can not do with any
material.
What if the material in question is his legally owned and copyrighted (by
him) stuff?
The only person who can enforce copyright, is the legal copyright holder.


You said "It is not your place to advise.." and then *you* proceeded to
advise...

Is that not contradictory? Or are you immune to the restriction you are
trying to impose?


Hardly contradictory.
Copyright law, which you should read, says that the person holding the
copyright is the only person who can initiate infringement.
There was no mention as to what type of material was to be cropped.
So we can not assume the OP wanted to erase the copyright stuff.
Even if the OP did so, the material would still be legally copyrighted.
Technically, the notice does not even have to be shown.

In its quest to become master of the copyright cops, youtube began
comparing music to known recordings. If the music matched, even a few
seconds, you got slapped with their notice of copyright infringement.
What they were doing was not checking the copyright itself, but rather, did
a recording exist? One I posted got slapped even though the actual music
was public domain.


Non-sequitur.

I was pointing out that you were telling someone else not to tell
someone else what to do.

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Old July 8th 14, 03:43 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 7/7/2014 12:48 PM, richard wrote:
On Mon, 07 Jul 2014 09:41:57 -0700, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/7/2014 9:05 AM, john wrote:
I am running Windows 7 home premium sp1 and would like to edit some mpg
files. Is there any program that allows you to edit just a portain of the
scenes to remove the title that appears at the bottom? Like cropping a jpg
to remove the title in the jpg?
Thanks for any help and have a great week


If the title indicates a copyright or other intellectual property
ownership, such cropping is illegal. In some cases, a caption -- not
any explicit indication of ownership -- might be added as a clue to
whether an illegal copy has been made. This is analogous to the
transparent watermark I often see in one corner of the screen during a
TV show.


I just love copyright cops. NOT!
It is not your place to advise anyone what they can or can not do with any
material.
What if the material in question is his legally owned and copyrighted (by
him) stuff?
The only person who can enforce copyright, is the legal copyright holder.


I never once said that John (who posted the original message in this
thread) should not do what he wants to do. I merely presented some
facts about it.

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The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia.
See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html.
 




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