order within save/load dialogue boxes

The default order that directories and files are in a save/load box is
directories first (in alphanumeric order), followed by files (ditto).

I seem to have done something that alters this - the files and
directories _shown to me in save/load boxes_ are in some other order
(creation/modification date maybe? Since date isn't shown in a save/load
box, I can't verify that).

How do I put it back?
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On 11/7/2010 4:56 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
The default order that directories and files are in a save/load box is
directories first (in alphanumeric order), followed by files (ditto).

I seem to have done something that alters this - the files and
directories shown to me in Save/Load boxes are in some other order
(creation/modification date maybe?) Since date isn't shown in a Save/Load
box, I can't verify that).

How do I put it back?

Open the folders in Explorer, select Detail View and change the order
for those folders. If that doesn't work, try Kelly's fix that sets the
view to Detail View. Then change to the order you prefer.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 85. Set Detail View for all Folders Open/Save As

--

Joe =o)

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 20:27:18 -0500, Elmo wrote:

On 11/7/2010 4:56 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
The default order that directories and files are in a save/load box is
directories first (in alphanumeric order), followed by files (ditto).

I seem to have done something that alters this - the files and
directories shown to me in Save/Load boxes are in some other order
(creation/modification date maybe?) Since date isn't shown in a Save/Load
box, I can't verify that).

How do I put it back?

Open the folders in Explorer, select Detail View and change the order
for those folders. If that doesn't work, try Kelly's fix that sets the
view to Detail View. Then change to the order you prefer.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 85. Set Detail View for all Folders Open/Save As

And -- very important -- hold down the Ctrl key while closing the
dialog box with the red X. (Or it might be the Shift key, or Ctrl-
Shift: I can't remember and I don't have Windows XP any more. But I
remember it's one of those while closing the dialog box, to lock in
your preference.)

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 20:27:18 -0500, Elmo wrote:

On 11/7/2010 4:56 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
The default order that directories and files are in a save/load box is
directories first (in alphanumeric order), followed by files (ditto).

I seem to have done something that alters this - the files and
directories shown to me in Save/Load boxes are in some other order
(creation/modification date maybe?) Since date isn't shown in a Save/Load
box, I can't verify that).

How do I put it back?

Open the folders in Explorer, select Detail View and change the order
for those folders. If that doesn't work, try Kelly's fix that sets the

That didn't work. I just tried to save your post, to a given directory.
I got a save (actually "Export", but that's just this email software -
it's the same if I use "Save" or "Open" in other applications) window
showing the contents of that folder, with the sub-folders in the order
m-, b-, a, f-, J-, d-, a- ... so I hit Cancel, and opened the same
folder in Explorer, and selected View, Details. (Which is what I usually
have in Explorer anyway.) Then I tried to save (Export) the email again.
Same order in the Save window.

view to Detail View. Then change to the order you prefer.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 85. Set Detail View for all Folders Open/Save As

That looks like quite a useful add-on, but that is indeed what it is: an
add-on. Call me perverse, but I want to get to the bottom of how the
order has been changed in the basic Windows Save and Open boxes, before
I start adding.

And -- very important -- hold down the Ctrl key while closing the
dialog box with the red X. (Or it might be the Shift key, or Ctrl-

Which dialog box, and at what point? (I presume you mean the close X at
the top right. I don't have it red.)

Shift: I can't remember and I don't have Windows XP any more. But I
remember it's one of those while closing the dialog box, to lock in
your preference.)

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Men were _real_ men, women were _real_ women, and small furry creatures from
Alpha Centauri were _real_ small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. (s1, ft3)

On 11/8/2010 5:28 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 20:27:18 -0500, Elmo wrote:

On 11/7/2010 4:56 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
The default order that directories and files are in a save/load box is
directories first (in alphanumeric order), followed by files (ditto).

I seem to have done something that alters this - the files and
directories shown to me in Save/Load boxes are in some other order
(creation/modification date maybe?) Since date isn't shown in a
Save/Load
box, I can't verify that).

How do I put it back?

Open the folders in Explorer, select Detail View and change the order
for those folders. If that doesn't work, try Kelly's fix that sets the

That didn't work. I just tried to save your post, to a given directory.
I got a save (actually "Export", but that's just this email software -
it's the same if I use "Save" or "Open" in other applications) window
showing the contents of that folder, with the sub-folders in the order
m-, b-, a, f-, J-, d-, a- ... so I hit Cancel, and opened the same
folder in Explorer, and selected View, Details. (Which is what I usually
have in Explorer anyway.) Then I tried to save (Export) the email again.
Same order in the Save window.

Here's the whole procedure, and a possible explanation. I found it with
a Google Search:

http://www.technologyquestions.com/t...ialog-box.html

view to Detail View. Then change to the order you prefer.

http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_tweaks.htm
Line 85. Set Detail View for all Folders Open/Save As

That looks like quite a useful add-on, but that is indeed what it is: an
add-on. Call me perverse, but I want to get to the bottom of how the
order has been changed in the basic Windows Save and Open boxes, before
I start adding.

Most of Kelly's tweaks are registry edits.. I forgot that one was a
program. I wouldn't use it either.

And -- very important -- hold down the Ctrl key while closing the
dialog box with the red X. (Or it might be the Shift key, or Ctrl-

Which dialog box, and at what point? (I presume you mean the close X at
the top right. I don't have it red.)

Shift: I can't remember and I don't have Windows XP any more. But I
remember it's one of those while closing the dialog box, to lock in
your preference.)

--

Joe =o)

In message , Elmo
writes:
On 11/8/2010 5:28 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Stan Brown
writes:
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 20:27:18 -0500, Elmo wrote:

On 11/7/2010 4:56 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
The default order that directories and files are in a save/load box is
directories first (in alphanumeric order), followed by files (ditto).

I seem to have done something that alters this - the files and
directories shown to me in Save/Load boxes are in some other order
(creation/modification date maybe?) Since date isn't shown in a
Save/Load
box, I can't verify that).

How do I put it back?

Open the folders in Explorer, select Detail View and change the order
for those folders. If that doesn't work, try Kelly's fix that sets the

That didn't work. I just tried to save your post, to a given directory.
I got a save (actually "Export", but that's just this email software -
it's the same if I use "Save" or "Open" in other applications) window
showing the contents of that folder, with the sub-folders in the order
m-, b-, a, f-, J-, d-, a- ... so I hit Cancel, and opened the same
folder in Explorer, and selected View, Details. (Which is what I usually
have in Explorer anyway.) Then I tried to save (Export) the email again.
Same order in the Save window.

Here's the whole procedure, and a possible explanation. I found it with
a Google Search:

Thanks - it's difficult to know what to search for.

http://www.technologyquestions.com/t...5828-file-sort
-order-reversed-wrong-file-open-file-save-dialog-box.html

Unfortunately, it didn't work - neither the My Computer | Explore, View
List, sort icons by, Ctrl-X (tried for both C: and D, nor doing the
same in the actual save box itself as suggested by another in the
thread. Though as an interim measure at least knowing I can resort a
save/load window itself will help.
[]
Most of Kelly's tweaks are registry edits.. I forgot that one was a
program. I wouldn't use it either.

Glad you agree (-:

And -- very important -- hold down the Ctrl key while closing the
dialog box with the red X. (Or it might be the Shift key, or Ctrl-

I now realise that is sort of the same as the one you found, but it
specifies Detail View rather than List View.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)Ar@T0H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Men were _real_ men, women were _real_ women, and small furry creatures from
Alpha Centauri were _real_ small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri. (s1, ft3)