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Seth wrote:
Windows 10 http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated Ho hum. Interesting that the images of Windows 10 contradict the written content... -- best regards, Neil |
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Seth sethNOSPAM NOSPAMclcpro.com wrote:
Windows 10 http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC business and start innovating in the desktop PC business. The glaring example is speech. Ultraportable PCs (like smartphones and tablets) already have better built-in speech capabilities than Windows does. If Google and Nuance port speech recognition and control to Linux, I'm out of here. |
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Trying to use Microsoft's Windows Speech Recognition (WSR) or Dragon
NaturallySpeaking (DNS) for dictation and control is becoming a nightmare. Windows 8 has a few nice features that I like, like fully functional Aero window previews from the taskbar when using a high contrast color scheme, but it's killing my speech. |
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"John Doe" wrote in message
... Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC business and start innovating in the desktop PC business. Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a market big enough to attract MS. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote:
"John Doe" wrote Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC business and start innovating in the desktop PC business. Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a market big enough to attract MS. From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same number as always. But like I said, Microsoft doesn't innovate, it does just enough to keep its stranglehold on desktop computer software. I submit that's part of the problem with PC sales. Of course tablets would have come along anyway, but Microsoft could help the PC technology if it were an innovator instead of just a monopoly holder. More people would be buying PCs. You can bet that PC sales will drop just before Microsoft is pushed out of the business and another conglomerate takes over. Microsoft has made more than enough money off of the personal computer market to make personal computers into a lot more than they are today. Apparently many big corporate leaders have forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten that it involves reinvesting the money. |
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"John Doe" wrote in message
... "Don Phillipson" wrote: "John Doe" wrote Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC business and start innovating in the desktop PC business. Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a market big enough to attract MS. From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same number as always. All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays (not to mention also tablets.) . . . Apparently many big corporate leaders have forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten that it involves reinvesting the money. This may be true of "capitalism" but is not uniformly so for people. Most people with investments either (a) cash them in so as to enjoy spending the proceeds, or (b) bequeathe them to other people who may make their own decisions (whether to invest or enjoy.) The general system of capitalism does indeed "involve" reinvesting, but capital does not by itself. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On 10/1/14 7:31 AM, Don Phillipson wrote:
"John Doe" wrote in message ... "Don Phillipson" wrote: "John Doe" wrote Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC business and start innovating in the desktop PC business. Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a market big enough to attract MS. From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same number as always. All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays (not to mention also tablets.) Just a thought on my part, but with the increasing size and power of laptops, perhaps laptops and desktops should be lumped together for a conversation like this. And to me, the Surface seems to be moving towards being more of a laptop than a tablet. . . . Apparently many big corporate leaders have forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten that it involves reinvesting the money. This may be true of "capitalism" but is not uniformly so for people. Most people with investments either (a) cash them in so as to enjoy spending the proceeds, or (b) bequeathe them to other people who may make their own decisions (whether to invest or enjoy.) The general system of capitalism does indeed "involve" reinvesting, but capital does not by itself. -- Ken Mac OS X 10.8.5 Firefox 25.0 Thunderbird 24.6.0 "My brain is like lightning, a quick flash and it's gone!" |
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Yeah I know that reinvesting is not a requirement. I wasn't
talking about requirements. I was talking about the way the system is supposed to work. Our country has become an oligarchy. And obviously there are filthy rich people who have more money than their descendents will ever spend. Those same people have not reinvested enough of the money they have sucked from the rest of us. It's like the old saying about cleaning your own house before you clean others. Microsoft could do (or could have done) some really great stuff with the personal computer instead of just sucking monopoly profits from the people. It wants to monopolize ultraportable computers too. If you own a tablet, you can see the innovation taking place that's nonexistent on the desktop. Nobody (except maybe the government) is going to give Microsoft the same chance to dumb-down tablets like it has done with the PC. -- "Don Phillipson" e925 SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca wrote: Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.albasani.net!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Don Phillipson" e925 SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca Newsgroups: alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8 Subject: Next version of Windows is... Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:31:15 -0400 Organization: albasani.net Lines: 34 Message-ID: m0gvou$lpb$4 news.albasani.net References: m0ep5f$en4$1 nocheese.eternal-september.org m0eqnl$od7$1 dont-email.me m0fhi1$3nb$2 news.albasani.net m0fncp$sqs$1 dont-email.me X-Trace: news.albasani.net 5J8Jzak4jbiq2aynLfzj0U5landsAS/YFtkA424fYYmrvCqXe9rSYL3vAWt96cLALt2z+DOyUbdSGPUG/HyMs7w9JTT1+rtilHZ+S2y8HfslpzVAcR4i3zdq36PSh2lp NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 13:32:15 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: news.albasani.net; logging-data="AiTsd3xKj/nUuSCmpl9OCOuDCyURGBIEnM5EZPYHVO3aoBHe0KFtMS2a2MWz K4D5A0kbNxC+bEu/BVDu+M81Y8lsNhn2ToYDisyx0PVF829TTl+37zRBW2uXpCXHEk hk"; mail-complaints-to="abuse albasani.net" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 Cancel-Lock: sha1:kSVMSITlW6WpwCE9GzQKs0i+C9A= X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Xref: news.eternal-september.org alt.windows7.general:110082 alt.comp.os.windows-8:18874 "John Doe" always.look message.header wrote in message news:m0fncp$sqs$1 dont-email.me... "Don Phillipson" e925 SPAMBLOCK.ncf.ca wrote: "John Doe" always.look message.header wrote Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC business and start innovating in the desktop PC business. Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a market big enough to attract MS. From what I can see, looks like they sell approximately the same number as always. All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays (not to mention also tablets.) . . . Apparently many big corporate leaders have forgotten how capitalism is supposed to be, they have forgotten that it involves reinvesting the money. This may be true of "capitalism" but is not uniformly so for people. Most people with investments either (a) cash them in so as to enjoy spending the proceeds, or (b) bequeathe them to other people who may make their own decisions (whether to invest or enjoy.) The general system of capitalism does indeed "involve" reinvesting, but capital does not by itself. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:31:15 -0400, "Don Phillipson"
wrote: All local indicators suggest laptops far outsell desktops nowadays (not to mention also tablets.) Leaving aside tablets, which are very different from desktops or laptops, if laptops outsell desktops, I think it's crazy. As far as I'm concerned, almost the only situation when a laptop should be used instead of a desktop is when traveling, because it's smaller and lighter, and therefore easier to carry. In all other respects, a laptop is inferior to a desktop: It's more expensive to buy It's less upgradable Replacement parts or upgraded parts are move expensive to buy Doing replacement or upgrading is harder and often requires a serviceman It's more likely to have problems, since it can easily be dropped and broken It's more expensive to repair It's more easily stolen The keyboard is smaller and harder to use The monitor is smaller and harder to see Probably other things too, but those are the ones that come to my mind quickly. |
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On 10/01/2014 12:50 AM, The Other Guy wrote:
On Tue, 30 Sep 2014 20:14:16 -0400, "Don Phillipson" wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message ... Microsoft needs to stop trying to harness the ultraportable PC business and start innovating in the desktop PC business. Retailers do not nowadays sell enough new desktops to constitute a market big enough to attract MS. They SHOULD have gone with the trend, and called it Windows Plus, instead of just a number. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Oh yes, please, Windows Plus Pro and Windows Plus Ultimate and Windows Plus Home and maybe and Windows Plus Minus. |
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"Seth" wrote in message ... Windows 10 http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated Here's a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84NI5fjTfpQ |
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On 30/09/2014 18:27, Seth wrote:
Windows 10 http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated Officially here also: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2014/09/30/announcing-windows-10/ Keep Linux Junkies guessing. |
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Seth wrote:
Windows 10 http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/30/m...=rss_truncated I'm guessing the "Windows 10" is to compete with "MacOSX". And that means all future OSes will be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc. Maybe it's acknowledgment of a "subscription future". I would not accept a naive rationale for why it is "10". There is some evil in that choice, which we'll have to wait and see. This was not a "9 stinks as a number" decision. It has some other meaning. For Apple, the break from MacOS 9 to MacOSX, was a transition from cooperative multitasking to pre-emptive multitasking. It was a change worthy of a new name (as pre-emptive is not crash prone like co-operative was). In the case of Microsoft, the transition from 8 to 10 involves no new technologies (I've seen no ground breaking announcements), so this is hardly a comparable naming exercise. Microsoft had pre-emptive multitasking for a lot longer than Apple. And before them, probably some Unix kernel. But for Apple, their rewrite of the OS was a turning point, from the "toy OS" that was MacOS 9. MacOS 6 through 9 were still very nice, but "they crashed too much". It used to crash once a day for me, on average. It's where the notion of "do frequent saves" came from. You're on a Mac. The MacOSX machine here, doesn't have that problem (not that I use it much any more). Paul |
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On Wed, 01 Oct 2014 00:47:29 -0400, Paul wrote:
I'm guessing the "Windows 10" is to compete with "MacOSX". And that means all future OSes will be 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, etc. Maybe it's acknowledgment of a "subscription future". I would not accept a naive rationale for why it is "10". There is some evil in that choice, which we'll have to wait and see. This was not a "9 stinks as a number" decision. It has some other meaning. Well, the number spoken English does sound like the German word for "no", and marketing people do take heed of things like that. Anyway, why should Microsoft feel the need to compete with something that only has about 10% of the market? Rod. |
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