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Old March 22nd 17, 03:28 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Mr. Man-wai Chang
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438


Could I just download and install KB 4015438, skipping 4013429?

Their 64-bit download are of file sizes over 1 GBytes!!!

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Old March 23rd 17, 07:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most

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Could I just download and install KB 4015438, skipping 4013429?

Their 64-bit download are of file sizes over 1 GBytes!!!

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Old March 23rd 17, 02:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most


And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern
internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take
me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The
majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G(
very pricey METERED connections).

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  #4  
Old March 23rd 17, 03:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote:

Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most


And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern
internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take
me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The
majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G(
very pricey METERED connections).



Or if you are rural and have to use a satellite link, you can not
download it at all....


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Old March 23rd 17, 04:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

slate_leeper wrote:
Or if you are rural and have to use a satellite link, you can not
download it at all....


Oh, yeah I fell for the HughesNet scam. I even eat the penalty to dump
it when this meager DSL arrived.

Hey TelCOs, where is my Fiber-Information-Superhighway promised in the
90s in exchanged for deregulation? We all know...

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Old April 5th 17, 06:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

On 3/23/2017 10:01 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
slate_leeper wrote:
Or if you are rural and have to use a satellite link, you can not
download it at all....


Oh, yeah I fell for the HughesNet scam. I even eat the penalty to dump
it when this meager DSL arrived.

Hey TelCOs, where is my Fiber-Information-Superhighway promised in the
90s in exchanged for deregulation? We all know...

I live outside of Oklahoma City and the best that's available where I
live is a WISP called Aerosurf (Wireless Internet Service Provider).
It's not the fastest ISP I've been with, but its better than nothing for
the price you pay. It's fast enough to allow 1 HD video stream from Vudu
or Netflix, but that's about it, and for $50 a month for unlimited
access, it's a bargain compared to other services around here.

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Old March 23rd 17, 04:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote:

Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most


And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern
internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take
me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The
majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G(
very pricey METERED connections).


I'm not sure I agree that it's a majority who only have slow DSL or
dial-up available to them. It's probably a majority of the country, but
a majority of the people? That doesn't sound right, BICBW.

Personally, we have 300/50 Mbps service where I live, and Google was
talking about bringing symmetrical 1Gbps service here, which prompted
at&t to start saying they would do the same. I haven't seen any digging
yet, though.

  #8  
Old March 23rd 17, 04:59 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote:

Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most


And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern
internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take
me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The
majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G(
very pricey METERED connections).


I'm not sure I agree that it's a majority who only have slow DSL or
dial-up available to them. It's probably a majority of the country, but
a majority of the people? That doesn't sound right, BICBW.


I said *county*. I'm only a little over an hour from Richmond VA and
3Mbps is the *best* I can get. And I am lucky!


Personally, we have 300/50 Mbps service where I live, and Google was
talking about bringing symmetrical 1Gbps service here, which prompted
at&t to start saying they would do the same. I haven't seen any digging
yet, though.


Consider yourself lucky, we have no other option and Verizon is not in a
very accommodating mood.



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  #9  
Old March 23rd 17, 07:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
Char Jackson
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:59:59 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote:

Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most

And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern
internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take
me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The
majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G(
very pricey METERED connections).


I'm not sure I agree that it's a majority who only have slow DSL or
dial-up available to them. It's probably a majority of the country, but
a majority of the people? That doesn't sound right, BICBW.


I said *county*. I'm only a little over an hour from Richmond VA and
3Mbps is the *best* I can get. And I am lucky!


Thanks for the correction. I guess I saw what I expected to see,
unfortunately.

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Old March 23rd 17, 10:25 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

On 03/23/2017 10:29 AM, Char Jackson wrote:

[snip]

Personally, we have 300/50 Mbps service where I live, and Google was
talking about bringing symmetrical 1Gbps service here, which prompted
at&t to start saying they would do the same. I haven't seen any digging
yet, though.


Currently, the cable here (Suddenlink) has a maximum of 150Mb/7.5Mb
internet. They say they're planning 1Gb service, but it's not here yet
(and it's going to require a new modem).

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Old March 23rd 17, 11:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

Char Jackson wrote:
On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote:

Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most

And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern
internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take
me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The
majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G(
very pricey METERED connections).


I'm not sure I agree that it's a majority who only have slow DSL or
dial-up available to them. It's probably a majority of the country, but
a majority of the people? That doesn't sound right, BICBW.

Personally, we have 300/50 Mbps service where I live, and Google was
talking about bringing symmetrical 1Gbps service here, which prompted
at&t to start saying they would do the same. I haven't seen any digging
yet, though.


The Google thing will remain "talk", as Google has shut down
its ambitious plan for "world GbE domination".

From Wikipedia:

"In October 2016, all expansion plans were put on hold and some jobs
were cut.[9] Google Fiber will continue to provide service in the
cities where it is already installed."

And other competitors, for some reason, are not interested in wireline
any more. They love the "gold" and "small monthly caps" of 3G/4G wireless
instead.

I don't think the situation is the same everywhere in the world.

So if you got a good connection today, enjoy the hell out of it.

Paul
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Old March 24th 17, 07:58 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

So what does a gig download take you time wise char


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On Thu, 23 Mar 2017 09:30:28 -0400, "Jonathan N. Little"
wrote:

Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at
most.
for me maybe 5 at most


And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern
internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take
me almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The
majority in my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G(
very pricey METERED connections).


I'm not sure I agree that it's a majority who only have slow DSL or
dial-up available to them. It's probably a majority of the country, but
a majority of the people? That doesn't sound right, BICBW.

Personally, we have 300/50 Mbps service where I live, and Google was
talking about bringing symmetrical 1Gbps service here, which prompted
at&t to start saying they would do the same. I haven't seen any digging
yet, though.



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Old March 24th 17, 10:11 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 02:58:45 -0400, "Andy" wrote:

So what does a gig download take you time wise char



That's a straightforward math question, Andy. You can calculate the best
possible scenario, but in reality many sites are unwilling to serve up a
file for download at 300Mbps, so to get there you have to open multiple
concurrent connections.

So best case, how long should a gig take at 300 Megs a second? Show your
work, and watch for bits versus bytes.

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Old March 24th 17, 07:57 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Win 10 giga-update: KB 4013429 vs KB 4015438

Yes those kinda connections and metered data stinks


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"Jonathan N. Little" wrote in message
news
Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at
most.
for me maybe 5 at most


And therein lies the rub. Not everybody as access to a "good modern
internet connection". Here in Third-World-USA that download would take me
almost an hour and I am lucky, I have access to SLOW DSL. The majority in
my county are limited to dial-up or poor 3G or flaky 4G( very pricey
METERED connections).

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Old March 23rd 17, 04:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt,alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 23/03/2017 2:04 PM, Andy wrote:
With a good modern internet connection that should take a few mins at most.
for me maybe 5 at most


There are still poor people and backward countries...

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