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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have a license key on the side of your computer?
mechanic on Sat, 28 Apr 2018 13:12:20 +0100
typed in alt.windows7.general the following: On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote: Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows assuming you have a license key on the side of your computer (which almost everyone has). Paul found this for Windows 7 (in the Windows counterfeit jail thread). Official download for Windows 7 disc image iso files https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7 But where is the Windows XP ISO file official download location? But why would you want it? It's many versions out of date. It is also stable, there is software which only works on XP, and it has an interface which doesn't "get in the way". If I could get XP's interface, I would not care what collection of "upgrades", "improvements", and innovations are behind the screen. -- pyotr filipivich The question was asked: "Is Hindsight overrated?" In retrospect, it appears to be. |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have alicense key on the side of your computer?
On 04/27/2018 04:48 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , Big Al [snip] Can you slipstream it to SP1, then 3 - i. e. in two stages? I know that when you try to install SP3 on a new XP (no service packs), you get a message that you have to have SP1 or SP2 first. I usually use SP2. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "The scientific mind does not so much provide the right answers as ask the right questions." -- Claude Lévi-Strauss |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have alicense key on the side of your computer?
On 04/27/2018 05:26 PM, mike wrote:
[snip] Load whatever you have, install the service packs. The only reason to slipstream is to save time when you intend multiple installs. I might have done multiple installations years ago. Now it's unlikely. I just have one installation of XP. I want to be able to test older browsers (mainly FF and older IE that requires a 2-bit system). -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "The scientific mind does not so much provide the right answers as ask the right questions." -- Claude Lévi-Strauss |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you havea license key on the side of your computer?
On 28-4-2018 17:36, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On 04/27/2018 04:48 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , Big Al [snip] Can you slipstream it to SP1, then 3 - i. e. in two stages? I know that when you try to install SP3 on a new XP (no service packs), you get a message that you have to have SP1 or SP2 first. I usually use SP2. And I found that sp3 would not install if ie was to old. I had to install ie8 after I installed sp2. |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have a license key on the side of your computer?
In message , Mark Lloyd
writes: On 04/27/2018 05:26 PM, mike wrote: [snip] Load whatever you have, install the service packs. The only reason to slipstream is to save time when you intend multiple installs. I might have done multiple installations years ago. Now it's unlikely. I just have one installation of XP. I want to be able to test older browsers (mainly FF and older IE that requires a 2-bit system). Did that run on the 4004? -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf science is not intended to be foolproof. Science is about crawling toward the truth over time. - Scott Adams, 2015-2-2 |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have a license key on the side of your computer?
In message , Paul
writes mechanic wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote: But where is the Windows XP ISO file official download location? But why would you want it? It's many versions out of date. If you use that, and use the output of WsusOffline 9.2.1, you can bring it back up to date. In my ongoing messing-about with doing a virgin XP installation and activation, I found that there is now a later version - 9.2.4esr. -- Ian |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you havea license key on the side of your computer?
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Paul writes mechanic wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote: But where is the Windows XP ISO file official download location? But why would you want it? It's many versions out of date. If you use that, and use the output of WsusOffline 9.2.1, you can bring it back up to date. In my ongoing messing-about with doing a virgin XP installation and activation, I found that there is now a later version - 9.2.4esr. Weird. I thought they'd given up on WinXP. Paul |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have a license key on the side of your computer?
In message , Paul
writes Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Paul writes mechanic wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote: But where is the Windows XP ISO file official download location? But why would you want it? It's many versions out of date. If you use that, and use the output of WsusOffline 9.2.1, you can bring it back up to date. In my ongoing messing-about with doing a virgin XP installation and activation, I found that there is now a later version - 9.2.4esr. Weird. I thought they'd given up on WinXP. Paul Apparently not quite! http://bangfriends.net/2602015-wsus-...l-924-esr-port able.html It worked OK, although it did give me a desktop logon icon (which I've never had before when using WSUS), and then it won't let you log on and get into XP unless you've activated XP. Fortunately, there's a fix that which lets you open XP, and also sets the activation time to the usual 30 days (phone only). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzTuHuWhdcY (look in 'Show More'). -- Ian |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you havea license key on the side of your computer?
Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Paul writes Ian Jackson wrote: In message , Paul writes mechanic wrote: On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote: But where is the Windows XP ISO file official download location? But why would you want it? It's many versions out of date. If you use that, and use the output of WsusOffline 9.2.1, you can bring it back up to date. In my ongoing messing-about with doing a virgin XP installation and activation, I found that there is now a later version - 9.2.4esr. Weird. I thought they'd given up on WinXP. Paul Apparently not quite! http://bangfriends.net/2602015-wsus-...l-924-esr-port able.html It worked OK, although it did give me a desktop logon icon (which I've never had before when using WSUS), and then it won't let you log on and get into XP unless you've activated XP. Fortunately, there's a fix that which lets you open XP, and also sets the activation time to the usual 30 days (phone only). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzTuHuWhdcY (look in 'Show More'). That command is a "re-arm". The grace period is 3*30 or 90 days. You can issue the re-arm command twice. There is a different re-arm command for WinXP than for Win7. Curious that the usage of WSUS would do that... to an activated copy of the OS. Some file must be getting deleted. When you run wsusoffline on a "host" system, the Windows Update service must be "healthy" on that machine, for wsusoffline to actually work. If the update window on the host "spins forever" as some Vista setups do, that would make for a poor host to run the Wsusoffline WinXP collection one on. In fact, for some of the other OS versions of Wsusoffline, they now have a folder of "lets repair WindowsUpdate" files they like to apply first, to tip WindowsUpdate itself on the target upright, before running the rest of the updates. Even though that tool is intended to be used by end-users, it still requires some understanding and some debugging skills... when it produces nothing. At times, the process can be as annoying, as getting Windows Update working on the target (which for Vista is almost impossible). And as much as I trust the people on the wsusoffline to write their collection scripts, I still like to look through the collection of update files and remove any ringers that don't belong. I don't want any WGA notification update shoved in there by accident. There is one WGA entry that makes WindowsUpdate work (which is mandatory), but the notification bar one is optional and doesn't belong. Neither would you expect to install the "end of life" WinXP update, that puts the "this OS is no longer supported" kind of message on the WinXP screen. They do edit the update list a bit, but I still like to skim through the update numbers for stuff that slips through (that I wouldn't normally install). Paul |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have a license key on the side of your computer?
In message , mechanic
writes On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote: Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows assuming you have a license key on the side of your computer (which almost everyone has). Paul found this for Windows 7 (in the Windows counterfeit jail thread). Official download for Windows 7 disc image iso files https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7 But where is the Windows XP ISO file official download location? But why would you want it? It's many versions out of date. Some people are fascinated by things vintage and antique? -- Ian |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have alicense key on the side of your computer?
On 04/28/2018 06:53 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
[snip] I might have done multiple installations years ago. Now it's unlikely. I just have one installation of XP. I want to be able to test older browsers (mainly FF and older IE that requires a 2-bit system). Did that run on the 4004? I don't like this keyboard. It had trouble with the '3' key. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "All religions are founded on the fear of the many and the cleverness of the few." -- Marie Henri Beyle (Stendhal) |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have a license key on the side of your computer?
On Sun, 29 Apr 2018 15:39:26 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , mechanic writes On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 16:31:00 +0000 (UTC), Bob J Jones wrote: Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows assuming you have a license key on the side of your computer (which almost everyone has). Paul found this for Windows 7 (in the Windows counterfeit jail thread). Official download for Windows 7 disc image iso files https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7 But where is the Windows XP ISO file official download location? But why would you want it? It's many versions out of date. Some people are fascinated by things vintage and antique? Well this is the group for that - Vista, two versions of Win8 and four of Win10 to go! |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you have a license key on the side of your computer?
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wrote: Well this is the group for that - Vista, two versions of Win8 and four of Win10 to go! It probably belongs in its own thread, but I'm with those who feel that WinXP and Win7 are just fine, where I've used them all, including Win10. Ignoring the inescapable ramifications of the technically arbitrary marketing decision to drop support, I don't see anything in Windows 10 that isn't already in Windows 7 and Windows XP. |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you havea license key on the side of your computer?
On 4/29/2018 7:28 PM, Bob J Jones wrote:
In , mechanic wrote: Well this is the group for that - Vista, two versions of Win8 and four of Win10 to go! It probably belongs in its own thread, but I'm with those who feel that WinXP and Win7 are just fine, where I've used them all, including Win10. Ignoring the inescapable ramifications of the technically arbitrary marketing decision to drop support, I don't see anything in Windows 10 that isn't already in Windows 7 and Windows XP. The only thing I found wrong with Vista, after all the updates, was that it only supported two TV tuners. Vista COA stickers are everywhere... |
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Where to get official copies of Microsoft Windows if you havea license key on the side of your computer?
mike wrote:
On 4/29/2018 7:28 PM, Bob J Jones wrote: In , mechanic wrote: Well this is the group for that - Vista, two versions of Win8 and four of Win10 to go! It probably belongs in its own thread, but I'm with those who feel that WinXP and Win7 are just fine, where I've used them all, including Win10. Ignoring the inescapable ramifications of the technically arbitrary marketing decision to drop support, I don't see anything in Windows 10 that isn't already in Windows 7 and Windows XP. The only thing I found wrong with Vista, after all the updates, was that it only supported two TV tuners. Vista COA stickers are everywhere... Vista is going to be a pig to get updates into. Microsoft never gave a damn about fixing Windows Update on Vista. They did make an effort on the other OSes. The secret there, is finding a certain folder on the WsusOffline for Vista (last version) that covers the key items that have to be installed first. Vista SP2 may be fine as an OS, but if there's a key with my name on it out there, you can keep it. It took me about three tries, at two solid days work a try, to try and figure out how to get Windows Update to work. Whereas some MS OSes will spin for finite periods of time, I couldn't get the Windows Update window to paint on its own on Vista. But I eventually defeated it and got it working. Once you succeed at that, you can install the Optional Updates (time zone patch, font Ruble and Pound symbol patches maybe). And you'll have the usual amount of trouble finding the SMBV1 patches. Paul |
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