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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:16:56 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 14:31:26 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch" wrote: [snip] I remember years ago creating a macro, actually a fairly simple one, in one rather large and complicated C program of mine, that caught and counted calls to alloc and dealloc and reported to me the net count when I closed the program. It didn't tell me why the count wasn't zero, but just having that count info helped *a lot*... From years back ('90s), Microsoft's C compiler put code in programs so that when terminating, address 0 was checked to see if any writes had been done through a null pointer. I expect that was of similar usefulness. Just knowing one has an error can be helpful. [snip] Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko That seems odd. In my experience, writing through a null pointer always crashed my programs. And it was not a rare event for me :-) First, such a check would always pass if the program had no such error and therefore wouldn't crash. Second, the check could never execute if the program had such an error, since it would have already crashed. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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Yousuf Khan wrote:
Okay, currently using Thunderbird for reading newsgroups. It's terribly buggy for this purpose, suffers from all kinds of memory leaks. Thinking of removing the newsgroup functionality from it, and put it somewhere else. What's still out there that is free and is not made by Mozilla? I'm looking for a real reader as opposed to a binary group downloader, of course. I've tried other news readers looking for something better, but have gone back to Forte Agent. I've tried Outlook, Thunderbird, and some other free ones. |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 09:53:01 -0400, TS742
wrote: I've tried other news readers looking for something better, but have gone back to Forte Agent. I've tried Outlook, Thunderbird, and some other free ones. You couldn't have tried Outlook, because Outlook has no newsreading capability. Perhaps you mean Outlook Express, which is a very different program. |
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TS742 wrote in
: Yousuf Khan wrote: Okay, currently using Thunderbird for reading newsgroups. It's terribly buggy for this purpose, suffers from all kinds of memory leaks. Thinking of removing the newsgroup functionality from it, and put it somewhere else. What's still out there that is free and is not made by Mozilla? I'm looking for a real reader as opposed to a binary group downloader, of course. I've tried other news readers looking for something better, but have gone back to Forte Agent. I've tried Outlook, Thunderbird, and some other free ones. Xnews is quick and easy. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:17:51 +0200, "s|b" wrote:
On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:00:15 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: Forte Agent still has a free version. Version 3.3 to be exact. To be downloaded he http://www.forteinc.com/agent/download-all.php You start with a full version and after 30 days of trial Agent will revert to Free Agent. I refuse to believe that there's anybody in this group who can't afford $29, or whatever Agent is today. -- Robin Bignall Herts, England |
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On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 19:29:35 -0700, "Gene E. Bloch"
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 18:16:56 -0700, Gene Wirchenko wrote: [snip] From years back ('90s), Microsoft's C compiler put code in programs so that when terminating, address 0 was checked to see if any writes had been done through a null pointer. I expect that was of similar usefulness. Just knowing one has an error can be helpful. That seems odd. In my experience, writing through a null pointer always crashed my programs. And it was not a rare event for me :-) Well, I managed to and not have it crash. Microsoft's warning was just that, not a panacea. First, such a check would always pass if the program had no such error and therefore wouldn't crash. Second, the check could never execute if the program had such an error, since it would have already crashed. There is no guarantee that it would crash. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko |
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On 10/8/2012 at 12:27:56 AM Yousuf Khan wrote:
Okay, currently using Thunderbird for reading newsgroups. It's terribly buggy for this purpose, suffers from all kinds of memory leaks. Thinking of removing the newsgroup functionality from it, and put it somewhere else. What's still out there that is free and is not made by Mozilla? I'm looking for a real reader as opposed to a binary group downloader, of course. Yousuf Khan If you're not a power user, then try XanaNews. Available at http://xananews.techtips.com.br/rele...ws-1-19-1-320/ It offers many bells and whistles but it probably does not satisfy the needs of power users... -- tb |
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On 08/10/2012 10:39 AM, Ian Jackson wrote:
In message , Yousuf Khan writes On 08/10/2012 6:39 AM, mick wrote: MesNews http://www.mesnews.net/gb/ or Gravity http://mpgravity.sourceforge.net/ Thanks, I'll give those a try. I've given Gravity a quick try, and it seems OK. However, it doesn't do mail, so I decided to concentrate on playing with Thunderbird as a possible alternative mail/news client. Well, I'm not interested in using it for mail, I just want it to do newsgroups. I'm keeping Tbird for mail, and calendar. Yousuf Khan |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:25:35 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:
Well, I'm not interested in using it for mail, I just want it to do newsgroups. I'm keeping Tbird for mail, and calendar. Why are you asking this in Windows and Ubuntu groups? |
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mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:25:35 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote: Well, I'm not interested in using it for mail, I just want it to do newsgroups. I'm keeping Tbird for mail, and calendar. Why are you asking this in Windows and Ubuntu groups? Maybe because everyone in those groups is using a newsreader? -- XS11E, Killing all posts from Google Groups The Usenet Improvement Project: http://twovoyagers.com/improve-usenet.org/ |
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On 10/10/2012 12:13 PM, mechanic wrote:
On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:25:35 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote: Well, I'm not interested in using it for mail, I just want it to do newsgroups. I'm keeping Tbird for mail, and calendar. Why are you asking this in Windows and Ubuntu groups? Because I need to change it for both OS's, and each OS has a different set of alternatives. I've posted it separately for Windows and Ubuntu because I don't want any flaming between the two camps. As you can see, I am trying very hard to keep this an useful thread rather than the usual flamewar they tend to become. Yousuf Khan |
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On Tue, 09 Oct 2012 17:03:27 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 20:17:51 +0200, "s|b" wrote: On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 01:00:15 -0500, Char Jackson wrote: Forte Agent still has a free version. Version 3.3 to be exact. To be downloaded he http://www.forteinc.com/agent/download-all.php You start with a full version and after 30 days of trial Agent will revert to Free Agent. I refuse to believe that there's anybody in this group who can't afford $29, or whatever Agent is today. Maybe the 47%ers Mittens knows. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:10 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:49:34 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: That's why everyone recommends their favorite- there are no saints here :-) I don't exactly recommend my favorite, Here's part of my standard post on the subject: "Some people will tell you to use Windows Live Mail; others will tell you to use Thunderbird; still others may have other recommendations. My advice is to ignore all such recommendations. I personally use Microsoft Outlook for e-mail and Forté Agent for newsgroups, but you should try several and choose what *you* like best, rather than make your decision based on what I, or anyone else, likes best (or even what Microsoft suggests)." Those are the two I use but maybe you can tell me something about Agent. I am having difficulties editing with Agent ver.7. If I edit in the middle of a sentence the rest of the words will be eaten up so I have to start over again. How do I insert words to stop this from happening. I tried the insert key but that pastes whatever is on my clipboard. I also have difficulties sorting out what others post from what I posted and in long threads it gets confusing. I liked Outlook that would use different colors. Thanks for any tips. Al. |
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On Mon, 08 Oct 2012 09:06:10 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote: On Mon, 8 Oct 2012 07:49:34 -0400, "SC Tom" wrote: That's why everyone recommends their favorite- there are no saints here :-) I don't exactly recommend my favorite, Here's part of my standard post on the subject: "Some people will tell you to use Windows Live Mail; others will tell you to use Thunderbird; still others may have other recommendations. My advice is to ignore all such recommendations. I personally use Microsoft Outlook for e-mail and Forté Agent for newsgroups, but you should try several and choose what *you* like best, rather than make your decision based on what I, or anyone else, likes best (or even what Microsoft suggests)." I meant Outlook Express and not Outlook. |
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On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 15:43:51 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote:
On 10/10/2012 12:13 PM, mechanic wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2012 10:25:35 -0400, Yousuf Khan wrote: Well, I'm not interested in using it for mail, I just want it to do newsgroups. I'm keeping Tbird for mail, and calendar. Why are you asking this in Windows and Ubuntu groups? Because I need to change it for both OS's, and each OS has a different set of alternatives. I've posted it separately for Windows and Ubuntu because I don't want any flaming between the two camps. As you can see, I am trying very hard to keep this an useful thread rather than the usual flamewar they tend to become. Fair enough. |
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